Morning shootaround — Oct. 10


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NEWS OF THE MORNING

Bosh, Chalmers offer Cavs some warnings about playing alongside LeBron | Carter-Williams could miss start of season | Rivers using visualization techniques with Clips | Beasley headed to China

No. 1: Heat’s Bosh, Chalmers reflect on playing alongside LeBron — The Miami Heat are in Rio De Janiero, Brazil, preparing for their preseason game against the Cleveland Cavaliers tomorrow. That will mark the first time the Heat will face their since-departed (to Cleveland) superstar, LeBron James. Cavs point guard Kyrie Irving is expected to miss the game with an ankle injury and in the lead-up to the game, Heat point guard Mario Chalmers and power forward Chris Bosh have piped up about what it was like playing with James. Chalmers had some cautionary words for Irving, writes Chris Hayes of The Plain-Dealer, and Bosh had similar ones for Cleveland’s power forward, Kevin Love, writes Ethan Skolnick of Bleacher Report.

Here’s what Chalmers had to say about being a point guard playing next to James:

Cavaliers forward LeBron James was hard on Chalmers in their four years together in Miami. As the floor general, Chalmers made his share of boneheaded blunders and James, being the perfectionist that he is, would repetitively scold Chalmers publicly during games.

Sometimes Chalmers would argue back, trying to make his point. However, you’re not winning that battle against the best player in the world. It wasn’t aimed at being malicious. He just wanted Chalmers to succeed at his job.

James was hard on his former point guard because he’s a point guard at heart and understands how the position should be played.

Nevertheless, Chalmers seems relieved that it’s now Kyrie Irving‘s problem.

“LeBron is a dominant player so if he feels like something is not going his way, he’s going to say something about it,” Chalmers told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “For Kyrie, he’s going to have to adjust to that and LeBron is going to have to adjust to Kyrie. It’s going to be a different factor for Kyrie.”

Chalmers refused to elaborate on what it was like when a furious James was approaching and you knew he wasn’t coming to give a hug.

“Man, that process is over and done with it,” Chalmers said. “It’s a fresh start, fresh team, new year.”

He then took it a step further and claimed to have amnesia.

“I don’t even remember, bro,” he said. “Last year is in the past. This is a new year. New me. I’m not thinking about it.”

And here’s Bosh talking about being a power forward alongside LeBron:

Specifically, is it more difficult to go from a first option to a second or third choice—as Love must do now—or from a second or third option to a first?

On these topics, Bosh was uniquely qualified to answer, having gone from first option in Toronto to third choice for four years in Miami to, now, first option in Miami.

“Yeah, it’s a lot more difficult taking a step back, because you’re used to doing something a certain way and getting looks a certain way,” Bosh told Bleacher Report recently. “And then it’s like, well, no, for the benefit of the team, you have to get it here.

“So even if you do like the left block, the volume of the left block is going to be different. Now you have to make those moves count. So with me, it was like a chess game. I’m doing this move and thinking about the next move and trying to stay five moves ahead. You’re not getting it as much. If you got one or two a game, it’s a lot different.”

You don’t get your pick of the buffet.

“Exactly,” Bosh said. “You just get your entree and that’s it. It’s like, wait a minute, I need my appetizer and my dessert and my drink, what are you doing? And my bread basket. What is going on? I’m hungry! It’s a lot different. But if you can get through it, good things can happen. But it never gets easy. Even up until my last year of doing it, it never gets easier.”

Love, at age 25, averaged 26.1 points and 12.5 rebounds his final season in Minnesota. Bosh, at age 25, averaged 24.0 points and 10.8 his final season in Toronto. His averages declined in the four years since, as he reached greater heights (four NBA Finals, two championships) playing with James.

“It’s going to be very difficult for him,” Bosh said of Love’s new task. “Even if I was in his corner and I was able to tell him what to expect and what to do, it still doesn’t make any difference. You still have to go through things, you still have to figure out things on your own. It’s extremely difficult and extremely frustrating. He’s going to have to deal with that.”

And, lastly, Bosh told ESPN.com’s Brian Windhorst that he has ‘no hard feelings’ about James’ departure:

Bosh surprised some when he said he hadn’t spoken with James since he left to sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers in July. But he doesn’t understand the surprise.

