The D-Will, Cuban Feud … Real Beef Or Much Ado About Nothing?

 

HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – In the history of NBA beefs, this budding Deron Williams-Mark Cuban dust-up could rank as one of our all-time favorites for being much ado about absolutely nothing.

Seriously, by the time Williams issued his “No-Cuban/Mavericks-Questions-Ever” edict to the reporters who followed the saga to the Brooklyn Nets’ practice Wednesday:

“Don’t even ask me about Mark Cuban. I’m not gonna answer any questions about the Dallas Mavericks or Mark Cuban for the rest of the year. Even when we go play Dallas or they come here, I’m not answering questions about the Dallas Mavericks.”

The pulse on this scrap was already fading.

Williams lit the flame Monday when he mentioned to many of those same reporters that Cuban might have helped sway his free-agency decision had Cuban attended the face-to-face recruiting pitch in July.

At first glance it didn’t seem like he was throwing darts at the Mavericks’ owner in particular, but that’s the way it played out:

“I think (Cuban) would have been able to answer a lot of the questions me and my agent have for him that really didn’t get answered that day pertaining to the future,” Williams told reporters. “And I think if he was there he would have been able to answer those questions a little bit better. It maybe would have helped me.

“(I wanted to hear about) the direction of the future of the team, other than Dirk [Nowitzki]. Players they were thinking about. Everything was basically just their track record, trust their track record, which is, you know, I can honor that, because they do have a good track record but it’s not enough for me, especially when (Nets general manager Billy King) was updating me daily.”

The Mavericks, in Spain for their European preseason excursion, got wind of what Williams said. Cuban, never one to hold back, responded in kind:

“I’m a big D-Will fan, but I’m kind of surprised that he would throw his front office under the bus like that by saying that I would make a difference,” Cuban said before the Mavericks’ game against FC Barcelona Regal. “I would have expected him to say — like I’d expect one of our guys to say — ‘Hey I’m so thrilled with the front office and the moves we made and our team that it wouldn’t have mattered what he did.'”

For the record, the Mavericks’ recruiting contingent consisted of coach Rick Carlisle, president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson and former Mavericks star Michael Finely, who is now a part of the front office staff. So it’s not like they sent folks Williams wouldn’t recognize as authority figures for the franchise or guys who wouldn’t be intimately involved with what’s going on with the team’s future.

Still, for a guy who grew up in suburban Dallas, as Williams did, we can understand why Cuban’s presence at recruiting sit down would have been so important. The fact that Cuban was in California at the time taping an episode of his TV show, “Shark Tank,” was clearly viewed negatively by Williams (although, we can’t be sure since he’s not even taking, let alone answering, any questions about Cuban and the Mavericks).

It’s easy to see how something so simple could get turned upside down in today’s Twitter world, where one statement relayed via social media gets blown out of proportion before anyone’s had a chance to examine the context of the situation.

Things turned out for both sides. The Mavericks revamped their roster for this season and will dive back into free agency next summer looking to land another All-Star to play alongside Nowitzki. And the Nets, with the revamped roster King promised, are gracing magazine covers and have people buzzing from coast to coast about the new power rising in Brooklyn.

As much as we’d love to fan the flames on this one, this faux feud between Cuban and Williams is headed to an early grave here at the hideout. Both sides have much more pressing matters to tend to anyway.

32 Comments

  1. Richard Savage says:

    wow i didnt know they had that much talent on their squad… i knew brook lopez, joe johnson, humphries, and of course d- will. I didnt know they bought wallace, blachte, and a few others on board. They could be right there in that 4 or 5th seed

  2. dattebayo says:

    I don’t understand these people. D-Will signed in Brooklyn, that means he’d rather play there and not in Dallas or the Nets promised him more support in the future and that kinda stuff. Now that he has his contract, why is he even starting this discussion and dissing Cuban for not making more of an effort? Is he pissed about having to sign in Brooklyn?

    Personally I’d rather have Collison and Mayo instead of Williams, but the Mavericks are not a team better off with Kaman and Brand. Kobe is on his way out and the Lakers went all out and put an even better team around him. Now that Dirk finally got his ring, All Cuban did was give away talent, sign worse talent short term for less money and hold out for great talent that isn’t coming. Brand, Kaman and Dirk are all capable scorers but they are old, slow and poor defenders that will not challenge shots at the rim consistently or effectively. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dallas only becomes the 7th seed again or doesn’t even make the playoffs.

