James And Allen: The Perfect Pairing?





HANG TIME NEW JERSEY – With four minutes to go in the third quarter of the Miami Heat’s 94-80 victory over the Los Angeles Clippers on Thursday, LeBron James caught the ball at the high post and ran a pick-and-roll with Chris Bosh.

Bosh rolled to the basket and Jamal Crawford, who was guarding Ray Allen in the left corner, took a step toward the paint. Allen drifted up toward the wing, James hit him with a jump pass, and Crawford couldn’t recover in time. So Allen calmly stroked his third 3-pointer of the night.

That was when the realization hit you. Ray Allen, the most prolific 3-point shooter in NBA history, is on the same team as LeBron James, the best player in the world.

It’s not just that Allen is a great shooter. It’s also that no one moves without the ball better than he does. He runs you off screens, reads the defense, and finds his spots. Take your eye off him for one second, and you’re left hoping that his shot is off the mark.

And it’s not just that James is the best player in the world. It’s also that he’s a brilliant and very willing passer. He reads defenses just as well and is able to find open teammates whenever an extra defender looks to help on the ball.

So, while you’re not going to put Allen ahead of Dwyane Wade in your shooting guard rankings, he is a more natural fit with James. And of course, three points are more than two.

Ethan Skolnick of The Palm Beach Post wrote yesterday about the on-court relationship between James and Allen

While Dwyane Wade, rehabilitating at a measured pace from minor knee surgery, is expected to play a few minutes and potentially even start at off guard, Allen is likely to get some time with LeBron James and some of the other starters.

That was the case Sunday in Atlanta, and there were some sequences late in the first quarter when James and Allen started showing some initial scary signs of of symbiosis, assisting on each other’s baskets on subsequent possessions.

Each has promised that it shouldn’t take long to hone their connection, with James noting the distinction between the arduous road to assimilation with the more similarly skilled Wade and this smoother one with the more complementary Allen.

“It’s a little different for me playing with a new teammate when he does something different than what (I) do,” James said. “When I’ve added shooters or guys like Ray in the past, I’ve been able to adjust to that. Because I know where they are, I know where they like the ball, and I’m able to feed off them.”

The idea is that James and Allen make each other better. James gets Allen more open looks, and Allen gives James more space to drive or post up. Simple concept.

But interestingly, in his two seasons with the Heat, James’ teammates have shot better from 3-point range when he was off the floor.

LeBron James’ teammates 3-point shooting, last two seasons

James on/off floor 3PM 3PA 3P%
On floor 513 1,421 36.1%
Off floor 258 660 39.1%

Those are regular season numbers though, and the playoffs have been a different story, especially last season. On the road to his first championship, James became a different player, getting to the paint more often than he ever had. In the 2012 Playoffs, more than 54 percent of his shots came from the paint, a big jump from any season or postseason he’s ever played.

LeBron James shooting in the paint

Season FGM FGA FG% %FGA
2003-04 Reg. season 376 724 51.9% 48.5%
2004-05 Reg. season 469 773 60.7% 45.9%
2005-06 Reg. season 506 814 62.2% 44.7%
2006 Playoffs 95 141 67.4% 45.9%
2006-07 Reg. season 470 731 64.3% 45.1%
2007 Playoffs 98 176 55.7% 44.1%
2007-08 Reg. season 496 775 64.0% 47.2%
2008 Playoffs 68 109 62.4% 39.6%
2008-09 Reg. season 464 705 65.8% 43.7%
2009 Playoffs 87 136 64.0% 43.6%
2009-10 Reg. season 451 657 68.6% 43.0%
2010 Playoffs 63 101 62.4% 47.9%
2010-11 Reg. season 449 719 62.4% 48.4%
2011 Playoffs 101 173 58.4% 46.4%
2011-12 Reg. season 379 576 65.8% 49.3%
2012 Playoffs 177 272 65.1% 54.2%

%FGA = Percentage of total field goal attempts

Early in the first round, Heat coach Erik Spoelstra talked about the “symbiotic relationship” between his team’s attackers and shooters. And he turned out to be quite prophetic.

In the 2012 postseason, James’ teammates shot 122-for-307 (39.7 percent) from 3-point range when he was on the floor. When he was on the bench, they shot an ugly 13-for-60 (21.7 percent) from beyond the arc.

Shane Battier and Mario Chalmers were the primary beneficiaries of James’ presence. Each shot better than 40 percent from beyond the arc with James on the floor, and they combined to shoot a putrid 3-for-32 on threes when the MVP was on the bench.

It remains to be seen if James can play an entire season like he played last year’s playoffs. He’s the league’s best player either way, but if he continues to attack the paint and limit his own jumpers, he’ll create more open ones for his teammates.