“There’s no hard feelings or anything,” Bosh said after the Miami Heat practiced Thursday in advance of their preseason game against the Cavs on Saturday. “If we’re both trying to win, he’s against us, and that’s a matter of fact.”

This isn’t personal, Bosh said, and he reinforced it by recalling a gift he and his wife, Adrienne, recently sent James.

“He had a baby shower, and we sent him a gift for his daughter,” Bosh said. “Then training camp started, and that was about it.”

Clarifying comments he made Tuesday, Bosh said he did speak with James briefly at Dwyane Wade‘s wedding Aug. 30.

“My time is backwards and everything, but we talked,” Bosh said. “I want people to understand I’m a competitor, and he’s on the other team. I think he’d understand that, and I understand that, and that’s how it is now.”


VIDEO: Chris Bosh talks after the Heat’s practice Thursday in Brazil

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No. 2: Carter-Williams could miss start of season — When we last about the status of Philadelphia 76ers point guard Michael Carter-Williams in late September, he wasn’t ready for five-on-five drills at training camp. How’s he doing since then? Apparently not a whole lot better. According to Dei Lynam of CSNPhilly.com, Carter-Williams isn’t expected to suit up in the preseason and could very well miss the start of the regular season:

Don’t expect to see Michael Carter-Williams suit up this preseason, and it is possible he misses the start of the regular season, too.

“I see a stronger body including his shoulder,” Brett Brown said Thursday after practice. “I see a more fit player including his wind and cardio stuff. I think that he is going on the path that we anticipated. What does that translate into him playing physical, five-on-five basketball? I still think he is a few weeks away.”

The Sixers open the regular season Oct. 29 in Indianapolis against the Pacers.

Carter-Williams underwent surgery to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder on May 6. He has not participated in any contact basketball the past five months.

“He gets through all the shooting we are doing well,” Brown said. “He puts up shots and he seems to be doing things pain-free. That is obviously the barometer of when he can come back. He has passed all the tests to date, but I think it is still a ways away.”

Tony Wroten is starting at point guard in Carter-Williams’ absence. When MCW returns, Brown anticipates playing the two together as he did at times last season.

“[Wroten] is a versatile type player who can play with Michael,” Brown said. “To have multiple pick-and-roll players on the floor is an emerging NBA trend. I see Michael and Tony being able to coexist in that environment.”


VIDEO: Sixers coach Brett Brown talks after Philly’s preseason win over Charlotte

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No. 3: Rivers takes a page from Jackson’s book — Former Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers coach (and current New York Knicks executive) Phil Jackson is one of the great coaches in NBA history in part because he could always find ways to motivate superstars. One of Jackson’s go-to moves in that department was the use of visualization techniques to help push those NBA elite under his employ to new heights. According to

Phil Jackson and Doc Rivers have something in common. They use visualization techniques to help their players.

Rivers has used exercises to help his team see themselves as champions. Last season, four days after he took over the team, he wanted the Clippers to plan out their championship parade route.

Then he insisted on covering up the Lakers championship banners and retired jerseys at Staples Center. On Wednesday, he bought a suite for the Clippers, so they could watch the Kings’ raise their championship banner at Staples Center and imagine it was them who had won a title.

Although the Clippers have never gotten past the second round of the playoffs, Rivers wants his team to believe that they could be champions.

He wants them to feel it. See it. Smell it. Believe it.


VIDEO: Coach Doc Rivers discusses the Clippers’ preseason loss to the Warriors

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No. 4: Beasley headed to China — Forward Michael Beasley has never been able to fit into the NBA world seemingly ever since he was taken No. 2 overall in the 2008 Draft by the Miami Heat. After stops in Minnesota, Phoenix and, last season, Miami (again), Beasley looked to be nearly out of NBA options. He signed with the Memphis Grizzlies on a non-guaranteed deal and yesterday decided to leave the NBA and is headed to China to play for the Shanghai Sharks, writes Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports:

Michael Beasley has left the Memphis Grizzlies’ training camp and signed a one-year deal with the Shanghai Sharks of the China Basketball Association, agent Jared Karnes told Yahoo Sports on Thursday.

