HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – Oh, Scottie Pippen. You knew this was going to eventually happen as soon as you opened that can of worms.
Pippen, of course, stirred up a hornet’s nest of controversy earlier in the playoffs when he offered his opinion that Michael Jordan was the greatest scorer of all time, but that LeBron James might become the greatest player ever.
First Magic Johnson and then Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and then Oscar Robertson, among others, questioned Pippen’s judgment in making such a pronouncement.
But now the plain-spoken, always-provocative Stan Van Gundy is questioning Pippen’s credentials as a player.
Speaking with the Orlando Sentinel’s Mike Bianchi on his “Open Mike” radio show, the Magic coach pulled no punches:
“I have always wondered, as good as Scottie Pippen was, would he have been considered a star if he hadn’t played with Jordan and had to carry a team on his own,” Van Gundy explained. “We’ll never know, but my point is that sometimes we make the determination after the fact. In other words, after Chicago won championships, we branded Pippen a star.”
Here are a few things for Stan and the rest of us to consider:
Jordan retired before the 1993-94 season, and in his absence, Pippen emerged from M.J.’s shadow. That year, he earned All-Star Game MVP honors and led the Bulls in scoring, assists, blocks and the entire league in steals, averaging 22 points, 8.7 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 2.9 steals, 1.9 three-pointers, and 0.8 blocks per game, while shooting 49.1% from the field and a career-best 32% from the 3-point line. For his efforts, he earned the first of three straight All-NBA First Team nods, and he finished third in the MVP voting. The Bulls finished the season with 55 wins, only two fewer than the year before.
So was Pippen everything that the Hall Fame voters cracked him up to be? Or was he just one more member of M.J.’s chorus like Bill Wennington and Jud Buechler?
Is Stan Van right? What’s the verdict?
Stan’s wrong he was just trying to get a shot in at Pippen for the comments he made earlier.
I am not here to punk pippen becasue he has alot of talent but we all can see now that Lebron will never be in the top 5 of the greats. Two games in a round without point in the fourth quarter is not what makes greatest. I can give you many players that played that would be the man with the rock at the end of the game but I guess when you are second fiddle on the team stuff happen. Lebron has great inside game when he is dunking but his jumper is kind of suspect. He needs to come back and work on his game before he will ever be a elite player.
He’s already an elite player! Two MVP’s mean anything to you!? But his play in the fourth quarter during these finals has been very disappointing.
2 mvps are still team awards. without a team you wouldnt get a mvp. look at nash ihe isnt the greatest player yet hes got 2 of them. lebron is overrated, pippen is getting senile on us. pippen feels entitled to an opinion cuz hes played with jordan and has 6 rings. pippen had those stats when mj left because mj helped mold pippen into a beter player. with jordan, when players came to his team, he made them better playing with them and when they left they were still producing numbers like in chicago. kobe is the same way almost. when they played with kobe surprisingly, alot of players had their career years with bryant, but once they left they became nobody’s again, thats one difference i can say about kobe and mj, mj benefited them both at the time and in the long run, kobe only benefited them at the time, but once they left they disappeared.
but my point is, pippen should keep his comments to himself, cuz we al know what he said was just lpain stupid.
Lebron is really a great player but its now proven that he cant carry a team to win a championship ring and that is the fact !! as you see in all the playoffs he plays !! even in cleaveland you can see that !! he just have a good vertical jump thats all !! and still it bother me why in the world they are comparing Lebron to MJ even though he can’t compete to kobe and thats the fact !! lebron is just great in regular season but in playoff where all team is focus and more determine to win thats when you see the true Lebron he sucks men and thats the fact !! miami heat is a great team and d wade is really carrying them to win !! and that is the fact !! d wade has the heart !! lebron is just a poser claiming a king but really not !! he is not comparable to Kobe more to MJ !! ..
LBJ IS THE BEST PLAYER RIGHT NOW. he probably wont get as good as mj but he is WAY BETTER THAN ANYBODY in the league right now. kobe never has won a championship by himself. The first was with shaq and shaq did everything he won mvp and finals mvp. and the last two was with gasol but since he was thier the longest he got the finals mvp.
LEBRON DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. PERIOD.
are you kinding me jordan would never have won a ring without pipen. and no one ever wins a ring by them self it always take 2 or 3 top players.
pippen is great but would never have developed the wat he did if it werent for playing with MJ.
MJ pushed him and moulded him into a player that excelled and then they challenged each other to be great!
and kevin, im pretty sure DWade won one by himself cos there wasnt a 2nd top player on that heat team and he pretty much won it for them.
as for lebron he is no where near any of the greats! not cos he hasnt won a title but just cos he isnt a winner.
he has joined Wade cos he knows he can win and will be there to save lebrons butt in crunch time.
Wade is better than lebron!
Wade led his team to a ring in his 3rd season
lebron on the other hand led his team to the finals where they were shown up and choked. that cleveland team danced around and were huge show pony’s and then when the spotlight shined brightest they all crumbled including lebron.
greatness is shown in the biggest games
Dirk has it
Wade has it
lebron doesnt
sorry gmoney but wade had shaq with him so he did have a top player at center to help out, but it was mostly wade he did have some help
to yeah ok
yes he did have shaq but was shaqs production enough to call him a top player??
i dont think so. not when you look at the duos/trios that have won previously and after that 06′ win.
Kevin when the Lakers won back to back titles gasol WAS NOT a top 5 or even top 10 player in the league….he was TOP 5 in his position ill give him that, but thats it!
Of course he was all that. Without pippen there is no championships for jordan. After jordan left pippen was alone and still got 55 wins. I mean he deserves the hall of fame no doubt.
People always forget the other things surrounding the Bulls in 93/94. Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong, and Scottie Pippen All had career years. They all made the All Star team and produced their best season individually. They also added Toni Kukoc who had a good rookie year. People also forget that the previous year’s Bulls team had multiple injuries to Pippen and MJ that slowed them down. Notably MJ’s shooting wrist and ankle. The Bulls still had a solid team – but ended up losing to the Knicks in 7 games. Then in 94/95 Pippen lead his Bulls team to a 34-31 (7th place at the time nearly 8th) record before MJ came out of retirement to help them finish off with a 13-4 run and grab the 5th seed.
To say MJ wouldn’t have won any championships without Pippen is just as much speculation as saying Pippen wouldn’t have been a great player without being on the Bulls. Idiotic speculation.