And Ray Allen is a guy who knows how to take advantage of some extra space.

119 Comments

  1. King__LJ says:

    i would like to join this conversation at the end of the season, for all you heat lebron haters. GO HEAT!!!

  2. DHAM says:

    HA!!! VERY ENTERTAINING @MYTOWNLA YEAH I MESSED ON MY GRAMMAR BUT EVERYBODY DOES GOOD LOOKING OUT @ UOKCFY. I’M JUST BEING REAL CALLING IT LIKE I SEE IT LEBRON IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE, LET’S JUST BE REAL PUT KOBE ON ANY ON OF LEBRON’S CLEVELAND’S TEAMS WHAT WOULD YOU GET???. MAYBE AN 8TH SEED IN EAST AND KOBE ASKING FOR A TRADE ALA 2008. I GIVE KOBE’S HIS PROPS BUT YOU THINK SO 1-DIMENSIONAL IT’S INSANE. LEBRON EFFECT’S THE GAME IN MORE WAYS THAN KOBE CAN. SO WHILE I TELL IT LIKE IT IS YOU TELL IT LIKE IT MIGHT BE. THE WORST MOVE THE LAKERS MADE WAS TO LET DREW GO. KOBE DID’NT FEED HIM THE BALL ENOUGH AND I’M GLAD HE CAN GET HIS SHINE IN PHILLY. GOOD LUCK TO THE LAKERS AND THAT WEAK BENCH EXCEPT FOR MEEKS AND JAMISON, YOU STUDY THE GAME AND MAYBE YOU’LL LEARN SOMETHING INSTEAD BEING ARROGANT OR BEING SNITCH MADE LIKE KOBE.

  3. Dixon says:

    Heat haters are still in denial lol poor fans. I feel so bad for them.

  4. KOBE BRYANT says:

    LEBRON aka THE STUPID KING left it’s empire (cavs) to join 2 other kings to win, so stop saying that lebron is better than kobe, because kobe is kobe and the only reason why the cavs went to the finals in 06-07 is because east are weak at that time. and please stop calling him king beacuse a king doesn’t back until it’s OWN empire wins

  5. bubba says:

    Ray Allen is without a doubt the best 3-point shooter is history. Ray and Lebron are a very good match offensively, but not on the defensive end. I am a Celtic fan and I can tell you that Ray has become a defensive liability. Ray has lost a lot of his athletic ability and has a hard time guarding quicker guards. In addition the loss of athletic ability has also made it hard for Ray to get his own shot. I personally think a Celtic team who has a defensive bulldog in Avery Bradley and plays great team defense can give Miami a run for their money. All that being said Ray Allen DEFINITELY makes the Heat better, and this NBA season will be a good one.

  6. DHAM says:

    @MYTOWLA IM ACTUALLY WELL EDUCATED CHUMP!!! JUST CAUSE YOU’RE A HATER AND YOU DON’T GIVE PROPS TO A GREAT PLAYER LIKE LEBRON. I THINK KOBE IS A GREAT PLAYER I RESPECT HE’S GAME ON THE COURT, BUT YOU THE TYPE THAT WILL BE DRY SNITCHING LIKE KOBE WHEN YOU GET CAUGHT UP LOL. BUT GOOD LOOK WHEN HOWARD AND NASH’S BACK’S, METTA’S WORLD PEACE’S 72-10 PREDICTION AND KOBE’S IMITATION OF MJ AND MAYBE WE’LL SEE YOU AT THE FINISH LINE, CHECKMATE, MARK!!!

    • Mytownla says:

      Checkmate? Mark? Really? Is that how you conclude your ignorant comment? That shows right there that you are an underaged idiot, trying to make himself relivent to the world. Awwwww lol is someone a little butthurt? Because it sounds as if you got your feeligs hurt lil boy…What YOU need to worry about is going back to school becasue my 2 year old has better grammer than you moron. “I respect he’s game on the court ( i think you meant HIS game) And you said good “look”, you must feel better now that i taught you how to spell “luck”, and you claim your well educated? Graduating from the 5th grade is a good accomplishment for you, congrats on finally doing so. smh man…. Laker hatr that live in laker land, its a shame, but Bron Bron cheerleaders like you will apologize by the end of the season, theres your “checkmate, mark” lmao

  7. Dennis - Bulls Fan says:

    Im a Bulls fan. So frankly.. I dont give a ####.

  8. HeatKingsofEast says:

    hahahahah! first and foremost, john schuhmman didn’t compare ray allen 3point shooting to other opposing players. the culprit here in the comment section are this 3 stupid morons who commented first named: BRUNO, DAVID AND kILLarifIC

    @Bruno @David @kILLarifIC
    i bet you had watched the first pre-season game of nyk wherein novak had 7/7 and jump up joy that nyk has a promising 3point shooter. guess what? check the stats of novak in the 2nd pre-season game. smh! hahaha! novak won’t be making 3′s in the playoffs, the luckiest he can get is 2 made 3′s in around 6-8 attempts.

