Morning shootaround — Aug. 11


Team USA cut motivates Wall for 2014-15 | Ginobili’s international playing days likely done | Who will be in HOF come 2015?

No. 1: Wall has his motivation for next season — Washington Wizards guard John Wall has had his fair share of doubters throughout his NBA career, although his being a part of Team USA’s training camp and his All-Star nod last season has quieted some of that chatter. Wall, though, was cut last week by Team USA in the first roster pare down and tells Ben Standig of he will use that as his motivation in 2014-15:

The NBA leader in total assists this past season spoke with on Saturday at his charitable foundation’s “Back2School” event for children in Washington. Asked if he was given a fair shot to make the final 12-player roster, Wall said, “Nah, I don’t think so, but it’s a part of the game. I’m just happy to have the opportunity to be there and represent my country. I wish them the best of luck and hope they can win gold.”

Wall, who had treatment on his knee last month, stated he was pleased with his performance during the week.

“It was cool. It wasn’t bad at all,” Wall said of his left knee. “I got through the whole week. I thought I played pretty well. Things didn’t go in my favor. But, we’ll (get) past it.”

Several players from the initial group of 28 passed on competing internationally this summer, including point guards Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook and Deron Williams. Those absences combined with Wall’s breakout performance in his fourth NBA season led to the invitation.

Wall didn’t use the relative lateness of the invitation as an excuse, especially since he’s shown plenty in the past.

“I’ve been (around) for four years in a row. I think that’s enough time,” Wall said. “Everybody had the same fair amount of time as far as being (in Las Vegas) and playing. I think [Team USA] already had kind of in their mind what they wanted to do and what decisions they were going (to make).”


As the odd man out, Wall now has a new source of motivation heading into the upcoming season.

“Yeah, definitely, always. You want to make every team you try out for. When you don’t, it’s more motivation for me.

“Not even (against) just those (Team USA point guards), but the NBA, period. I guess I’m overlooked again. I guess have to prove myself one more time.”


No. 2: Ginobili’s international playing days likely over — A few weeks ago, we told you in this space about the Spurs denying Manu Ginobili‘s bid to play in the 2014 FIBA World Cup, citing a stress fracture that was discovered after the Spurs’ championship run.  It seems that Ginobili is not only out this summer, but also for the future when it comes to international hoops. The Buenos Aires daily newspaper La Nacion has more:

San Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili has become resigned to not playing for Argentina again after missing the World Cup in Spain through injury.

“Today, I can say for almost certain, 98%, that I won’t play any more (for Argentina),” the 37-year-old said in an interview with the Buenos Aires daily La Nacion published on Saturday.

Ginobili helped the Spurs win the NBA title in June but his club has refused him permission to play for his country at the World Cup because of a stress fracture.

The NBA has an agreement with the sport’s world governing body FIBA which stipulates that only players and not clubs can refuse their country’s invitation to play for the national team except for a “reasonable medical concern.”

The Spurs invoked this clause to prevent Ginobili from playing for Argentina in Spain at the tournament starting on Aug. 30 because of lingering effects of his injury.

Ginobili said he normally does not feel any pain but “when I jump, push or brake on the parquet (floor) is when it starts hurting.

“If I’d played this tournament it would have been the last, that’s sure It’s hard and it always will be to retire from this (Argentina) team,” said Ginobili, a member of his country’s so-called golden generation.


No. 3: Who might headline 2014 Hall of Fame class? — ICYMI over the weekend, former commissioner David Stern, ex-Heat star Alonzo Mourning and ex-Kings star Mitch Richmond were officially inducted into the Naitsmith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame as part of the class of 2014. Now that they’ve gotten hoops immortality, who might be next to receive that honor? Our Scott Howard-Cooper offers up his thoughts:

The look-ahead at the candidates with NBA ties eligible for the first time for the Hall of Fame’s potential Class of 2015 requires no squinting into the distance. It does not require looking at all, come to think of it.

That voice. No one mistakes the sound, part thunder, part Cookie Monster, often accompanied by a fog horn of a laugh.

The visual is so unique, though. No need to see the face, in smile or the scowl of an intimidating defender, or the imposing 7-foot-2, 265-pound frame or the signature No. 55 that followed him through 18 seasons and six teams. Only one form of ID is necessary.

A finger.

An index finger poked into the sky, wagging back and forth a few times, a windshield-wiper admonishment to whatever foolish, naïve opponent with an obvious need to be embarrassed tried to take the ball to the rim against Dikembe Mutombo.