Actually Pippen is one of the best defenders of all time, and without Pippen, MJ would have lost a great defensive presence and the 2nd scoring option, Pippen was a great all around player, and he wouldnt have won without Pippen, no matter how well Grant, Armstrong and everyone else played.
without Pippen, Jordan probably wouldn’t be the consensus Greatest Player of All Time.
Adam,
You are wrong. The 93-94 Bulls had a lot of injuries as well. Both Pip and Horace Grant missed over ten games that year. Cartwright only play half of a season. Add the fact, the Bulls replaced the greatest player of all-time with a player that only average 5 points a game. No one can ever take the place of MJ, but the Bulls could have gotten someone better than Pete Myers. To win 55 games was amazing feat for that roster. And to the fact they got robbed in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals by one of the worst calls in NBA history.
Also, the 94-95 season to me, proved Scottie was the real deal. Scottie lead that team to a 34-31 record even though he was the only starter playing for the Bulls from the previous championship teams. No Jordan, No Grant etc. In my opinion, these two years really showed the world that Scottie Pippen was a great player.
Pippen took a gamble on LBJ so if LBJ won Pippen would look good … SORRY PIPPEN, SHOULD HAVE BET ON DIRK!!!
Now Pippen just made himself look foolish … He was still a great player … but needs to watch his words!
Scottie Pippen is an all time great. Is this really debatable? Am I being punkt?
Perhaps Mike and Scottie were gambling and Mike lost and refuses to pay up, so Scottie dropped the LBJ bomb to hurt his feelings.
What about the inverse? Jordan and the Bulls without Pîppen? I don´t think they would have won those titles. In 1994, same year he won the all-star MVP, the Bulls lost to the Knicks 3-4 in the final conferences. The Knicks lost 3-4 against the Rockets in Finals. This to say how good they were without Jordan. Just one game away from the Finals. Pippen was chosen to be in the Dream Team before the Bulls´second title. I guess Pippen would have had much better stats if he didn´t have Jordan in his team.
What Pippen sais was that Jordan was the best scorer ever. This is not wrong, this actually right. Jordan has the best point average per game. Abdul-Jabbar scored more because he stayed much more years, it doesn´t make him the best “scorer”. Then to say James might become the best player ever, it´s not far form the truth. It´s an opinion. I don´t agree, but there´s nothing stupid in saying this.
Well said Chris.
Pippen definitely deserves the credit as one of the game’s great players.
We all saw how important Pippen was to the Bull’s championships. He might be under MJ’s shadow, but we’re talking about arguably the greatest player of all time. Even if you put in Malone, Bird, Magic, Russel, Shaq, Lebron, Kobe (yes, Kobe) or any great player that would come to mind, they’d still be playing the second player behind MJ. Thats how good MJ was in dominating the game and leading his team to be the best against anyone in the league.
However, Pippen’s skill complemented well with MJ, thus earning him the “sidekick” tag. We should bear in mind that Pippen came in as a rookie to a team that was built around MJ. A guy with great skills would only be fitting to a championship team if he develops himself to be the player MJ needs. If he had landed somewhere else, we can’t tell if he wins a ring (or have the same fate as Barkley, Malone etc.). But we know that he had what it takes to be ranked among the greatest players.
But this isnt about Pippen being MJ’s “Robin”… its like Pippen is the Batman, but MJ is Superman… MJ was just that good, but Pippen in his own right is one of the great players to play the game.
Shaq, Kobe, Bird, and maybe even Magic and Malone would never have coexisted with Jordan though. The team wouldn’t be big enough for the two of them. That was part of Pippen’s greatness. He was willing to let Jordan be the man while still doing all he could to help the Bulls win and being a major contributor. Do you think that Kobe and Jordan could honestly share and take turns like Lebron and D-Wade have been doing this season? I can’t fathom it.
“pippen was alone” … don’t forget tony k.
He is not a member of the chorus he is different, he is the 2nd scorer of the bulls that time, if he was a member of the chorus, i doubt the bulls would win a championship….. wait… they didn’t — they didn’t win anything until he came along…..
NO. they won when horace grant came along, when bj armstrong came along, when phil jackson came along, when scottie ppipen came along. and YES hes part of the chorus.
THE BEST PLAYER EVER IN THE NBA HISTORY:
MICHAEL AND MAGIC MAGIG AND MICHAEL.
AFTER THAT NONE CAN DO SO MUCH….EVEN LEBRON. WELL….HE COULD HAVE WON THIS YEAR BUT HE WAS ROBBERED BY “……….”:…….
Wow I can’t understand any of this
Had to be a Heat fan. lol
You’re dumb
Read what Van Gundy said: “As good as Pippen was. . .” There is NO question Pippen was a very good player. The question Van Gundy is asking is whether Pippen is as great as we have determined him to be. He was named a top 50 player- Is he THAT good? It’s funny y’all are pointing to one season where Pippen had some good numbers, but what did Chicago do in the playoffs that year? What team did Scottie lead to the finals ever, even after MJ’s 2nd retirement? MJ needed Pippen- he needed Horace Grant and Rodman too. MJ was the clear leader of that team. Was Sottie just a great role player?
Chicago won 55 games and nearly made it to the NBA Finals without Jordan that year which is pretty incredible considering what usually happens when superstars leave their team. Just look at Cleveland.
P.S.-Pippen had good stats every year. Look it up.
Have you ever played alongside someone who is far better than you? Try it you just might get better at what your doing.
Can’t believe a pro coach say things like that. Or maybe we can simply consider Van Gandy’s word as one convincing evidence that he is not capable in understanding the game? No wonder Magic performs below expectation in recent years. Boo, Stan.
When Pipen openned his mouth he showed us the kind of character he is! It’s obvious he was jeaslous because of the credit that Jordan got. Talent is naturally born. Too bad a lot of people always think they are better than other.
Who the hell is Stan Van Gundy? I don’ think his comment should be given so much importance. Pippen was a great defender and just because he said Lebron may end up better than Jordan, we cant scrutinize him so much. He was a big reason Chicago Bulls won. I hate how the league falls in love with scorers and just forgets defenders who change games just with defense. Since Van Gundy asked that Question, I would love to ask him back – Would Jordan have won so many championships without Pippen??
HONESTY I HOPE IVERSON SIGNED FOR CHICAGO NEXT YEAR OR OTHER TEAM. I DONT WANT HIM IN THE HEAT. TOO ARROGANT PLAYER.
I cant really comment what Pippen in the Jordan era on the Chicago bulls but I sure respect the work of a man which is the face of basketball even not playing anymore, you ask a two year old boy who Jordan is, and he’ll say he was the best basketball player ever, while Lebron is one of the best nowadays… I gotta give credit to LeBron but I think he is a bit OVERRATED … everybody talks too much about him but he’s doing almost ZERO in the playoffs.