  9. i have to agree with you hypebeast, people just can stand the fact that lebron will be in the finals again, and will dominate once again in the finals. people accept the fact that is lebron turn to dominate the landscape of the nba at a winning level.

  10. HypeBeast says:

    You guys are a joke… You’re basing the ‘best 3 point shooter’ on someone’s %’s for the last 2-3 seasons…

    Where does Novak stand on the all time list, how many shots is he expected to take, how many defenses plan around Novak.

    Ray Allen is the best 3 point pure shooter, as he demands the respect & attention on the floor. I’m sure EVERY TEAM would rather Novak have his 12ppg (on a good day) & watch Melo & Stat flounder offensively, as usual.

    This year, Ray will have one of his most efficient seasons ever. He’ll have more space, more energy, less attention/focus on him, an athletic back court & some of the best ball movement in the league.

    RECOGNIZE!
    -KingFlash

  11. Kobeng-Burat says:

    @Jay

    Yeah you maybe right… Because You stink too much… that’s why we’re having trouble smelling the finals…. Take a bath… And Please … brush your teeth… You’re destroying the OZONE layer…. For the sake of Human race… shut up your mouth…. We’re smelling kobe’s ball on your breath….

  12. ALBERT says:

    too much disrespect to ray allen, people think about this, ray is gonna be playing with probably the best talent he has ever played with. he is not gonna be ask to be the starter on the team which means he can be healthy for a extended period of time and possible reach the playoffs a 100% healthy for the first time in a long time. dont be surprised if ray shoots career best % in 3 pointers.

  13. Willie says:

    Are you serious, you comparing Steve Novak to RayAllen SHOOTING?!!! Teams play Ray because he can shoot

  14. ReyM says:

    wasnt Ray “old” and “Limping” last season when he was with the Celtics?? so now he has join the Heat he is the best thing ever? you so writers full a jokes….. Ray can no longer create his own shot… he is now gonna be another James Jones, Mike Miller kinda player.. just catch and shoot..

  15. Garrett says:

    The Greatest 3 point shooter in history is Reggie Miller!

  16. Esqibo says:

    Comparing Ray Allen with Steve Novack is just blasphemous and ludicrous. People need to just stop his nonsense.

  17. Castor Troy says:

    Oh Allen, Allen, Allen… You will be missed in Beantown. Sigh… Can’t wait for the opening ceremonies! Celtics vs Heat with all eyes on Allen. This is gonna be good! Go Celtics!!!

  18. Jay says:

    Miami won’t even smell the final this year…

  19. ddddd says:

    This comes from a dejected magic fan…. So it has to be objective right??? (I know Dwight is gone… Roof collapsing armageddon blah blah blah)
    Lebron has a skillset not seen since MJ… With that being said MJ played to his strengths as a 6foot6 guard and Lebron plays to his strengths as a 6foot8 260 lb beast of a forward…. So its apples and oranges. Not who is better than who….. Now with the Kobe argument that is no contest it is MJ at this point was better.
    Miami has put together a roster that would make traditionalists scratch their heads. IT IS NOT TRADITIONAL BASKETBALL!!! However non-traditional does not mean bad. Non-traditional just means non-traditional. This non-traditional team has put together skillsets that fit into what they want to accomplish. This non-traditional team won a championship.
    So this absurd comparison between Allen and Novak is also apples and oranges. Novak is probably the best role playing shooting big man in the NBA right now.. Allen is the 3pt shooting leader, former allstar, a guard. Heck even comparing Dirk to Novak is an unfair comparison in spite of the fact that the two play the same position. Dirk=allstar, Novak=role player. Novak will never reach even the heights of Rashard Lewis.. Lewis-former allstar, Novak–most likely forever role player…. Novak will carve a nice career….. I bet he will be a big-man version of Steve Kerr when done. Nothing special, just steady and can be relied on for a quick 3 when the stars of the team are swamped.

  20. David says:

    Mr. Schuhmann only forgets one thing: Ray Allen is old as hell! Last year was just painfully obvious he can’t compete in his position anymore. He’ll be lucky to get 5PPG…

  21. KOBE BRYANT says:

    if the thunder are 1000 times better than the celtics, then why didn’t the okc take the heat to game 7???? with an injured pierce and allen the celtics still manage to reach game 7. so celtics are better than the thunder

  22. MVD says:

    How many 3′s did Steve Novak hit again the Heat during their most recent playoff series? :D

  23. FOT232 says:

    Look i’m a Heat fan and everyone has to admit Heat look good but there are a lot of contenders for the title this year so everyone stop bitching about who will win just watch, wait and see who will take the title. You never know even the Bobcats could win ( i know its pretty much the most unlikely thing to happen in the NBA but there still is a chance even if it is the slimmest chance ever).

