James’ Numbers Stand Alone





LeBron James is a unique player, not just in regard to his skill set, but also in regard to the numbers he puts up. Few players through the years have been able to match the combination of points, rebounds and assists that James records on a nightly basis. And even fewer have been able to do it while scoring so efficiently.

In his second postseason with the Heat, with Chris Bosh having missed half of the team’s 12 games, James has increased his scoring and rebounding to numbers reminiscent of his days in Cleveland. Through Game 1 of the conference finals, James is averaging 29.3 points, 9.1 rebounds and 5.7 assists.

Those numbers have only been achieved three other times in NBA history. And James is responsible for two of those other occurrences, in 2009 and 2010, his last two seasons with the Cavs.

Oscar Robertson is responsible for the other one, averaging 31.8 points, 13.0 rebounds and 9.0 assists over 12 games in the 1963 postseason. But if you throw in one more qualifier — 50 percent shooting — Robertson, who shot 47 percent that year, drops out. And all you’re left with is three James postseasons.

For James, the difference between last postseason and this one is more than just Bosh’s absence. Right after Game 1 of the first round, when Bosh was still very healthy, James explained.

“I’m a different player this year,” he said. “I’m a different person this year.”

The difference is a comfort level with his teammates and with the Heat’s system. And it helps that the Heat aren’t under the microscope quite as much as they were in their first year together.

“There was more pressure felt last year,” James said.

James’ coach and teammates have noticed a difference in the MVP.

“I see his comfort level with our group,” Erik Spoelstra said. “He is more vocal than he was last year. And that’s natural, coming to a new franchise, new players, new teammates. But he’s been able to step forward more as a vocal leader to our guys.”

Interestingly, Spoelstra sees James as more mature and “a lot more serious about what we have ahead.” Yet Mike Miller, James’ teammate and friend, sees it a little differently.

“He seems a lot more loose, enjoying himself,” Miller said of James. “That’s the only way he can play basketball.”

Whether he’s looser, more serious or both, James is putting up big numbers, the kind that only he can match.

Here’s a look at players who have averaged at least 25 points, eight rebounds and five assists, while shooting at least 50 percent over a minimum of 12 postseason games…

Postseason average of at least 25 PPG, 8 RPG, 5 APG & 50% shooting

Player Team Season G FGM FGA FG% Reb RPG Ast APG Pts PPG
Larry Bird BOS 1983-84 23 229 437 52.4% 252 11.0 136 5.9 632 27.5
Charles Barkley PHI 1985-86 12 104 180 57.8% 189 15.8 67 5.6 300 25.0
Larry Bird BOS 1985-86 18 171 331 51.7% 168 9.3 148 8.2 466 25.9
LeBron James CLE 2008-09 14 159 312 51.0% 128 9.1 102 7.3 494 35.3
LeBron James CLE 2009-10 11 106 211 50.2% 102 9.3 84 7.6 320 29.1
LeBron James MIA 2011-12 12 126 251 50.2% 109 9.1 68 5.7 351 29.3

Minimum 12 games

The closest Michael Jordan came to making the list was in 1989-90, when he averaged 36.7 points, 7.2 rebounds and 6.8 assists, while shooting 51.4 percent in 16 games.

Magic Johnson averaged 25 points in only one postseason, 1989-90. But he too was short on the rebounds (6.3), and played in only nine games that year. He also shot just below 50 percent.

Wilt Chamberlain twice averaged more than five assists in a postseason, in 1966-67 and ’67-68 with the Sixers. But in neither postseason did he average 25 points.

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As good as James’ teams have been over the years, they’ve never been so dominant with him on the floor as the Heat have been in these playoffs. Miami has been outscored by five points in 90 minutes with James on the bench, but the Heat have outscored their opponents by almost 15 points per 100 possessions when he’s been in the game.

