Ex-Hawks teammates Smith, Horford ponder what might have been

By Sekou Smith, NBA.com

VIDEO: Al Horford talks about his relationship with former teammate Josh Smith

ATLANTA — As different as they were and are, as players and people, the chemistry was undeniable. And it was instantaneous on the court for both Josh Smith and Al Horford, the former staples in the Atlanta Hawks’ frontcourt for six seasons.

Most folks agree they both played out of their comfort zones — Horford at center and Smith as some sort of hybrid power/small forward — but they did it with and energy and fervor. That duo fueled six straight playoff trips that spanned from Horford’s rookie season in 2007-08 through last season, Smith’s ninth and final campaign with his hometown team. After a first-round loss at the hands of the Indiana Pacers, Smith left town for free-agent riches in Detroit that weren’t available here.

Nearly a full season later, the No. 8-seeded Hawks host the playoff-eliminated Pistons tonight (7:30 ET, League Pass) in a make-up game that was postponed because of a snowstorm. Neither Horford nor Smith are expected to suit up for due to injuries. Still, the questions linger.

Were they friends … or merely co-workers? Was their a rift between them that made working together for say another six years impossible … or was their split precipitated simply by the business of the NBA? And what might have been if the Hawks had decided to build around and play through their undersized frontcourt stars from the start?

“I think we both have only wanted the best for each other in life,” Smith said of his relationship with Horford. “He’s a little different from what I’m accustomed to off the court, in terms of just our personalities and where we come from, but we were always cool on and off the court. We fed off of each other. Even when he made those All-Star teams when I was here, it was like I made it I was so excited for him. It took some of the sting away for me knowing that one of us was representing for our team. And that chemistry was instant because it equaled success. Playing with a guy of his caliber and feeding off of each other each and every night … it was special.”

The answers to those questions, and plenty more, flow freely from both men now that they’ve had some time to reflect on just how hard it is to sustain playoff-level success. The pain and disappointment of seasons filled with injury and unmet expectations have a way of clearing the past’s haze.

“I think we had different personalities, definitely. Josh is probably louder or whatever and I’m probably more laid back, but we got along because we’re both competitors and wanted to win,” Horford said. “He’s very smart. He’s a very smart basketball player. He gets the game and understands the game. I learned so much from him. We had a good relationship. It was definitely good.

“His mom and my mom would have karaoke nights, so I would definitely be over there hanging out with them and things like that. It was good, we definitely had a good relationship. Josh is a good guy. Like you said, there probably wasn’t a lot of emotion going on, but I respect his game and I respect him.”

VIDEO: Josh Smith had big hopes for himself in his first season in Detroit

Smith believes there was more they could have accomplished together, had they been allowed to finish what they started.

“I don’t think we hit a ceiling as teammates,” he said. “I think we didn’t necessarily get the opportunity to maximize our potential together. I think it could have worked. We could have a been a smaller version of the twin-towers down there on the block where we were both getting featured. Who knows what it might have been? You never know … until you have a coach who says these are the guys we’re going to go through every night and we’ll see what happens.”

The Hawks should be headed back to the playoffs, provided they survive the next two weeks. But they’ll have to do so without Horford, who tore his right pectoral muscle on Dec. 26 and has not played since. He tore his left pectoral muscle in 2011 and eventually came back for the playoffs, but he’s already ruled out trying to do so this time around. Paul Millsap, Smith’s replacement in the lineup, was an All-Star berth this season. But he’s never gotten the chance to develop the sort of chemistry with Horford that Smith had.

The Pistons, picked by many to be one of the upstarts in the Eastern Conference this season after adding Smith and Brandon Jennings to a core that included promising young big men Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe, struggled mightily to start 2013-14. They never mounted a comeback in the standings, coach Maurice Cheeks was fired 50 games into the season and now, it’s no secret that longtime Pistons boss Joe Dumars is expected to resign sometime soon.

Smith will shoulder much of the burden in Detroit. As the team’s highest paid player, the player Dumars targeted and landed in free agency, he’s paid to carry that weight. And he’s fine with that. He believes the Pistons can do what the Hawks once did: turn a struggling outfit into a playoff regular.