  24. Glenna Mugavero says:

    as if he didnt play with rondo

  25. W/E says:

    u ppl have to admit it,the Heat r the most stacked team in the league, they got too many players like ray allen who can win u playoff games with their shooting and r unstopable if they heat up,james jones,R.lewis,R.allen,shane battie,mike miller even mario chalmers these guys are very good 3 point shooters, their only weakness is that they got no decent offensive center but who needs him anyway with LBJ and Dwade… and bosh who can also shoot the 3point now

  26. dipset says:

    sellout

  27. jay says:

    A very dangerous team indeed. They will feed off each other. Love to watch my Heat roll over their opponents.. Kobe? The best rider (rides off the back of the best bigmen in the league and gets all the credit?) on the planet? Lets see how they will distribute the ball in LA. Either he will have to stay 2nd to Howard or LA will just be good on papers not on the basketball floor.

    • dragutin says:

      The second best player of all time does not need lectures from anyone he knows what he has to do to win.The Lakers never had a decent point guard in all of the Kobey years so Nash is like a dream come true he could only complement Brayant.And Howard is more of a defensive player than a ball hog like O’neil.He was forced to be an atacker in Orlando because of the lack of talent.In my opninion this is a great team that wil have great chemistry the only question is the level of juice they got since they are all a bit old and past their prime all exept Howard who is at his prime right about now.I stil think the Thunder are the best in the western conference because of their youth and superbly balanced starting lineup.

      • Francisco says:

        second best player of all time, what a joke, I am sorry bro , he does not have the STATS(facts) to prove it. REMEMBER CLOSEST THING TO JORDAN DOES NOT MEAN SECOND BEST PLAYER ALL TIME, JUST THE BEST COPY.

      • Califan says:

        Lack of talent in Orlando while Howard was there; How the heck did they make it to the finals then? Also you can say how bad Smush Parker was but there weren’t any stacked teams around (except maybe SAN who the Laker never played in the playoffs) so the fact that Kobe couldn’t get past the 1st round of the playoffs for three years speaks volumes about him as an overrated player.

  28. realHEATtalk says:

    How you like your poison!

  29. dragutin says:

    Alen is one of the best guards of the previos generation of players and in his prime he could do anything on the court and not just shot for 3pt.He is greatly overloked because he played his best years in bad teams like Milvoki and Seattle and even in his Boston days he vas geting older and started injuring a lot.Only Peja Stojakovic was a match for his shooting.NONE of the curent players can even touch those two.The Heat team is a lot stronger with him and all they need is a god center to rule the league for a milion years

  30. RAY THE GREATEST SHOOTER ALLEN says:

    NO DOUBT RAY IS VERY DANGEROUS IN 3 POINT LINE HE’S A MACHINE BRO!!! HEAT!!!!!!!!!

  31. Tmac01 says:

    Bunch of all stars in one team. Sounds boring. Like the NBA today.

    • GoMavz says:

      Tmac is already done. good for him, coz he can’t cope up with this now much more intense competition

      • Smitty says:

        The NBA has always been a bunch of stars on one team going back to wilts lakers with jerry west & baylor to russells celtics to the 80 celtics & showtime lakers.. even jordan had a top 50 player of all time on his team

  32. DHAM says:

    MAN IT’S REDICULOUS THAT GUYS LIKE MYTOWNLA ARE HOPING AND PRAYING THAT THE “CELTICS” BEAT THE HEAT SMH SINCE WHEN DID LAKERS FANS ROOT FOR THE CELTICS???. IT’S SO SAD AND PITIFUL TO SEE. JUST BE REALISTIC IT’S LEBRON’S TIME NOW NOT KOBE’S. EVEN KOBE’S GONE CRAZY WHY IS HE AWSERING THE MEDIA SAYING IT’S HIS TEAM, WE ALL KNOW THAT. IN ANY EVENT IM FROM L.A. BUT I KNOW WHO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE AND IT’S LEBRON. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE LAKERS AND HEAT CAUSE YOU NOTICE LEBRON’S NOT TALKING HE GONNA DO HIS THING ON THE COURT.