  3. bbhoggen says:

    Both teams LOST! Plain and simple. I’ll start with the Nets. Revamped roster? Joe Johnson and some bench players is hardly the revamped roster King promised. New “power” rising in Brooklyn? Again, last years terrible team with Joe Johnson and a few bench players is hardly a power, that’s completely ridiculous. I know the NBA is pushing a rivalry in New York but it’s absurd. If you believe this, then I’ve got Ocean Front property in Arizona I’ll sell you.

    On to Dallas… it’s the same thing as Brooklyn… they too swung and missed and now are doing a public relations spin. Even heard Cuban say they’re better now than they’d be if they got D-Will. lol… It gets absurd, especially with so many sheep eating up the P.R. propaganda. Some of you will literally believe anything. They brought in O.J. Mayo and some over the hill veterans, WAY, WAY, past their prime. Yeah, that’s an obvious win. Who needs D-Will or Dwight Howard when you can get Elton Brand and Chris Kaman right? Makes sense. Again, I’ve got Ocean front property in Arizona, I’ll sell it to you real cheap.

  4. bbhoggen says:

    Both teams LOST! Plain and simple. I’ll start with the Nets. Revamped roster? Joe Johnson and some bench players is hardly the revamped roster King promised. New “power” rising in Brooklyn? Again, last years terrible team with Joe Johnson and a few bench players is hardly a power, that’s completely ridiculous. I know the NBA is pushing a rivalry in New York but it’s absurd. If you believe this, then I’ve got Ocean Front property in Arizona I’ll sell you.

    On to Dallas… it’s the same thing as Brooklyn… they too swung and missed and now are doing a public relations spin. Even heard Cuban say they’re better now than they’d be if they got D-Will. lol… It gets absurd, especially with so many sheep eating up the P.R. propaganda. Some of you will literally believe anything. They brought in O.J. Mayo and some over the hill veterans, WAY, WAY, past their prime. Yeah, that’s an obvious win. Who needs D-Will or Dwight Howard when you can get Elton Brand and Chris Kaman right? Makes sense. Again, I’ve got Ocean front property in Arizona, I’ll sell it to you real cheap.

    • Simdawg says:

      The difference in the team will be night and day. Crash only played a handful of games last year, Lopex missed all but 5, another year into Brooks, D-will free agent saga over. Add JJ, Blatche, teletovic, Watson, Childress, Evans.

      Williams will have his best season yet.

  5. Mr. real says:

    Cuban is not insane/stupid. He just became more practical after winning his first championship. high salary players are not the main solution for a struggling teams, like the mavericks’ roster that win it all in 2011. He is the most exciting basketball fan.

  6. nbaspecter says:

    Cuban is an idiot, always mouthing off at players who are doing nothing too him. He is far too arrogant and despite liking much of the Mavs team, I tend to root against them simply because of Cuban’s idiocy.

    He is damaging the reputation of the team that were considered heroes for their clinical display to win a ring, and should really think before he opens his unnecessarily large mouth.

    • GoMavz says:

      Just the fact that he is a billionaiare himself, he can alsways look for another sports or business but he always put his finances in this league. C’mmon mr. cuban! spice up the NBA, spend more, build another power house (before nowizki ends) in the western conference and make the competition much more intense.

  7. Mr. real says:

    Mark cuban is a true basketball fan, not just an owner. He just love the game. Dallas will probably trade players before the trade deadline and will reach 2nd round in the playoofs. But Brooklyn nets’ loaded roster looks like “lakers” of the east… can’t wait.

    • DoctorK says:

      Lakers from the East !!!! That is sacriledge, no comparaison stands !!!!! Nash vs D Will, Experience and team oriented vs youth and still looking to make someone better. D12 vs Lopez, Undersised force of nature vs lenghty fragile ballerine, Kobe vs JJ, clutch, grit and IQ vs self, overevaluated ordinary, lenghty 2. Pau Vs Hypnosed Kardashian, From the elbow finess team payer vs physique, clueless rebounding robot. Metta Vs Crash, cazy, glue, absorbed, defensive, role player vs wild, soon to be hurt, undefined role wanabe allstar.

      • Simdawg says:

        Only time will tell, but if you are going to compare the starting 5… Nets are better at PG & SF, no doubt. And Marshon is the best player coming off the bench for either team.

  8. Henry says:

    ain’t no beef to see here; let’s bring back the Deshawn Stevenson/Lelbron beef instead, that was always funny.

  9. ThisIsSilly says:

    It’s not as if Prokhorov or Jay-Z were sitting down with D-Will. It was their GM, and honestly, Donnie Nelson is historically a much more successful GM than King.