And LeBron knows nothing about respect, mocking a sick player who scored 21pts one game and the next one scored 29 shows how disrespectful he is…comparing him with someone who was always, humble, hardworking and took the game to another level, is simply stupid, foolish and disrespectful to Jordan…
BTW I wish the Cavaliers could complete the curse they sent on LeBron … to have a ring before him…
THE CLUCHT THAT LEBRON DID AGAINST BOSTON AND CHICAGO DOESNT MEAN NOTHING TO YOU?
I´VE HEARD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT DIRK´S GAME IS COMPARABLE WITH JORDAN´S GAME.
WHAT DISRESPECTFUL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
please quote us who that “someone” is and his/her exact words… I believe the highest arguable praise given to Dirk was top 10 all-time… and someone wrote about the flu game but eventually backed down instead listed some notable finals individual performane… you’re making up stories man
stan, scottie pippen is an all-time great…just focus on your team’s preparation for the next season…it is pippen’s opinion, you can’t argue to that…it would’nt have been easy for mj without pippen…
I’m still wondering what was PIP’s motive behind the statement he made. Maybe he was trying to play mind games with Bron for him to feel the weight of his praises… If he was, then it surely is working coz James has continued to fade against the bright lights of the big stage. Maybe now the real question is… “IS LEBRON ALL THAT?” i guess u can ask pip again that question & surely he’ll say… “I JUST PUNKED ALL OF U!”
Pippen is an all-time great. One if not the best defender of all time. He was blessed and cursed for playing along side MJ. Blessed cuz he got the best to win 6 titles ; cursed cuz he had to and will always live under MJ’s shadow in people’s memory. Still, it was unwise of him to drop this statement, anyways he has never been too wise of a guy.
hard work beats talent, i respect the hardworking athletes way more than those talented ones. Pippen worked hard to be one of the greatest player, he deserves to be a hall of famer, there’s no question about that.
Pippen has a point by saying what he said because the truth is we can all see LJ’s talent and physical gift. He has the capability to be the greatest one but that doesn’t mean that he will be. It’s way too early to say it. LJ has not even won anything yet. He’s not even the best player in his team in this series. And even if he becomes a champion, how many would he win? People say that MJ won it with Pippen, Kobe won it with Shaq, and so fort… now if LJ wins it, it would be with Wade and Bosh… or would it be Wade won it with LJ and Bosh.. LJ has a long way to go to take the crown from MJ if he ever will. I think he lost the chance of being the greatest when he took “HIS TALENTS TO SOUTH BEACH” because now he kinda has to start all over again being this is D Wade’s team.
all in all it makes you wonder if Stan’s on crack or fiddles with his precription often. I like him most of the time because he does say it like it is, but Pips would have been a superstar had it not been for playing alongside MJ. However, Pips was smart enough to recognize that he would win multiple rings with MJ and cement hid legacy for accepting less money. I still disagree with his comments though about MJ and LBJ.
Let´s go heat!!!!
Pippen said Jordan was THE GREATEST SCORER …
The TRUTH is JORDAN was and always will be THE GREATEST COMPETITOR!
What set Jordan apart was his competitive drive … that is what took him above all other players.
I have never seen THAT competitive drive since Jordan … in THAT respect Lebron doesn’t EVEN COME CLOSE …
An THAT respect is WHAT MAKES A CHAMPION!!!
Everyone seems to overlook THAT drive in Dirk … NOT ON JORDAN’s LEVEL … BUT HIGHEST RIGHT NOW IN NBA!!!
Some people Including Pippen, who said MJ was the greatest scorer must have forgotten what a great defender Jordan was…
Actually a LOT of people forget about that. They talk about Pippen’s defense (and rightfully so, Pip was an awesome defender) like it was just his presence on the other end of the court.
Well…last time I checked MJ was awarded the defensive player of the year accolade, he was more times than Pippen in the 1st defensive team, he had way more steals than Pippen (actually he is third all time) and the best part… Jordan did all this with 4 seasons less than Pippen.
So for Pippen to say that MJ was the best scorer and downplay MJ presence on the defensive end, is at the very least…wrong.
Nice…Well done.
Indeed…
Don’t forget the no-jordan playoff game where Pippen refused to go into the game for the final play because Phil Jackson drew up a play where Pippen didn’t take the shot. Pippen sat on the bench as Kukoc won the game. That display of a lack of leadership and teamwork is no small thing in my book.
Pippen left his opinion… but the true is that LeBron isn’t still near Pip’s level at all… and I’m Heat’s fan from 1995…
I guess we can see why LBJ would go to Miami. He could not possibly take cleaveland to a championship. Hie needed to build his legacy around other superstar. As we notice without Wade, Maimi probably would have been swept. As LBJ put it I would not mine if I scored just 8 pts and we won the game. If miami even win the series, LBJ has to much to accomplish to be considered MVP; it would be Wade cause he carries that miami team. Big final shots when your team is down is what make you a superstar and that the level of Kobe he’ll never reach and Milestone to reach MJ.
Are you criticizing Lebron for putting the team ahead of himself?
Also, learn how to speak English before you start trying to write it.
No he is just questioning LeBron’s ability to close games, his ability to rise in these finals and justify all his hype and tattoos about being the Cohsen one and the self-proclaimed King.
In other words stuff that MJ had in abundance, stuff that actually make you the greatest.
I side with Stan a lot, and I understand that there is room for skepticism against Pippen, but it’s totally unnecessary. Stan’s words fail to size up on Scottie’s achievements beyond championships. Pippen deserves his spot in the Hall of Fame.
What would Pippen be without Jordan, OR what would Jordan be without Pippen?
It’s simple really. To best address both Scottie’s comments and Stan’s, Lebron James IS Dwayne Wade’s Scottie Pippen. LBJ can’t take a team on his own to glory, and D Wade is definitely a better player.
Scotty was always Tonto to Michaels’ Lone Ranger, but even the old ranger didn’t get anything done on his own. Scotty deserves all the accolades he gets, and arguments about whether or not the Bulls win with him,without him or despite him are frivolous. He was there, and they did win. QED.