    • KOBE BRYANT says:

      2010 stupid!!! @DHAM

    • Mytownla says:

      Stfu and sit down retard im not rooting for the Celtics moron im only saying that since they were up on miami 3-2 in last years ECF, then they have a much better chance of beating them since they have IMPROVED this year with their new additions. Whats even more sad is ppl like you who say “Yea im from LA but i love riding Lebrons wang, im his number one cheerleader and i love me som Bron Bron yippppppeeeee”. And how in the world has Kobe gone crazy homie? You are beyond ignorant. Kobe is only asnwering the question that Craig decided to ask not jus him, but Nash, and Dwight as well, as far as whos team it is. He WAS ONLY ANSWERING WHAT WAS ASKED, so again, that doesnt make him crazy, idiot. Go read a book or some ish and educate yourself

  33. One says:

    I’m a Heat fan! A big Lebron fan! Reality is! Time will tell who wins this season! Who ever turns up on the day! Whether it be regular season or playoffs and whoever can stay injury-free. And even Lebron, Dwade and co realise this! Best of luck to all the teams! But I’m still cheering for the Heat!

  34. uzair saleem says:

    ray allen can nbajam

  35. Bob says:

    Ray Allen is a veteran All Star and has the career 3 point record. He will have more open looks at the rim than he ever had before this point. Can you compare Ray Allen with Mike Miller, Shane Battier, and James Jones? Ray is a killer. Given time, he will drill shots at a real high percentage. So, you will have to pick your poison, don’t double LeBron and D Wade or play Ray tight. The defense will collapse on LBJ and Wade.

  36. Karlo Garcia says:

    James & Allen just needs 2 b consistent & watch out!

  37. nbajam says:

    Ray Allen maybe the best 3pt shooter out there.. but he is not a good defensive player. He can’t guard Kobe, Wade, or any fast shooting guards.. If he’s on the floor defense will be the weakness of the Heat.. And we all know that no NBA TEAM has won the trophy with Offense only..

    • Jam says:

      @nbajam stupid comment really because obviously wade will be starting and ray will be rotating off the bench for wade so it matters very little if ray isnt as good a defender because wade will pick up the defensive states and the off the bench player (ray) will be racking up points

    • uoykcuf says:

      Wait a minute, ray ray has to guard wade?

  38. Well said John schu….. Keep up the good work for writing obvious articels. Lol
    @mytownla ya keep on dreaming son…. Funny how bulls fans, Celtic fans, Okc fans, spurs fans talked so much trash as to how the heat can’t beat their team and how they gonna destroy the heat in postseason n then after June they just shut their big mouth up.. Now la la land fans are partying n talking smack that lakers is gonna win n nobody can beat them , well news flash OKC is very hungry n looking for revenge for loosing in the final.. There’s only two championships teams are Heats and Thunder n rest of the teams n their fans keep on dreaming becuz reality will hit u in the face…..
    Can’t wait for this season to start because every team is motivated n ready to show the world they got ballzzzzzzzz….
    Gaaaah!

    • Mytownla says:

      Newsflash for you Mr… You made it obvious to the world with your comment that you have NO highschool diploma, or English was your most disliked subject. Just so you know, moron, there are more than two teams who have a major chance in making it to the Finals, son! And if your just going to be set on believing that next years finals is OKC vs Heat, then maybe its YOU who should keep on dreamng as you say. Me, as a Laker fan, and an even bigger bsetball fan, can admit that OKC is very hungry,and that they posses a very good cance to re-peat as the Western Conference champs, but also, the Celtics can put thierselves in another position where they are up 3-2 against your precious Heat in the ECF, and this time it could be a different result, with the additions of Terry, Hollins, Lee, and the return of Green. So wake up fool. You most liekly fit the profile of those Heat cheerleaders who have only been fans for the past two years anyway, so sit down and stfu

  39. LKG says:

    firs of all. i hate lebron. sorry for that, but for me miami heat is a very strong team now, they are going to be the team to beat. so watchout.. ray allen is the greatest 3 pointer ever but he is old now, novak is still young unlike ray. for now when we talk about three pointin’ i’ll go for novak. if you saw the the last game of the knicks novak is 7for7 beyond the arc. But still ray allen is still the best three point killer ever. LETS JUST WAIT FOR THE KNICKS VS. HEAT GAME AND WATCH WHO WILL BE THE BETTER three POINTER!!!!!

  40. MJ fan says:

    all i want is in the eastern conference finals will be celtics vs. heat. terry vs. allen. bosh vs. garnett. james vs.peirce
    bradley vs. wade. lewis vs. green. this thing will be unforgetable

  41. SensibleScot says:

    Ray Allen IS the best 3 point shooter of all time. No debate. If he just stood on the 3ptline all game like Novak, I’m sure his stats would be even better. Ray has an all round game and gets all kind of 3 point shots, not just spot ups like dattebayo says.

    I think it’s going to be scary to see the Heat at times this season, with 4 of the best 3 pt shooters in the game, Allen, Lewis, Miller & Battier. They all have more game than Novak! Lets not forget Chalmers can knock down a few too, Cole and of course James Jones who is more similar to Novak in terms of ability.