Beasley had come to the Grizzlies’ camp on a non-guaranteed deal and his chances of making the opening night roster were still uncertain. The opportunity to accept a lucrative one-year deal with Shanghai proved too difficult to pass on.

Beasley hadn’t been well enough to travel with Memphis on its current two-game preseason road trip, and as one team official said, “That was going to make it much harder for him to make the team.”

Once the CBA season ends in March, Beasley will be free to sign with an NBA team.

The Sharks are owned by Yao Ming, the former Houston Rockets star.

Off-the-court issues have contributed to the reluctance of NBA teams to sign Beasley, but he showed maturity in his return to Miami and remains a scoring threat on the floor. His best NBA season came with Minnesota in 2010-11, when he averaged 19 points a game. He’s also played with the Phoenix Suns.

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SOME RANDOM HEADLINES: Just how good is Golden State Warriors shooting guard Klay Thompson? Good enough to thoroughly impress Kobe Bryant … ICYMI, the Sacramento Kings’ DeMarcus Cousins is starting to feel a little worn down from his busy summer … Get ready to see Utah Jazz big man Enes Kanter shooting a lot of 3-pointers this season … New York Knicks coach Derek Fisher has been impressed with J.R. Smith‘s work ethic in training camp … Syracuse University coach Jim Boeheim says in his new book that Knicks star Carmelo Anthony wasn’t exactly a great student at the university … OKC Thunder star Kevin Durant is teaming up with HBO to film a TV special … The Memphis Grizzlies’ offense looked pretty awful in their loss to the Houston Rockets last night …

ICYMI OF THE NIGHT: Utah’s Gordon Hayward already has his jumping legs in regular-season shape, I think …


VIDEO: Gordon Hayward powers home a jam over Joel Freeland

21 Comments

  1. meowmeowmagoo says:

    I think Spo’ could have done much more on offense to utilize those three more effectively. I don’t think he did much to be honest. It seemed like the only time those guys really looked electric in unison was when LeBron and Wade were feeding off each other, and that was only effective because those two had the chemistry of identical twins on the court. That was just natural play-making between the two of them. Bosh should have been more consistently involved which is on Spo. He should have forced teams to guard all three of them constantly instead of just making LeBron and Wade create their own offense. That being said though, I do think Spo is a really solid coach, but I don’t think he capitalized on the potential of that trio.

    I’m pretty sure Pat Riley is the reason this team dropped off last year. He made way too many gambles on players that couldn’t be relied on which put too much weight on Bosh and LeBron, especially given Wade’s “maintenance” program.

    I am very curious to see what Blatt cooks up in Cleveland. It should be very interesting.

  2. Unkle Daddy says:

    No matter what Chalmers and Bosh, think about there time with LBJ the weight was on his shoulders win or lose, no one was looking at them. He got both of them rings, something they won’t likely get again.

  3. Game Time says:

    Well Bosh you talk about being competitive despite wanting to jack up threes instead of battling in the post. The effort on all those guys part was just horrible.

  4. ok lets see says:

    Mario had no choice but to play sg…bosh had no choice but to stand at three point line…how the heck is he suppose to rebound…he is a pf guarding centers who only know how to rebound and nothing else. poor wade had to cut to the basket so and he was often seen falling on the floor so much that i got confused between wade and the mop lol…i had to say that one.

  5. KaashMoneyy94 says:

    Chalmers is being hecka soft! Calling LBJ demanding. If you played the way you play with Kobe as your teammate, he’d give you the death staredown for the rest of the game. Then 5-10 years later, he would throw you under the bus as a weak player like he did with Smush Paker. LBJ aint that bad

  6. harriethehawk says:

    It’s good that Beasley is deciding to get away and play overseas. He needs to check himself before he wrecks himself.

  7. Brian says:

    The difference is that Irving actually has talent so I’m sure he won’t be scolded.

  8. TTKIN says:

    Is it me or does it seem like Chalmers didn’t like playing with Lebron at all? Like the only perk was that the team was winning.