It should be MJ then Kobe then you can put Lebron on number 3 or even less haha
We all know of Jordan’s Greatness
Kobe is still writing his greatness
I still just can’t see Lebron on that same level as those two
*note* Kobe and MJ played on 1 team each
Fran, this is the second story that is completly stupid to write in 3 days. First its downgradings Dirks performance. Now trying to stir people up to try and take away Pippens accomplishments? Seriously….. How do you get hired when the only thing you write about is putting great players down. Even if its quoting. You always write negative things. Comparsions that make o sense, demoting a players greatness, taking away from a teams accomplishments. Seriously write something positive for a change. you are bad for this site and this game.
@Damn
Without LBJ Miami wouldn’t have been in the Finals agaisnt Dallas anyway. Lebron big shot get them to beat Chicago and Boston. And Wade ego is killing the heat. Lebron took care of business agaisnt Boston and Chicago. Wade struggled and now against Dallas he start the Miami-is-my-team-and-should-follow-my-lead bulls**t. He killed them in almost every game with stupid choices and turnover, trying to force things just so the soptlight is on him. He did the same thing to get his all star game mvp last year becoming selfish. He should come back to the Team work that get them here to begin with.
Pippen is entitled to his opinion. He knows Jordan more than any of the people who posted here. He has the time and the privilege to know Le Bron. And the key word here is “might”. I don’t think I have to emphasize more about the word “might” Jordan would never be better player as he used to…that’s just how it is. Lebron is still going to his peak/prime and we don’t know what that is. He looks promising and the player in Jordan’s era in general might be as good but not as many as LBJ’s has. The dynamics are different as well. LBJ is not quite there when it comes to greatness and he “might” be there. Oh by the way Stan is entitled to his opinion too. And I understand where he is coming from.
Everyone always refers to his best year 93-94. How was he and the team going in 94-95 before MJ returned? Answer – Not that good. In fact, on the slide and in danger of missing the playoffs. Pippen was very good, even great for a season, but in no way is he an all-time great. He had a habit of petulance toward the whole franchise and disappeared at certain stages of games. I always remember his sit-out in the playoffs because the final play was designed for Kukoc instead of him. Childish and nonsensical from the apparent team leader. Has Pippen even hit a game winner in his entire career? Sure, he did some great things, was an excellent defender and has some eye-popping highlights, but I bet if it was Mitch Richmond (for example) playing along side MJ he’d be in the hall now and we’d all be lauding his epic career.
Scottie was a SUPERSTAR player that happened to play along the GREATEST of all time, which will seem to diminish Scottie a bit! Michael was great coming out of college and before he even played a pro game, Bobby Knight said MJ was the best he ever seen! Now Scottie was little known project out of Central Arkansas no one knew anything about! Scottie didn’t even start his first 2 years he was coming of the bench. Playing with MJ in practice made Scottie the player he became. He had the will and determination to get better. Yes I totally disagree with Van Gundy about Pip but I also disagree with Pip about the Lebron thing! I guess he had it coming to him. Mike was Mike without Scottie but Scottie is not Scottie with out Mike!
Pippen in fairness played great ball during his time but iv always believe given the circumstances involved, he wouldn’t have played at a very, very high level w/o Jordan, seriously, regardless who Jordan has on his team, he would still be great and the 2nd option would be great aswell, lets say you put Gerald Wallace instead of Pippen during that time, Wallace would be the one in the hall of fame now, any player who plays along w/ Mike will have to at least step to the plate of Jordan’s play, so the pressure is to involved that you as a player, knowing you have a teammate as great as Mike, has to at least match his intensity, Pippen wouldn’t have won another championship if Mike didn’t decide to come back, that i guarantee, Mike makes his teammates better, putting Jordan to any team w/ 1 all-star at his prime will be instant success, when Jordan retired, Pippen still at his prime had chances to win a championship w/ Houston along w/ Charles and Hekeem and Portland w/ all its all-stars but was denied.. Pippen was great but his at his best along w/ MJ, that is why i consider Jordan to be the greatest to play the game.. even most hall of famers agree..
MJ without Pip, Pip without MJ… Please stop it guys! Pip did play with MJ, MJ did play with pip! They won six rings together! You can’t talk about the most successfull duo ever with “if”! Van Gundy should be taking some rest. Out on the first round by Atlanta and he speaks this way about Scottie Pippen??? Has in his roster the Defensive player for three straight years but may i suggest him to look back at Pip in his prime and realize what a real defender is!!! Basket-ball isn’t just about stats! It’s also about attitude on the court! The only talent that counts that much in basket ball is to figure out how you can take the most part of your skills to help your team be as efficient as possible. And that makes Scottie Pippen one of the greatest. Like MJ you don’t see players like him on the basketball court nowadays. They didn’t win just one championship together, they won six acheaving two threepeats against the best generation of players ever!!! Do you all picture what it takes to relise such a magnificient accomplishment??? Winners. Champions with a capital C! They won together. They made their way to the Hall Of Fame together! Period!
well, not to take anything from MJ’s legacy, but the 90′s were really a lame generation of talent
Heat needs a good pointguard like CP3 or Nash who can deliver the ball in last minute.Becoz they collapse when Dallas on the run. They shoot outside instead of driving the basket. Lbj will be great but not this time. he prove that every game. im not a big fan of LBJ but the way i saw him play he’s too good and will be better every year.
S.Pippen w/out a question is a HOF but stan Van Gundy? OH!!! if a star player will choke in the important game he is called Lebron,but if a coach choke he is STAN VAN GUNDY.bwahhhhh….
Pippen was a good player, but lost my respect after turning out to be one of those people who fail to think before they speak. his comments were premature.
Let´s go Heat this Sunday. We have to win. Mavericks gonna move the ball until find the paint, They always play picks and rolls. Let them approach you then get into the aggessiviness. Only way to stop them is guard Nowitzki all the time but giving him space, guarding him with perimeter eye. Then exchange roles on defense but always with the focus on Dirk.
-Complain with effort when some call is not adequate.
-Jason Kidd plays hard but is behind them like a lyon waiting for his shot.
-Terry only plays well if their tteamates play well too.
So …the chances still on…..is extended game in my humble opinion. Come on Heat put all on next game. We can….