Talented big men in Drummond and Monroe are good building blocks, but the Pistons must work through whatever issues arise and cultivate the right chemistry, the kind Smith and Horford used to use to torment opposing big men.

“The thing that stood out to me was how they could both rebound and push the ball in transition,” Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer said of the Smith/Hoford combo. “They could find each other and have plays that made them special. But they could find shooters on the perimeter, too. And just to have two big guys that could really rebound and push and make plays in transition, the ballhandling and passing, it made them different and unique.”

It was the differences that clicked with Smith and Horford. But there were plenty of similarities as well. Most notably, they are both fiercely loyal family men, and that included their extended, work families. Their mothers became fast friends while they were teammates, with those karaoke nights, dinners and card-playing parties at the center of many gatherings. Their moms, Paulette Smith and Arelis Reynoso, were perhaps even better friends off the court than their sons.

“My mother is an open-arms type of person, always wanting to cook for somebody and hang out,” Smith said. “When Al’s mom came here she was the same way, so naturally they embraced each other. And it was great to see. You never forget how someone treats your family. And I consider Al and his entire family as an extended part of my own, and I always will.”

VIDEO: Josh Smith’s high-flying ways have continued in Detroit


  1. smh says:

    smith is a bum. detroit get him out of there.

  2. LA's Hawks Fan says:

    then trade Horford for Drummond or Monroe. He should not be diplomatic, he shoud just say “its a business and these things happen, so im actually looking forward to playing with Milsap my new teammate” instead of reminiscing about the past and a player who did more stupid stuff than good on the court.

  3. okc2014 says:

    Al Horford is being diplomatic (he’s a good guy). Sounds like they got along off and on the court. So what? Josh Smith was traded, I’m glad, and the Hawks got a great deal out of Paul Millsap. I’m liking the Hawks, Coach Bud and all the decisions they have made so far. This team had so much potential then Al Horford got hurt and then the succession of the other players getting hurt. Let’s Go Hawks!

  4. Hot mail says:

    Smoove makes the same money in Detroit that he made here in Atlanta. He went where he felt wanted the most. He said the Hawkks never contacted him so it wasn’t on him, it was on them.

  5. Hot mail says:

    I didn’t know their mothers were good friends but Josh did have a high IQ.. Paul Millsap is not an adequate replacement., he’s just playing on a front court that doesn’t have anyone else. Pero and Carroll with Josh, he’d scrore more than Millsap. I actually don’t think they’ve reached their ceilings. WOuld have been nice to see Lucas Nocuiera and J Smoove together with Horford. Problem is the hawks invested 21.9 million on 2 PF in Millsap and GUstavo Ayon and Pero Antic is nowhere near the caliber players of pachulia and Johnson. Ferry drafted a gurard they kept, drafted TWO guards they traded, and traded for one they didn’t want. I personally don’t think this is smart basketball. In fact there is nothing smart about Ferry’s decision since leaving Clevelandor even while he was in Cleveland.

  6. Unkle Daddy says:

    I wanna say I always rooted for Smith when he was Atlanta, but let’s face it if he thought they hadn’t reached there potential he would have stayed. So, he took the money and ran, now he’s on a bad team going nowhere. He’ll probably be there for about another year before they trade him.

  7. tropa says:

    josh smith trying to play as small forward! but when i see him playing he preferred playing as power forward

  8. Josh Smith a smart basketball player? Really Mr Horford. he brought Atlanta down, the ball sticks in his hand and team loses momentum in there play and he jacks up 3s and hes not even a good 3point shooter. His defence is average. he blocks few shots but gets out of position and just not a smart player. Atlanta are happy to have him gone. Detroit should never of got him, trade him to milwaukee for some young talent klay middleton or Hayward from Jazz. Josh would fit in those teams or Philly

  9. Shawn says:

    I’m just a sexy boy

  10. Akeem says:

    Milsap is an awesome replacement for Smith. I wish he could’ve played with Jamal Crawford and JJ. But those two are in better places now.

  11. TL says:

    they should hire Lionel Hollins as their next coach..

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