    And of course I forgot to mention the big 3 silly me. I hate the Heat!!! Bring back the Sonics!

    • KOBE BRYANT says:

      @sensiblescot….hahahahahahah! you make me laugh,,,:D 4 of the best 3pts. shooters LEWIS is no longer a threat 3pts. BATTIER only had one good night at the 3pts. you already know when is that. ALLEN still good. MILLER same as lewis. so overall ALLEN is the only player “YOU” mentioned in the miami heat who is still a threat……forgot chalmers?

  42. STEVEO says:

    Novac will never reach Ray level. Novac is a 3points shooter Ray is another level. I think that it is vrey naive to compare a legend with a below average player.

  43. Jowell says:

    kobe never struggled??? hahaha could anyone here bring kobes field goal precentages up? he is just a ball hog dont you fanatics ever bring up his name alongside the great jordan ever again. such idiots

    • heat 2012-2013 champs again says:

      these young kids know nothing about basketball…they never seen jordan and have barely seen kobe which is why their ignorance shouldnt even be mentioned. kobe is nowhere near jordan and will never be

      • Mytownla says:

        its actually YOUR ignorance thats getting in the way of learning when we basketball fans are trying to teach you some things. like the fact that there is a better life than always having Lebrons Diiiick lodged in your throat. And for your information, Kobe isnt jordan, but he IS the closet to Jordan, since Jordan, not your precious Bron Bron. Jordan didnt have to flop like Bron Bron did in this past finals. You dilusional heat cheerleaders need to snap back to reality, i mean 89% of yall wasnt even fans 2 years ago, aka the fakest fans in sports history!

  44. Heat2Beat says:

    It’s funny you should say so because I find it interesting that for guys who can’t shoot the ball as excellent as Kobe and Jordan. they can still score on defenses AT WILL. So that makes me think hmmmmm, what about these guys makes them considerably one of the best? Maybe its because they are game changers and can demand points at will? NO! Maybe they can still shoot the ball good enough and create that inside outside threat like other players can’t? NO! Maybe they play both ends of the court just as good as Jordan and maybe better than Kobe can? NO! Well you please do tell me what makes these guys so great and considered one of the best if it’s not any of the above mentioned statements. Because last time i checked between these two players there are 3 championships, 2 Finals MVP’s, scoring titles, and the list goes on @TTKIN

  45. 0917vince says:

    what is wrong with you people??? comparing ray allen to steve novak? im sure you know better. wake up y’all! start watching games please and stop staring at those stats! coach eric said it himself, “no other player strikes fear to the opposing team…”, and that sure ain’t novak. so until novak scares you everytime he catches the ball off the curl after running his defender off every other player on the court and you’re still left hoping he misses even if he’s been missing all night; then we’ll talk.

    p.s. no matter what team he’s on, bucks, sonics, celtics or heat! so stop hatin’ and stop comparing him to novak, have some respect please!

  46. who says:

    all those heat haters and lakers fans they need sumthing better 2 do.always sayin ridiculous stuff!

  47. dattebayo says:

    So Allen and James are a perfect fit? I believe Pat Riley is somewhere saying: Duh!
    Ray Allen is such a nice addition to the Heat because he is a guy that doesn’t always just stand around waiting for the ball. The Heat are much more dangerous with ball and player movement and Ray Allen could really influence that and change the culture a little.

    And could those Knick fans please watch some tape of last playoffs. Novak was practically ineffective because he is a poor defender and he barely got shots up. His regular season percentages may have been better last year when comparing him to Allen, but he only takes wide open threes. Ray Allen takes turnaround jumpshots, threes off the dribble, he runs himself free of screens and he can post up. Novak can’t do anything if he gets the ball with a defender on him and that’s the reason he was ineffective in the playoffs and the reason why he will never be better than Ray Allen. Sometimes you can’t just look at a number to find out who is a better player, sometimes you just have to watch them play.

    • Heat2Beat says:

      Couldn’t say it better myself bro…….If he is such a great 3pt player why struggle when it matters the most. Ray Allen is a threat whether on Heat, Bulls or Minnesota because he can hit 3′s open and contested.

    • RocBoy says:

      Agreed!! People just want a reason to hate without even attempting to find FACTS!!

    • Average Joe says:

      Great points all.