B4 i comment on Stan’s comments, I think every1 should realize this one thing about team sports in general, there’ll never be a 1 man team that builds his own dynasty. Jordan needed Pippen as much as Shaq needed Pippen, Magic needed Kareem, Russell needed Cousy and so on.You’ll never find a dynasty w/jus one great player, there’ll always be multiple..As far as Pippen goes, I think he had Superstar potential but to call him a superstar is debatable. We never got to see Pippen lead the bulls consecutively through the playoffs w/out Jordan but he did prove he could carry the team the year Jordan was out..He’s made several all star games, won all star MVP and even finished in top 5 Season MVP voting in 2 seasons. (93-94,95-96) Scottie had tremendous defense and played both sides of the court well..Not on Jordan’s level ofcourse but he was still an all star type player in his heyday
shaq needed pippen? maybe you are saying shaq needed kobe?
yea I meant Kobe lol
Yeah, that’s exactly the way it is and always will. No one man team will ever win the title on there own. Look at Barkley, and Reggie Miller, and even Iverson, they made it to finals but did they win? No, because they needed that extra person by there side. Good comment bro.
everyone should just wait for the finals to be over before commenting…
look at terry with that tatoo.. everyone will mock him for that..
look at the heat celebrating in the pre season as if theyd already won..
look at pippen…
u know what i mean..
each one has their stakes on this game so pls let the last game end be it game 6 or 7 before yall talk..
50 Greatest of All Time. ‘Nuff Sed!
Pippen just said that to protect chicago bulls saying lebron is so good no one can stop him.. neglecting the fact that the bulls have weak line up…
jordan can’t win championships without pippen… his airness said so himself during his hall of fame speech… pippen of course is a legitimate star with or without jordan…. the referees were the one who decided the series outcome of the 93-94 knicks vs bulls eastern finals series. if not for bum calls, pippen and the bulls shouldve been in the finals vs hakeem and the rockets…
yup, pippen is that great, stan!
It’s all Chicago team and not Pippen who helped Jordan. We would never said anything about Pippen if Jordan was not beside him. There were so many good players in N.B.A., much better of course than Pippen at this time. In Chicago team what about Kukoc (24 points in the final ?) steve kerr, Rodman, Longley.
Pippen was a good player of this team, but I remember how bad he was sometimes.
i agree with stan if scottie pippen was the first option of a different team he wouldnt have been considered an nba great. he wouldve been an hall a famer yes but a 50 great NO
Scottie Pippen carried the Bulls to the 2nd playoff series when MJ retired. Scottie Pippen is a star, period. What you read is ‘Grand Stand’ meaning chatter AKA BS.
Not to mention Pippen was one of the greatest defenders of all-time, a unique player who could guard multiple players in the flow of a game…as for LeBron, he’s a great player but I haven’t heard too many “experts” focus on one possible reason he’s having difficulty scoring in this series (especially in the 4th quarter): His jump-shot!
His jump-shot has no doubt improved over the years but in my opinion it’s still a liability for him and makes him more prone to want to drive to the basket to score, something that’s much easier for him to do during the regular season but not with the half-court defense he now faces in the playoffs. In essence, now Lebron has more difficulty driving to the basket against Dallas and so is forced to shoot jumpers, many of which are clanging off of the rim…
Stan Van gundy…The master of panic…Another pathetic idea…Pippen was a true legend…and beasketball history will write pippens name, and not yours…
Pippen was certainly the bravest of the lot, but then the whole of the nation’s media were swooning over James at the time. And so was everyone else. Sure it looked odd at the time, perhaps even controversial, but had he have said it today it would’ve been received as if he and Jordan finally had it out after a few drinks and shuffling the cards a little too slowly.
It’s hard to imagine it now, but this series comes off the back over one of the most hyped and most watched NBA seasons ever. There is nowhere to hide in these bright lights. People may think now “this is just two weeks of LeBron’s career that he’ll look back on as a blight and barely anyone else will remember.” Oh they’ll remember alright, and in a decade or so when LeBron’s jersey hangs from a rafter somewhere and we all debate his legacy, this will be a fortnight that will come up on notepads bolded, underlined and circled. The NBA is defined by its winners and heroic performances from them. It’s about clutch plays in key moments, especially against the flow of the game. The fact that he’s being shown up by a former MVP in clutch situations is just a twist of the knife.
Remember that Michael did not won championships when Pippen was not at his side.. same to pippen too.. stan has no right to tell that to Pippen for he has proven it when michael retired and he led most of the stats in his team and led the bulls to the playoffs..but Pippen and Michael realized that they both need each other to get championships…and they got 3.. damn stan, he doesnt even have nba championships…how can he say that.
Pippen was awesome but I see where Van Gundy’s coming from. A lot of awesome players down the years lead their team and have ridiculous stats but get no respect because they never win championships. Take Clyde Drexler for example. Drexler was awesome in his prime, coming second to Jordan in MVP voting in 1991-92 and leading the Blazers to two finals appearances. He didn’t win until he moved to Houston (but theres no doubting that Hakeem was the man who lead them to the championship). Drexler doesn’t get as much respect as a great player as Pippen, but Pippen played on the biggest stage and one of the most popular and memorable NBA teams in history. This just goes to show that if great players don’t win, they don’t get as much respect as great players. I think this is what Van Gundy is trying to say, because there have been players in history that were awesome but never got to that championship-level good.
I think WADE IS FAR BETTER THAN JAMES. WADE IS THE MAIN MAN FOR HEAT NOW. COMPARING JAMES VS JORDAN DURING CHAMPIONSHIP. I THINK IT WOULD BE 95%FOR JORDAN AND 5%FOR JAMES. PIPPEN THOUGHTS ABOUT JAMES IS VERY FUNNY.
Pippen was an athlete but without MJ he wouldn’t have been as good. if u play with a great, u learn from them (if u have half a brain). Without Jordans intensity and work ethic rubbing off on him, Pippen would have only been a decent player. MJ groomed him and helped him, but only after Pippen decided he wanted it almost as bad as MJ did…… they needed each other, Pippen needed a motivation and work ethic role model, Jordan needed a running mate. WIN, WIN SITUATION.
that season without MJ should silence all the critics, all star mvp, a 55 win season 2 fewer than the previous season with MJ and one horrible call by the referee away from a return to the NBA finals. I’d say Pippen has earned his place.
Lol pip can’t even take Kobe will be one of the greatest players.that’s how biased he is.
it depends on the person criteria . thats pippens criteria so be it.. well LBJ really had a good talent and i think better than MJ. but MJ used his talent wisely thats why he won 6 championship ring. but if you ask me whos the greatest player of all time for me.. i have also different view.. for me its allen iverson, bcoz with his size he work hard on the court.battled not just every opponent but also his injuries…
no scottie = no rings for mj.