The four-time Defensive Player of the Year, eight-time All-Star and college standout at Georgetown is not only the leading candidate for enshrinement among players eligible for the first time to be nominated, he is the only candidate.


SOME RANDOM HEADLINES: Nuggets coach Brian Shaw is expecting to see some on-court growth from Kenneth Faried this season … Ex-NBA journeyman Anthony Johnson has a good shot at landing the coaching gig at his alma mater, College of Charleston … Ray Allen recently played golf with President Barack Obama … Warriors forward Harrison Barnes shows off some golf skills


  1. Bob says:

    Love you’re show

  2. CP3 can't be #1 says:

    cp3 can’t be #1. He missed clutch free throws last season in critical games. And if you noticed, he is a defensive liability when he has to guard an offensive minded point guard. The Clippers are playing 4 on 5 defense when he’s on the court. He played OKAY against Warriors, and they win ONLY because Bogut was injured. PERIOD. The series is over in 5 or 6 in favor of Golden State if Bogut was healthy. Cp3 and Curry zeroed each other out. And MR. WESTBROOK…. oooooooooo MR. WESTBROOK absolutely killed cp3. He exposed that fact that cp3 has no D. Because cp3 is a liability on D, I guess the Clippers can now get a good State Farm discount……and with that I close.

  3. Michael says:

    Cp3 is a beast but Parker…

  4. harriethehawk says:

    John Wall, don’t worry about being cut for USA Basketball. You have bigger fish to fry, like aiming to be the 3rd seed in the Leastern Conference. Kenneth Farried is overrated. He just jumps around the court.

  5. Studentofthegame says:

    Instead of stating an opinion on which Point Guards are the best in what order, rather look at stats via an efficiency formula like this article to confirm (what I already knew, CP3 is clearly the best, head and shoulders above actually!). This blog was done early last season, but it shows who really are the top PG’s and how they effect their various teams in different ways.
    They explain it well and the PG index they’re using here is a smart way to compare them.

    1. Chris Paul 6. Russel Westbrook
    2. Stephen Curry 7. Mike Conley
    3. Damian Lillard 8. Tony Parker
    4. John Wall 9. Jeff Teague
    5. Ty Lawson 10.Jrue Holiday

  6. Jesse Quist says:

    are you guys ranking these pg’s based on fancy handles or are you ranking them based on effectiveness. A point guard
    should be ranked based on how well they control the game as well as help their teams win.

    In that case the list would look something like this

    1) Chris Paul (all round pg)
    2) Tony Parker
    3) Russel Westbrook (only 3 because he’s undisciplined sometimes but that’s also part of the reason he’s great)
    4) Steph Curry (only 4 because of his ability to catch fire at any time, would normally rank him 5)
    5) Damien Lillard (yes, I would rather have Lillard on my team than Kyrie Irvin )

    *Rondo is nice but he can’t shoot to save his life and that hurts a team, especially if you dont have
    3 other super stars carrying it
    *Kyrie Irvin – I’m sure he can be great one day but I’m yet to see him have an effect on a game without
    taking 25 shots
    *Rose – Rose before injury would probably be number 2 on this list but I refuse to rank someone top 5
    just because he was a former league mvp. He hasnt played since 2011, I will readjust my list when he plays
    and is effective.

  7. chris says:

    If we are talking Top 5 PG’s anyone who doesn’t doesn’t have chris Paul #1 go home or to sleep or do something creative and leave sports to the big boys, but seriously and anyone with rose in there top 5 can you wait till the season starts, no one has ever thought what if this injury takes his explosiveness away like what happen to brandon Roy and his knees. Heres my list of Top 5 PG’s please send criticism and your thoughts.