    • Letswaintandsee says:

      Thank-you, someone who actually knows something about basketball

  48. HeatKingsofEast says:

    hahahaha! i’m sure many watch the pre-season game of nyk here that’s why they are delusional to say novak is the best in 3points right now. lol! and to say he had been the best 3pointer in the nba for 3yrs? let me ask you this: if he is that good why is it he don’t get invited in the 3point contest in nba all-star? another, if he is that good why is it the spurs cut him? (don’t ever question the coaching staff of spurs, they are the best in the league) and lastly, just check his stats here at nba.com in players section. and if i were to compare him to another player, let’s say ryan anderson, at least ryan anderson got an invite on the all-star and been recognize through his 3point shooting. don’t say it’s bias because they’re both american. smh! (no need to compare to ray allen, it’s like comparing nigeria to american basketball. hahahaha)

  49. TTKIN says:

    I like the last part of the article, “…and limit his own jumpers…” Same could be said about Wade. I still cant bring myself to say Lebron is the best and Wade is one of the best when both of them struggle with jump shots. MJ never struggled with his jump shot, Kobe never struggled (for extended periods of time). That being said, Im a hgue Ray Allen fan, so im not here to bash the Heat, just guys who are considered Gods when theyre not.

    • heat 2012-2013 champs again says:

      ummm actually mj didnt develop a reliable jumper till late in his career, why does everyone forget that…

    • Califan says:

      LMAO Kobe and Jordan are also on the top 10 list of players with the most shots missed ever! (Jordan #6 and Kobe #5)

  50. dubs says:

    That makes a nice story, but you’re just being dumb for writing the whole season before it even starts. You’re like those heat fans that gave the Heat the trophy b4 their first season.

  51. DR fan says:

    I hate this “objective” fans over here, I’m a lebron fan, but either way, I know that it will be hard to beat LA, to tough on paper, and it will be hard for OCK to fall again, but the season hasn’t even started…. be freaking objective, the heats has the best chances to get to the nba finals than any other team in the east, but the west looks to difficult for anybody, and as a Lebron fan, I can be objective enough to notice that

    • MHM 35 says:

      As a Lakers fan, I’m more concerned about the superstars Nash and Kobe staying healthy, and Dwight (who’s in his prime years but has a bad back) getting healthy. Heat and C’s and Nets only have OKC to answer to in the Finals if LAL doesn’t get everyone on board and in sync.

  52. sdh says:

    keep hatin’ on the reigning CHAMPS !!!! I love it….can’t wait til they HEAT-PEAT and ur teams are murked….

    • Jonesy37 says:

      @sdh, even as a Celtics fan I have to admit you made the best point of anyone here. They are the reigning champs. And this article was about how they have made themselves even better with Allen on board. It pains me to say this, but I think everyone needs to watch out for a repeat. damn damn damn

      • MHM 35 says:

        yeah at least he got it right a lot of Heat fans I run into say “Two Peat”. “Heat Peat” sounds stupid as hell too but oh well I still have to agree Miami has only gotten better

    • uoykcuf says:

      We all know they are still the champ until someone else dethrone them. And they did upgrade and will be a much better team. So does the lakers, and you cannot forget the aging celtics, SA, and the upcoming OKC.

  53. drick says:

    Ray is the greatest 3pt shooter of all time..juz accept the reality…

  54. Mytownla says:

    All of you heat cheerleaders prepare to drop your pom poms once you loose to the C’s and get eliminated in the ECF… Its kinda sad you dont have the privalege to be defeated by LA but things happen, and you have to accept that lost, try not to crawl into you’re corners and cry a river, it’ll be ok… Once Kobe retires, your precious Miami cHeat wll have a chance once again. I kno how upset and butthurt Bron Bron must be now that the anti-flopping rule is in effect, but he cant complain, just play real, physical basketball. And to your boy Chris Bosh, he is going to have problems when philly is in town, since hes to fragile to guard Drew. I mean seiously, that boy bosh is softer than a cupcake with the rainbow sprinkles on it, so if he cant slow down, Drew, Brook, or Roy, what kind of problems do you expect him to run in when the purple and gold are in your city, or when your visitin the westside? Awww… Heat cheerleaders are secretly afraid… lmao!!!!

    • pakyaw says:

      blah blah blah…LAKERS need to past 2nd round first!….hahahhaha

    • MakaveliDaDon says:

      U r really funny man :)

    • Not a lakers fan says:

      OKC is 1000 times better then the celtics and last time i checked the heat beat them….what you got jason terry? 2008 celtics are gone, get over it.

      • heat 2012-2013 champs again says:

        lol troll…no one can touch the heat plain and simple…too much firepower

      • Kamote says:

        please don’t change your name because you have the guts to just say the C’s are over this season… see you at the playoffs LBJ fangirl LOL… remember my name dawg :)… balls man… just balls after this season :)

      • KOBE BRYANT says:

        @heat losers of 2012-2013 LMFAO….to much power??? does your team has enough power to beat the guys like HOWARD,DREW,HIBBERT,THE GASOL BROTHERS,LOVE,B LOPEZ,CHANDLER AND EVEN THABBEAT AND PERKINS ETC… SIMPLE ANSWER NO!!! so don’t say that your team has to much power beacuse in reallity they aren’t

      • KOBE BRYANT says:

        if the thunder are 1000 times better than the celtics, then why didn’t the okc take the heat to game 7???? with and injured pierce and allen? so celtics are better than the thunder

      • mannyfresh209 says:

        If the Heat couldn’t deal with the Center position, how in the world did they win the NBA Championship?