I thought it was a two way street. If Pippen didn’t show up, I doubt MJ would have been able to bring the team together to win it all. That, and Phil replacing Doug Collins at the right time and Horace Grant in the center position, he’s just as responsible as Scotty for getting the Bulls to the promised land. When Grant left, they got Rodman and the team just got better. But at the same time, it was important to have Mike as the emotional leader. These guys played well while Jordan was playing baseball and lost a tough series to the Knicks, but as good as Pippen was, MJ was irreplaceable. He was the dynamite stick, without the stick, they wouldn’t be a explosion. But Pippen, Grant, Phil, Rodman, Toni Kukoc, BJ Armstrong, John Paxson, Steve Kerr, Bill Cartwright, Luc Longley were the laymen setting up the dynamite for it to explode. They were just as important. The problem in Miami is that they have the laymen, that just can’t decide which one, if it’s Wade or LeBron, should be the dynamite.
SP33 no Q his a hall of famer. LBJ is the greatest shape NBA player but not the greatest player at all,
no way.
Lebron is good. He is not the best player on his own team.
dwayne wade is MJ, lebron james is pippen
We’ll never see another one like Pippen. Can guard anybody, from point to center. A killer on offense too. He and MJ were pitbulls that’s why nobody could beat them. But neither one won a championship without the other. In my book, MJ and Pip were equals. MJ just got the bigger pot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9vFHYVXtRk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1YchiFv-5M
Good luck to Lebron and Co in finding their Pippen.
So what if Scottie made one (or more) inaccurate reading of a player’s talent? MJ, former president of Wizards basketball operations, was blind enough to choose Kawme Brown as No.1 draft pick when it MATTERED. Do you see people denying MJ’s legacy as a basketball player as a result of that? No. Scottie picking on James didn’t cost him or anyone more than a dime. OK, it did cost Stan Van Gundy’s some time but that’s about it.
Let it go, Scottie was great as a player.
james is good player the only thing that i can fir this player when they got and advntage or lead even not good lead of points they will relax there defnce and will not get the open man they play us a 1 man team that the kind of player james wade kobe they all same player kobe very lucky bcoz of gasol unlike this two guys in heat not enough help in inside game try to give 1 good center to this guys even 10 champs ring they will get…
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I think Lebron never said that he is on of the best. The media create all this. I think Pippen said something obvious. Than in terms of talent and presence Lebron is one of the best ever. I dont even understand why he needs a ring to be considered one of the best. Basketball is a team sport so u cant really judge someone by the team achievements. All of them are amazing. Pippen, Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Dirk, and many others. You have to also be lucky in this life.
Pele won 3 world cups and Maradona 1. Why then people believe Maradona is the best?
Stan, you are wrong. I grew up a Knick fan and I agree that Pippen was an elite player. Even without Jordan.
Stan, you never took a team to a NBA championship so at the end of the day, what do you know about winners and losers?
The 94-95 season actually tells that the rest of the Bull’s team is so good that if Jordan were playing not Pippen, the Bulls would still had won the Championship.
WOW.. HAVE WE ALL FORGOTTEN THAT THE BOSTON AND BULLS SERIES WERE WON BY KING JAMES. ALL I’M SAYING IS THAT DURING THE FIRST 3 QUARTERS LEBRON IS RUNNING AROUND WITH TERRY TO SLOW HIM DOWN, IN ORDER TO GET THE GAME TO BE THAT CLOSE IN THE 4TH. I DON’T KNOW TOO MANY NBA PLAYERS WHO CAN PLAY DEFENSE ON YOUR TOP GUY AND DROP A TRIPLE DOUBLE…..THE KING LIVES ON ! AND HE LIVES IN SOUTH BEACH
AND AS FOR VAN GUNDY, WHERE DID HE PLAY AT ? HOW MANY RINGS DOES HE HAVE, NOW CHECK THOSE CREDITIALS. HE WILL BE LUCKY IF MAGIC BRING HIM BACK TO COACH. A NON TALENTED COACH TELLING A GUY LIKE DWIGHT WHAT TO DO !!!!!!FIREVANGUNDY.COM
people can’t seem to learn to keep their mouths shut.
pippen was great but this just makes him sound bitter and jealous. pippen lost a ton of $ on bad investments, if jordan gave him a couple of million he never would’ve made this statement. he’d be licking jordan’s balls like there’s no tomorrow
Pippen did no think when he said what he said… Himself is better than lebron, the only difference is that lebron got more power… But when it comes to skills wise, he is a better player all around xxx.
James and Wade would get CHEWED UP AND SPIT OUT in Jordan’s era.
The get so many FLOP calls and ticky tack fouls for FT’s …
If they tried that in Jordan’s day they’d be LAUGHED OFF THE COURT!!!
SOMEONE SHOW ME JUST ONE VIDEO OF JORDAN FLOPPING IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER!!! It doesn’t EXIST!!!
He ACTUALLY HAD SOME DIGNITY!!!
We HAVE SEEN A HIGHLIGHT REEL OF FLOPS by James and Wade JUST IN THIS POST SEASON!!!
This is a problem for the league that they need to fix … but just another reason THEY WILL NEVER COMPARE TO JORDAN!!!
People make me laugh at how ignorant and simple they are. I grew up in Chi city watching and idolizing MJ and Pippen. MJ is and always will be the greatest all around basketball player in the history of the game. Period. As good as LBJ is, he, nor Kobe, nor anyone in the future can be compared to MJ, but Pippen was a great, great player. Pippen’s numbers weren’t what they should have been because he had MJ on his team. It’s just like Kobe and Shaq. Kobe’s numbers doubled in every way when Shaq left to Miami. Do your research. Even MJ said Pippen unselfishly gave up his numbers to let MJ do his thing.
Point is, MJ is the greatest, but Pippen was the reason they won 6 championships. Period.
jordan, jordan, jordan—yes, he was incredible on so many occasions—you can name all stats and titles etc–but please dont forget: he was part of a team, and all the other members, kukoc, paxson, wennington, cartwright, buechler and and and, they all contributed (maybe not in points, steals etc, but with doing what jackson told them to do) to what lead finally to championships
As great as MJ was and probably will be, he still wouldn’t have been able to win all the titles without Pippen. But it wasn’t just Pippen, he had Rodman, Kukoc. But I think Lebron James shouldn’t even be compared to MJ. Until he gets a ring for himself, he’s just a high scorer. Now I’m not a Laker Fan at all, but Kobe is as close as it gets to ALMOST being as good as MJ. But my point is that yeah MJ was a outstanding scorer, and yeah he was MVP, but none of that would have happened if it wasn’t for Scottie Pippen at his side. On a positive note, neither of the two would have won those Six Titles if it wasn’t for each other.