  10. KOBE BRYANT says:

    Cuban is stupid, they have a good pice last year to repeat and he just let them go!!?? THE MOST STUPID OWNER

  11. Nnnnnnnnnn the Last Words are Both party r loooooossseeeerrrrrrrr, esp. Cuban…… D-will u didnt make any smart choice either, man seriously nets wtf??? Theres so many contender team n ur choice is Nets n u wasting ur prime years on a team who will only go into playoff n thats …. yaaah good luck both of them need it….
    Gaaaah!

  12. I find the exodus of guards from Dallas hilarious. Jet Terry and JKidd left Cuban’s Mavs this year. If you’re signing a franchise player, you have to sit down with the guy. If he was signing Dirk, I think he would have rescheduled either the interview or the show taping. Now, in the wake of, DWill’s comments, Cuban is trying to paint the picture that he’s not to blame for DWill going to the Nets. I think he was going to sign in his hometown and wanted to play with Jason Kidd based on his comments. He just wanted to know what the future looked like for him when Dirk eventually hangs it up. If he would have traded Dirk for Shaq, he would have had a championship sooner. If he would have kept Nash and Van Exel, he might have won the chip that year too. Now, he missed out on the most productive point guard in the league because he wanted face time on a reality show.

  13. Tomahawk Jones says:

    Hulk SMASH!!!!!!!

  14. Cup Cakes!!!!!! says:

    nevermind any of that he there and we here. just the way it is. if you got chololate frosting and vanilla cupcakes, and they dont match up, well, it just like what we see here. just dont work that way. GOOD LUCK TO BOTH TEAMS!

    • Mytownla says:

      Why it gotta be chocolate and vanilla? Why cant they co-xist and just get along? You dont see us black ppl complaining about the milk being white and not black, but now that the monkey is out of the bottle, ppl wanna say whites always liked the snow and thought it was beautiful. What if snow was black, would you be rolling in it tryna make a snow angel then? When i sit my black cheeks on that white toilet seat, i wonder what life would be like if that toilet paper was black, or if black eyed peas were known as white eyed peas… This racism needs to stop yall, why do you think smokey the bear retired, seriously.

      • Michael Bromley says:

        Dude, someone mentions cupcake frosting and you go throwin out the racism labels? Grow up!!!

  15. Bijan Sharifi says:

    Tbh i don’t know why D-Will is saying that Mark Cuban might have influenced his decision is he was there, i don’t think it would of made a difference and Cuban knew that, if a player wants to play for a team, esp his home town, its either this team or that, i love what D-Will brings to the floor and hes a top player, but if he really wanted to play for the Mavericks then he would of. i think he just wanted more money, and i dont know why he said that he didn’t want to be the single player if Dirk went down injured, he wanted more people there, look at Brooklyn, what happens if Joe Johnson goes down injured??? i wouldnt rely on G.Wallace or Brook to do so much, Dallas would have had people, Joe Johnson isnt some fresh young leg either, hes old as well and if you look back at the last 5 years i bet Dirk had played more games then Joe Johnson.

    • chigchig says:

      I get your thinking..
      but Joe is still younger then Dirk by a few years (hes 30, dont really consider that old as hell), the number of games is almost identical.. i think in playoffs its 1 game in dirks favour and in the reg season its 5 games..
      plus if Joe does go down then you bring in your high draft pick marshon brooks who dwill already has a year with.

      imo i think on paper nets are better top to bottom.. no doubt dirk is better then anyone on the nets but there next best player is marion..

  16. 34yr fan says:

    …I meant….’fewed’

  17. 34yr fan says:

    ….ahhhh, another ‘fued’ between Mark C……… and….fill in the blank !!! He’s a joke, an well worth the laugh!!

  18. Mytownla says:

    Mark Cuban is such a weenie. No wonder why D-Will has no respect for that dude. He still fails to understand why the majority of the players in the league are not to fond of his crybaby like ways, alwasy disrespecting ppl. D-Will didnt throw nobody in his front office under the bus, thats just another way for Queerban to talk his ish. I wanted to slap the guy myself when i found out that he had called David Sperm and complained about CP3 suiting up in purple nd gold, thus somewhat swaying his decision to nix the trade. I cant wait to see how his precious mav become unsuccessful after Dirk retires

  19. wooderson says:

    is mark cuban trying to be a unnecessary bastard or is he actually just that unbelievably unintelligent to the point where he has a serious head injury? williams wasnt saying the nets front office did a bad job or anything he was saying they were much much better than the mavs and there was no chance he was joining the mavs because of cubans negligence and the mavs front office being idiotic and incompetent like cuban himself.

  20. TTKIN says:

    Williams’ team is set up for the future, Cuban’s doesnt look exceptional this year, but it still looks good, and theyll have a ton of cap room for next offseason. Both sides are setup, no biggie. thats why neither cares that much.