        Went through Roy Hibbert with Bosh OUT OF THE WHOLE SERIES – 1 HALF. They beat the Celtics, with a healthy KG playing lights out. The beat the Knicks with Chandler. They beat the Thunder with Perkins and Ibaka.

        Who else do they have to beat before people like you realize that they have figured out a method to being great without having a traditional Center. Get over it.

    • Califan says:

      Last time I checked the Heat OWNED the Lackers for the past two seasons lol.

    • MHM 35 says:

      ok i’m a lakers fan and that long stupid comment about Miami losing sounded stupid. Wow….

    • Francisco says:

      are you ten years old?. I want kobe to stay so as long he is a laker, no more rings for the farrrrrr away copy of mike.

    • miamiboy says:

      thast funny cause miami has hit up the cetics 2 years in row and now one of best players is with the heat

    • uoykcuf says:

      I stop reading after pom pom, another laketard. It will be sweet to see all the laketards blame D, coward when he choked.

  55. Anonymous says:

    lol you guys are funny, if Ray went to some other team he won’t be the best anything but now because he’s in Heat and LBJ is in Heat, he is now mighty. Let’s see how he holds up for the rest of the season, I bet y’all will be changing your story

    • Kamote says:

      another kid just learned to how watch TV LOL… Rayray has been the greatest 3pt marksman even before LBJ entered middle school… just shows you know nothing about basketball and its history, you’re nothin’ but just some school girl who has a crush on LBJ LOL

    • Crazyc502 says:

      No it not becuz play for heat don’t matter what team ray Allen play for he best 3 point as alway

    • uoykcuf says:

      Let’s see, rayray was the original big three with Sam and big dog in Milwaukee. lead them to east conf finals. After that he lead the sonics with flip and lewis to conf semi. Well, as you MUST have know, the big three in Boston won a chip. So bascially a ring, 10 all-stars , all-time 3pts leader, 3pt shootout champ.
      Need anything else?

  56. david says:

    nba is just the best getting on there knee’s and kissing the feet of the heat and lebron and who ever is on the heat team

  57. Sabgren says:

    What about Kyle Korver, Bruno?

  58. bruno says:

    Steve Novak is and has been the best 3 point shooter for several years…

    • david says:

      i agree he been outplaying allen on 3 points for awhile now

      • King Flash! says:

        You guys are a joke… You’re basing the ‘best 3 point shooter’ on someone’s %’s for the last 2-3 seasons…

        Where does Novak stand on the all time list, how many shots is he expected to take, how many defenses plan around Novak.

        Ray Allen is the best 3 point pure shooter, as he demands the respect & attention on the floor. I’m sure EVERY TEAM would rather Novak have his 12ppg (on a good day) & watch Melo & Stat flounder offensively, as usual.

        This year, Ray will have one of his most efficient seasons ever. He’ll have more space, more energy, less attention/focus on him, an athletic back court & some of the best ball movement in the league.

        RECOGNIZE!

    • kILLarifIC says:

      I just made that same comment to my buddy about 3 hrs ago. Novak is definetly the best pure 3 point shooter in the league today

    • Emmanuel Stalling says:

      A pointless observation, if you notice how the article never refers to Allen as the best three point shooter in the NBA TODAY, but the best 3 point shooter in HISTORY.

    • Not 2, not 3, not 4... says:

      Steve Novak couldn’t get a shot off in the playoff last year against Miami; since he can only shoot against mediocre defence. In the other hand, Ray Allen can shoot against anybody and even limping during last year playoffs he shot better than Novack. You should be ashame to compare Ray Allen to a 4.9 career point average wannabe.
      Been outplaying him for awhile now?
      HAHAHA…

    • Califan says:

      That’s great…Allen is arguably the best 3point shooter in history. Novak will never get to the status of Allen or
      Reggie…

    • Team NO Sleep says:

      YEA BUT ALLEN DOESNT GET SHUT DOWN LIKE NOVAK DOES

      • E-SY says:

        Correct… because it’s dead-easy to shut down Novak!
        To hunt down Ray Allen is a different story. He can take those 3′s on the move and… why are we in this discussion?! We are comparing Ray Allen to Steve No-body… a waste of time…

      • uoykcuf says:

        lol, please tell me you’all are trolling. Compare Novak to Shuttleworth? It’s like compare matt bonner to reggie!

    • neo says:

      come back when steve novak wins the 3point shootout. :)