Pippen was excellent, deservedly a top 50 player, probably top 30. One of the best perimeter defenders the league has seen.
the only reason some of u think that 90s does not have as many stars as 2000s….was becuz MJ was the GOAT…
everyone else dwindles in comparison…
look..the bottom line is…MJ the GOAT..knows he can beat lebron james in his prime…
he just knows it as a fact….
enough said…
Scottie Pipen made a very intelligent remark if you look at Lebron James totlal game and age he’s is emerging as a possible greatest player of all time. But in the real world of professional sports championships matter, alot of people did and still are dogging James for joining the Heat but if he would have stayed he would have been like Barkley, Stockton, Pat Ewing he dominated but didnt win a championship these players were almost impossible to stop like James is now, No one can guard him because of his freakish skill set and he s defense with defending an recounding as well as a fierce and clutch shot blocker to me and alot of eyes past Jordan at the same age when Lebron started he’s better and still hasnt hit his prime yet so and his future wont be over anytime soon.
Scottie Pipen made a very intelligent remark if you look at Lebron James totlal game and age he’s is emerging as a possible greatest player of all time. But in the real world of professional sports championships matter, alot of people did and still are dogging James for joining the Heat but if he would have stayed he would have been like Barkley, Stockton, Pat Ewing he dominated but didnt win a championship these players were almost impossible to stop like James is now, No one can guard him because of his freakish skill set and he s defense with defending an recounding as well as a fierce and clutch shot blocker to me and alot of eyes past Jordan at the same age when Lebron started he’s better and still hasnt hit his prime yet so and his future wont be over anytime soon.
Dumbest thing ever to say Pippen wasn’t a Star. !!!!
I’ve watched Pippen played and yes he’s a hall of famer. Stan Van Gundy was a knicks’ staff back in the days and they hated the Bulls so much.
Pippen one of the 50 greatist players of all time. He couln’t come close to connie hawkins, he couldn;t do anything better than the hawk. Shame on the players that voed for this, i saw him play every game he ever played in Phoenix, and beleive me there was nobody like the HAWK!!!
nobody can win by themself…….except dirk
Jordan was the best scorer and best player because he had tremendous will to win. Lebron may become best scorer but not the best player because he like light of glory and kingship which he got without making great efforts.
So, Pippen doesn’t right. If throughout years Lebron’s attitude will change he could concur MJ and then Pippen will be right.
Pippen was wrong, but as any of us he is entitled to have an opinion – lets all agree LBJ played significantly better in the Chicago series and that effectively affected Pippen’s judgement. Now, what is SVG talking about? is he not a Basketball fan or what? don’t you think that he would trade all but one player on his current team to get Pippen AFTER his prime (when he played for the Blazers)? If anyone should be questioned is SVG for even getting involved in this discussion! I have no problem with Basketball greats publicly talking about this, but SVG? please… IdV
I am old enough to have had the pleasure of seeing Jordan, Kobe and Lebron throughout their whole career’s. I consider myself an educated basketball fan. In my opinion their is no debate, no question, Jordan was clearly the best. Kobe is clearly better than Lebron. Sorry James, lets talk about it again in 10 years…… Hell Wade is better than Lebron!
I also saw Pippen play a lot and from what I remember, He always excelled when Jordan wasn’t in the line-up.
M.J. was defined as the greatest player… not just because of how he played but how he mold his team mates to be what they are now… he is a man who can make use and help his mates bring their potential to a higher degree and stay at it… meaning pippen never became who he is with out the special skill of M.J. to bring out the best in everyone…M.J. is the stepping stone of pippen to greatness… it was and it ever will be….. the misjudgement / comment by pippen made many people doubts his ability and his greatness as a player…. good job coach stan…making the question about pippens greatness…
Great comment.Agree.
coach stan didnt say anything about pippen not being great….. he said is ppipen ol dat because of his comment a comment he shouldnt have sed
I thought Stan was the smart brother?
POINTE BLANK VANGUNDY IS A MORON WHO CAN NOT COACH EVEN IF HE HAD THE DREAM TEAM AS HIS STARTING SQUAD HE IS HORRABLE COACH WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHEN TO SWITCH HIS LINE UP AT CRITICAL MOMENTS THATS WHY HE GOT RAN OUT OF MIAMI … MJ IS THE GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIMES FOR NOW NO QUESTION !! BUT MJ AND PIPPEN MADE EACH OTHER BETTER WITHOUT EACH OTHER THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE WON ALL THOSE CHAMPIONSHIPS .THATS A FACT WHEN MJ WAS AT NORTH CAROLINA HE WAS NOT THE GREATEST PLAYER ON THE FLOOR WHEN HE GOT TO CHICAGO HE DID”NT WHEN ANYTHING BY HIMSELF ..EVELIKE N AFTER JORDAN RETIIRED PIPPEN WAS STILL DOING HIS THING NO DIFFRENTLY AS IF JORDAN WAS STILL THERE PLAYING .TOOK BULLS TO FINALS … NOW I DO RECAL WHEN PIPPEN HELD OUT DO TO CONTRACT ISSUES JORDAN AND BULLS WENT LIKE 1-12 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO IT GOES BOTH WAYS JORDAN WITH OUT PIPPEN JORDAN MAY NOT BE THE GREAT PLAYER HE WAS WITH OUT PIPPEN THOSE WERE YOUR TWO CENTER PIECES THE OTHERS WERENT THAT MUCH OF A FACTOR HORACE GRANT,CARTWRIGHT,KERR,PAXSON,RODMAN THOSE WERE ALL INTERCHANGABLE PIECES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN FILLED BY ANYBODY
1992 Bulls led by Jordan, Pippen, Grant, Armstrong, Paxson, Cartwright, Perdue and King)
2011 Heat led by wade , james , bosh, haslem,bibby, mike miller , chambers ,big z edge miami heat to the dirks revenge , the bulls would not eat up the heat or kill them it would be a great series that would go to game 7 advantage heat jordan vs wade even match up style of play mirrors each other pippen vs james advantage james better all around player ,grant vs bosh advantage bosh better defender rebounder shooter all aound better player armstrong vs bibby even match up not to much to discuss paxson vs chalmers advantage chalmers better defender cant score if u cant shoot ..cartwright vs haslem advantage haslem allround better player workhorse scrapper on miami squad ..perdue vs himself nothing realy to discuss .. advantage miami over all !!!!!! realy only upside chicago has over miami is jordan but miami could double team him to shut down his game where he woud not be as effective ……. chicago was a dynasty of there era its hard to say who would beat who cause you never no there never gowna play each other but over all i would give the nod to miami better squad bench,over all better
First of all … you missed my point … I wasn’t comparing 92 Bulls to 2011 Heat.