    1.Chris Paul
    2.Tony Parker
    3.Kyrie Irving
    4.Russel Westbrook
    5.Rajon Rondo/Stephen Curry(Very Debatable, Offensive vs Defensive PG)

  8. Darrell Peebles says:

    What does tony Parker have to do?
    1. CP#, hands dowm
    2. Parker, no question
    3. Skill and athleticism, Westbrook, Best overall skill but too many games out, Rose, therefore, next nest remaining guy is Curry.
    4. Westbrook; way too much talent, flat out takes over games. too many errors though.
    5. Wall and Kyrie Erving seem too close to call it, and this is

  9. Rhedz03 says:

    Top 5 point guard


  10. Kenneth Williams says:

    Wow fine toronto for drake saying durant should play for toronto but dont fine miami or cleveland or boston for how they tampered with the league in getting there big 3. Lebron recruited the players all-star players from other teams and they talked before it went down which you are not suppose to do. If your gona play police the do it right and fair dont pick on a small market team just cause they are not a contender in your empty eyes

  11. ayy lmao says:

    Kenneth Faried will not develop to become a PF that can be relied on. He can’t shoot, is undersized for the 4 spot, and cannot finish with any defensive pressure on him. If he plays on a team with a normal skilled center, meaning not a 3 pt shooting and long range shooting threat, the team he is on will not win anything important.

  12. bballjunkie1 says:

    I hope Wall studies the game more, he has to learn to go inside more to get the defenses to collapse and then also find his open man, get a drop shot. At this point in his game he stays on the outside, dribbles to much allowing defenses to set. He could be a good one with his hops and speed if he becomes a student of the game.

    • Umm.. no. says:

      Man where do you get this from? In the previous article on here wrote about him and his advantages versus the other selected PG’s for team USA (A.K.A what he does better) they determined that what sets John Wall apart is his lane penetration and ability to draw Defense and then find the open man. He’s one of the best D-Penetrating point guards in the league, and here you are saying he needs to expand on his game by learning how to get into the key… Just sayin, maybe watch a Wizards game before commenting on John Wall’s playstyle.

  13. B says:

    Top 5 really should go
    1. Chris Paul- All around PG all the way
    2. Tony Parker- He is a veteran and knows this game more than any other PG (not a fanboy decision, cant dispute his game)
    3. Steph Curry
    4. Kyrie Irving-
    5. Russel Westbrook- People over value Westbrook, dont get me wrong great player but too inconsistant to top these other 4
    — As for everybody that thinks Rose is a top 5 PG RIGHT NOW… you are making a rash decision. Season has not even started and you would place so much value on somebody that has had one of the worst injuries in basketball? I hope that Rose can come back as strong or stronger than he was, but realisticly he will look great and all of you will chant his name but he probably will not be a top 5 PG again. I love Rondo but i honestly cant put him up here because as of RIGHT NOW, he is not a top 5.

  14. tremill says:

    Man Wall can be a great pg i hope he does use this us cut situation as motivation. Its his time to make his move to being top 3 pgs in the league.

    Curry ( i dont even like Curry but respect his game)

    • kris says:

      No way man 1. Chris paul 2. Derrick rose 3.stephen curry 4. Russell Westbrook(not even a point guard but still plays the position) 5. Tony Parker ….. I respect John walls game but he’s not on these guys level yet

      • charless702 says:

        How can you legitimately have Rose at 2 when he hasn’t played in a few years? I’m not doubting his skills but you have to earn your spot on a top 5 list and over the last 2 years he hasn’t done that. IMO I’d have to see him in action before I could add him to the top 5. I’d really like to see him play against some quality defenses.

      • tremill says:

        Yeah yet. Thats the key word. He has to start by coming out this year and proving he can do the types of things those other pgs can do. And yeah deff russ is in there skill wise but like u said he plays out of position. I agree.

    • charless702 says:

      @Tremill. 3 guys who will never lead their teams to a NBA Championship. Chris Paul has a chance but I doubt he will either. Wall and Curry will never even make a Finals appearance. It’s hard to take 3 of your top 4 seriously when one can’t stay on the floor and two have great teams but can’t get out of the second round of the playoffs. Wall needs a ton of work for him to even be considered top 5. Rose needs more than just 1 MVP year. Curry needs to become more than just a shooter. It’s also hard to give your list any credibility without having Tony Parker on it.

      • B says:

        I agree with this 100%, Being realistic with your opinions is the best way to voice them! haha

      • Jeff says:

        Agree Parker is a definite in any top five and realistically probably top 3, but this year he had the best backup guard in the league (excluding maybe Clippers). Half the time commentators were calling Mills as Parker. Parker is also a reasonable defender, but mostly (and this goes for Mills too) makes the best decision on what to do with the ball given each circumstance, which is made very easy given the Spurs play as a TEAM. So if you’rs looking for a good team PG it’s hard to go past Parker.

      • Jeff says:

        He however plays for France so in this post can’t be included in Top 5 US guards

      • charless702 says:

        Hmm, I must have missed the “US guards” part.