Will The Knicks Miss Stoudemire?

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HANG TIME NEW JERSEY –
Was the news of Amar’e Stoudemire‘s latest knee surgery a surprise? It depends on your perspective.

On one hand, Stoudemire looked better over the last two months than he did at any point last season. And he totaled 38 points and 17 rebounds in 60 minutes on Wednesday and Thursday. The news was sudden.

On the other hand, this is Amar’e Stoudemire we’re talking about. And it would probably have been a bigger surprise if he had made it through the rest of the season healthy.

Either way, the Knicks’ rotation just got even thinner now that Stoudemire is set to have surgery on his right knee, which will keep him out of action for the next six weeks. Six weeks from Saturday is the first day of the playoffs, but it would be awfully optimistic to think that he could be ready for the first couple of games of the first round.

In addition to Stoudemire, the Knicks will be without Rasheed Wallace for the rest of the season. So, even if you count Carmelo Anthony (who’s also out with a knee injury) as a power forward, the Knicks’ third big in the rotation is Marcus Camby, Kenyon Martin or Kurt Thomas. Take your pick, because none of the three has been effective.

Stoudemire had been pretty strong offensively, averaging 14.2 points in 23.6 minutes on 58 percent shooting. But it’s hard to say that he made a big difference for the Knicks overall.

Stoudemire wasn’t a part of the Knicks’ early-season success and they were 16-13 in his 29 games. His defense wasn’t good and he was just a plus-28 in 682 total minutes.

The Knicks were pretty good with Anthony, Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler on the floor together, but take Chandler out and they were pretty terrible … on both ends of the floor.

Knicks efficiency with Anthony and Stoudemire on floor

Chandler on/off floor MIN OffRtg DefRtg NetRtg +/-
Chandler on 222 115.5 107.6 +7.9 +36
Chandler off 210 98.2 113.7 -15.5 -65
Total 432 107.0 110.6 -3.6 -29

OffRtg = Points scored per 100 possessions
DefRtg = Points allowed per 100 possessions
NetRtg = Point differential per 100 possessions

So yeah, the Knicks were, once again, outscored by their opponents when Anthony and Stoudemire shared the floor.

Of course, the Knicks have been generally mediocre for the last two months, whether or not Stoudemire was on the floor. He did help them on the interior offensively as their 3-point shooting regressed.

Still, if New York is going to win a playoff series for the first time in 13 years, it has to get better on the defensive end of the floor. And that might be easier to do without Stoudemire, as painful as it is to see guys like Thomas and James White get minutes.

Ultimately, Anthony’s health is a greater concern. The Knicks won a laugher over the Jazz without both Anthony and Stoudemire on Saturday, but that probably said more about Utah than it did about New York.

 

26 Comments

  1. anil says:

    Hi Knicks!! looking at the way our Knicks are playing and with the remaining upcoming games they will end up with (if they are lucky!!! ) a 42-40 record and will be swept in the first round. They need to change that whole freakin team!! including the coach who is speechless and clueless now!!

  2. KilluaBest says:

    i thought the knicks will be there for the match for the east esp the miami..now it looks like 1st round playoff will be their best…sad.

  3. theholyspectator says:

    iunno about amare but the knicks will miss the 2013 NBA Larry O Brien Trophy thats for certain

  4. iSHAQ or SHAQTOLOGY says:

    WILL THE KNICKS MISS STOUDEMIRE?
    NO….. KENYON MARTIN is there…

  5. Patty says:

    YES, THE TEAM MISSES Stoudemire AND THE FANS DO TOO. STOUDEMIRE IS A GREAT PLAYER.

    JR SMITH IS DOING A GREAT JOB.

    WHERE IS ANTHONY AND WHAT IS HE UP TO??

    COACH WILSON TOOK THE BLAME FOR CRY BABY CARMELO.

  6. Jake says:

    This is exactly the reason why Amare should have been moved at the trade deadline. Being the most overrated PF in the league, Amare, would have been able to get a few good role players for the team.. Too bad they kept the guy around

  7. curti11 says:

    Amare is overrated. let me say this again for all you head in your butt fans out there. He is overrated. The knicks will go back to dominating like they were in the begginning of the season with him gone. He does not bode well with Carmelo because he wants to be the all star. don’t give me this amare turning a new leaf for his team just stop it. He wants to be the man end of story. However this is melo’s team and I don’t think he’s gonna get his team far in the playoffs either.

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  9. sallyboy says:

    Um. Who’s gonna trade for a guy coming off 2 knee surgeries in the past year as well as 2 previous suregeries. The Nuggets are flying hgh with the guys they got from the Knicks for Melo. They already have plenty of biggs without injuries. Copeland does great in garbage time. Let’s seem him do that nighly in competitive games. I agree Kenyon could be key if he is even half the player he was in his prime.

  10. Jacques says:

    It always amazes me how almost every Knicks victory, no matter how decisive, is met by both “experts” and fans alike with an immediate mention (if not in-depth discussion) of their opponent’s shortcomings. Utah was tired, Utah was disinterested, Utah is hearing Laker footsteps and wilting, blah, blah. The fact is they are a playoff contender who got *spanked* by a short-handed but proud, resilient and deep Knicks team.

  11. Michael says:

    Look. The Knicks aren’t winning anything even full strenght. So why not watch fun basketball, with good D and ball movement. I’ll take this team through an exciting 1st round exit over a plodding Melo/Stat second round exit any day.

  12. samonroundball says:

    not as much as they miss chandler’s ability to roll & finish -or novak’s ability to get free or shumpert tbeing a lock down defender or pablo starting alongside feltton-pablo is their best full court defender! — knicks cannot & will not go far as long as they rely solely on melo & J.R. for offense-as that will be shut down during post season-what knicks do miss is an offensive coordinator.

  13. iSHAQ or SHAQTOLOGY says:

    KNICKS pls get DELONTE WEST or GILBERT ARENAS….
    for a rotational bench player….

  14. iSHAQ or SHAQTOLOGY says:

    Give Away Amare to LAKERS or HAWKS or SIXERS….
    and KNICKS can get JOSH SMITH or ANDRE IGUODALA to beat the Heat.

  15. nahhh…they won’t miss em…they had a winning streak the first week of the season..they better trade stoudemire for a better player…hes way to expensive and not living up to his contract lol

  16. b-rad says:

    The knicks offensive answer may have hit the floor late in the game in Chris Copeland. The guy can flat out score and woody needs to consider giving him big minutes possibly shared with k-mart. Kmart’s defense is a vast improvement over amare anyway you look at it. Quite frankly the knicks were and will be fine withour Amare. He was playing well but its the defense that will ultimately make or break this team. If they play good D and the threes are falling they will possibly go deep into the playoffs. Unfortunately Miami and possibly Indiana at this time look to have the advantage come playoff time.

  17. John Abraham says:

    Not even a Nuggets fan, but Amare should be traded there when the year is done. They need an all star and they can give the knicks something they need.

  18. Yer Boy says:

    It goes to show that Utah will probably drop out of the 8th seed if they lose to an underpowered knicks team, the Jazz have plenty of talent yet they lose to a team missing to star players? That’s just really bad bball, hopefully knicks mak a playoff run

  19. knick4eva says:

    how can u even say kenyon martin has not been effective with a straight face???? go watch the last 2 games and speak with intelligence next time