    Anyone else thinking PHI might keep MCW out for the entire season cuz of “an injury”?

  9. Vlad says:

    James was hard of him because of his constant bonehead plays and immature attitude. It has nothing to do with how he treats point guards.

  10. Zachary says:

    I think Chalmers and Boshs comments show how cowardly they have become. They weren’t complaining when he was with them and winning championships. It brought the best out if them. Both are players who clearly needed a mentor to guide them. Leadership is definitely going to be a problem now in Miami now that there won’t be a high demand of perfection and accountability.

  11. T gas TT ako says:

    BEASLEY’S case is a perfect example that in the NBA talents are not enough,, ATTITUDE will take you where u wanna go!!!!!

    • cp10 says:

      There’s just too much money IMHO; u get rich even when u lose

    • MR. J says:

      beasley is trash bro lol. he was good at first till he started gettin paid an used his fame for drugs and weapons..dude isnt a real ahtlete. take a look at durant. hes a real athlete.

  12. jmndodge says:

    Good players find a way to get it done. They have played together on the US team… however 82 games with practice and travel time does get right down to the basics of relationships. I suspect that James is hardest on himself – which gives him a solid base for high expectations from others around him. Love, might just learn to become more vocal himself – and respond to teammates not just the refs.

  13. TJH says:

    Thoughts:
    The difference is LBJ won’t need to scold Kyrie the way he did Chalmers. Rio is a league-average pg at best, while Kyrie is one of the top 3 pgs and a top 10 player in the league. LeBron knows this, and Kyrie will have a longer leash than Rio. Comparing the two guards and their roles on the their respective squads with LeBron is apples and oranges. I also get the impression that Kyrie’s game is more cerebral than Chalmers’, which will make for a more harmonious marriage with LBJ. It’ll be interesting to see how Chalmers’ game evolves now that he’s going to be forced to take on a bigger role.
    Great stuff from Doc, that team seems primed to make a deep run. Great leadership and talent on that roster, and Blake’s jumper looked good a couple of nights ago. If he can effectively stretch the floor this year, look out.
    It’s too bad Beasley could never really figure it out, because he’s clearly a great talent. He’s still young, so maybe a year in China will get him to the point that he’ll get serious about becoming a force in the League. Conversely, a year making big money and being ‘the man’ over there (we know they love NBA guys) could put him on a successful track, a la Stephon Marbury. Hopefully he stays healthy and has a good experience over there- both on and off the court.

    • TTKIN says:

      Keep in mind that every player who played under Thibs has said that Rose got scolded the most because he had the most upside. Thibs wanted him to reach his potential and be their leader.

      So ya Kyrie certainly might get some scolding from James.

    • Viper says:

      First thing, not to hate but Kyrie is NOT a top 10 player in the league. Top 20 then thats reasonable. Top 10 point guards is reasonable.

      Top 3 PG are: Chris Paul, Westbrooke, & Tony Parker after that you can argue Rose (if healthy), Rondo (if healthy), Irving, Lillard, Wall, etc

      Be realistic, he couldn’t take the Cavs to the playoffs. These other PGs have taken their teams to the playoffs. Yes some of them have a running mates to help and he was on his own but now no excuses. He will be one of the top players if he is the one that leads the Cavs forward not LBJ or Love, if not his success will piggybag from the other two stars.

    • Carvin says:

      To be fair to Mario people must remember he wasn’t a point guard in college Sherron Collin ran the point. Miami tried to convert him to the point on a team where Wade and James actually handled the position more than the point guard so how do you develop. Whereas it’s clear who the point guard is in Cleveland, now the issue will be how does James handle not having the ball in his hands.

    • Mitchell West says:

      Kyrie Irving might be a top 3 PG in the Eastern Conference. Certainly not the entire league. I’d gladly take Paul, Wall, Curry, (a healthy) Rose over him. Too much shooting. Too many misses.

    • Bobby says:

      K. Irving is not a top top player just yet and he is not top three PG. You have CP3, Tony Parker, Westbrook, Rondo, Rose, Lillard, and still Nash. Rio is right LBJ will be tough on Irving and Love. Also remember Love and Irving don’t have any rings or MVPs, LBJ does.