I can’t say I agree … but IMO 2011 Mavs are better than 2011 Heat.
Not as good INDIVIDUALLY as ATHLETES … but better TEAM GAME, TEAM CHEMISTRY, BBALL IQ and COACHING.
This is, and will be clear SUNDAY MAVS IN 6!
BASKETBALL is a TEAM game,one player can do nothing without the contribution of the other team members to win games. I think they call it TEAMWORK,maybe because they play/work as a team! One player just play the game better than the other,but the player needs the support of the TEAM!
scottie misjudged the the whole greatest player stuff… there is no way lebron will be that great if he doesnt know about winning… he should go to charlie sheen to learn a thing or two about winning….lols
Slob Van Gundy is an idiot!
Check his stats fat boy!
Well my question is what has Stan Van Gundy,brought to basketball humanity.
Goodness, it was an opinion. The problem is, MJ is like a god to a lot of fans and anyone who thinks otherwise is nuts. Yes, MJ is the greatest of all time! No one will ever come close to him! Happy now? Geez, i’m not even a Lebon fan but Pippen is one of the all time greats. He was just airing out an opinion. Some people need to relax.
LBJ : nobody won rings by themselves , MJ won it with Pippen, Kobe had Pau and earlier Shaq had Kobe
LeBron will have no excuse for failing because he has the 2nd best player in the league on his side and also a premier power forward ; no all time great chokes this many times in Finals 4th quarters; if not for wade, Dallas already won the title
I got to give Scottie Pippen his props. I think at one point he was one of the top five players in the NBA. Jordan never won with out Pippen either. As for Lebron. He is definately an amazing player. The only major knock on him is he has never won a championship, and he is known to disapear when a series is on the line. If it was just about Championships then Robert Horry was a better player than Jordan. But we all know its not. If Lebron steps up and the Heat win the championship then we can talk about how great Lebron is in the grand scheme of things. If the Heat lose . Than we know Lebron is not even close to Jordan’s greatness. If Jordan and Kobe were both 26 and on the same team. I gaurantee they would win.
Labron is a great player, just like other players in the NBA. Is he the greatest? No way. The great ones want and need the ball cause they want to win. Plays better when in important games. James, he is a highlight reel against no bodies, How many points has he scored against Dallas in the 4th quarter? IF it is not going his way it is the ref’s fault, not his. His reputation with NBA players is not what everyone thinks. Nike had to make deals quite a few of the players on the Olympic team for them to accept him on the team. This was on the Dan Patrick Sports talk and on other sites. He always disappears at the most important times. Jordan, Magic, Bird, even Dirk, and many others, would you ever see them disappear in the 4th quarter in many games, not just this year but last year too. Hmmmm, does this even put him in with the great players?
I would add that because neither Pippen nor Jordan had to go through their developmental stages alone as teenager or early twenties they had a lot more room for growth as a personalities. Would MJ had enough time to become the player he was without occasionaly getting some mental rest because they didn’t have to carry the whole team alone. Players like Lebron, Wade or Dirk never really had that luxury. Neither did he have the same media attention. In terms of mental development, these small pockets of rest are worth a lot.
I’m not saying that Lebron didn’t bring the media attention upon himself. But once again, these are circumstances that could keep Lebron from being as good as MJ. And what about the coach? MJ coach was better than MIke Brown in my eyes even if they have the same job now.
Pippen deserves the hall of fame but his comments are silly. mj was and is the greatest player of all time. he did it on both ends of the floor he hit game winning shots he is the best clutch player of all time no one comes close. lebron is struggling in the fourth because he lacks the killer instinct that jordan has. kobe cant be considered a great clutch player because his efficciency is way off compared to jordans kobe is average in crunch time. kobe still in todays nba is the best player on the court because he has the killer instinct. kobe played hurt this year and struggled he will be back next year. i see the same killer instinct in d rose and he is only 22 few players have this ability and urge to get the job done at the end of games whether they have success or not
Stan is ridiculous,he hearts propaganda,and especially attention.True,true,Scottie’s statements are also ridiculous,but that does NOT WHATSOEVER reduce his value as an amazing player.ta ta stan,gtfo.
The whole pippen and jordan thing doesnt really matter, it is what it is. But James hasnt showed what it takes to be the greatest. Great players take control in the end of the game and make the clutch shots. Jordan or kobe could of had 2 points the whole game but still be great cuz they hit every big shot like jordan did to the jazz in game 5 or 6 with the huge 3 pointer. Lebron is a lot bigger and flashier but no jordan or kobe or even wade. I think Lebron is more a great all around player like Magic but not a dominate force or scorer like jordan or kobe. SO they should compare him to magic and not jordan. And wade should be compared to jordan, look at wades numbers in all and in clutch shots and in the finals he always steps it up and leads his team. He averaged 40 points in the finals, who is the only other player to ever do that, JORDAN, not lebron or anyone else. Goto nba.com and compare wade stats with lebrons. Wade wins. James overrated Wade underrated.
Man…common…you’re questioning Pippen as a player? The name itself means something in basketball then, now, and from now on. Would you say the same because Magic had Kareem?
Anyway, again, he placed his bet. It’s not too bad of a bet. Only time will tell if he’s right about Lebron…although after today, it’s not looking so good for the chosen one…
Poor Lebron.. he has to be the topic, with pippen as the convicted criminal for commenting… but the obvious fact is their is nobody yet comparrable to MR. MICHAEL JORDAN.
THERE IS NO BETTER WAY FOR SOMEONE TO EXPOSE HIMSELF AS A FOOL WHO NEVER SAW JORDAN PLAY THAN TO CLAIM JORDAN WOULD NOT HAVE WON ANYTHING WITHOUT PIPPEN. LEBRON AND KOBE FANS WHO HATE THE FACT THAT JORDAN STILL REIGNS SUPREME AND USE PIPPEN TO UNDERMINE HIM, HEAR THIS: PIPPEN WAS SOOOO RELIABLE, EVEN JACKSON DID NOT TRUST HIM TO TAKE A LAST SECOND SHOT IN THE PLAYOFFS (1994). HE INSTEAD GAVE IT KUKOC. AM I TO BELIEVE THAT JORDAN WOULD HAVE THREE LESS CHAMPIONSHIPS WERE IT NOT FOR DENNIS RODMAN. PLEASE, FOOLS, GO TO BASKETBALL REHAB NOW.
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