LeBron James’ postseason on-court team efficiency

Season Team GP MIN OffRtg DefRtg NetRtg +/-
2005-06 CLE 13 604 100.0 104.9 -4.9 -49
2006-07 CLE 20 893 101.0 96.2 +4.8 +71
2007-08 CLE 13 552 103.3 98.7 +4.6 +66
2008-09 CLE 14 580 108.8 100.3 +8.5 +122
2009-10 CLE 11 460 107.5 102.3 +5.3 +44
2010-11 MIA 21 922 104.5 102.4 +2.1 +29
2011-12 MIA 12 486 106.9 92.2 +14.7 +128

OffRtg = Points scored per 100 possessions
DefRtg = Points allowed per 100 possessions
NetRtg = Point differential per 100 possessions

James is shooting fewer threes than he has in any postseason, and shooting them pretty poorly (10-for-41, 24 percent). But he’s making up for that by getting into the paint more often. For the first time in his career, he has taken more than half of his postseason shots from the paint.

LeBron James’ postseason shots in the paint

Season FGM FGA FG% %FGA
2005-06 95 141 67.4% 45.9%
2006-07 98 176 55.7% 44.1%
2007-08 68 109 62.4% 39.6%
2008-09 87 136 64.0% 43.6%
2009-10 63 101 62.4% 47.9%
2010-11 101 173 58.4% 46.4%
2011-12 85 130 65.4% 51.8%

%FGA = Percentage of total field goal attempts

About 35 percent of James’ shots are coming from the restricted area, where he’s shooting an incredible 75.3 percent (67-for-89). Only one player who has attempted at least 25 shots from the restricted area in this postseason has been better: Dwyane Wade, who’s 55-for-70 (78.6 percent).

120 Comments

  1. RealBasketballFan says:

    Stuff like this tries to take stats and use them to make players look greater than they are. If you change the numbers to 30 5 and 5 or 25 10 and 5 you can add and take away so many players from the list. ts just playing with numbers. Hope its fun.

  2. Kanishk says:

    If LeBron won his rings in Cleveland he’d be considered in that top 5-6 all time category which I personally think will be Magic, MJ, Bird, Duncan, Wilt , Kobe ; by the time Kobe and Duncan are done.

    Is Lebron as good as those guys when it comes to talent? Yes. But those guys lost too, those guys played on bad teams too. But they had the heard of a champion and stayed with their teams through all the moments, both good and bad. But they weren’t cowards and they didn’t quit on their teams like LeBron did. I never saw Kobe saying, Hey Steve , Hey Tim, I can’t beat you guys right now. What say, shall we team up?

    It isn’t like that, James doesn’t have that competitive spirit the rest of them have. He chose the easy way out.

    PERIOD.

  3. bobbyj says:

    Lebron also leads the league in playoffs in 4TH QUARTER SCORING……….

  4. The Master says:

    Kobe Bryant is no Scott Williams dude! He was a key piece in all of those championships! Just like your Lebron James will be if he wins a championship! And rings are important to a legacy! Do you think for one minute that MJ would be even close to as great as he is if he won no championships! Even if he had the same numbers and the same game! Think about it!

  5. RayRay20 says:

    As much as I hate LeBron and the Heat, I have to admit that this man is one of the greatest basketball players I have ever seen. Whenever I watch the Heat play (admittedly rooting for the other team to win), I’m always stunned and amazed by the kinds of plays Lebron Wade can come up with. However, at all those saying he’s the only player of this generation to crack into the Top 10 of all time, I believe you’re missing some fundamentals here. A Big Fundamental by the name of Tim Duncan. And noone except MJ in history has matched Kobe’s competitiveness to win a game. If you’re going to deny these two a chance, you’re obviously a blind Heat bandwagoner who only sees through the narrow view of the “Not 1. Not 2. Not 3.” scope. I bet most of the current Heat “fans” don’t even know the last time they won a Championship or how many they’ve won without Googling it.

    Back on topic, LeBron is undoubtedly the best player of this generation. Notice that I say THIS generation, with Kobe Bryant obviously ruling over the last one and Michael Jordan reigning supreme in the previous. Like I said, as much as I am of a LeBron hater, I can’t deny him his due. The numbers back that up. Now let’s see if he can also back it up with rings.

  6. GetYourInfoRight says:

    JAMES IS THE BEST PLAYER SINCE MICHAEL JORDAN THERE’S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT NOTICE I DIDN’T SAY BEST WINNER BECAUSE THAT’S A TEAM EFFORT AN HE HASN’T QUITE HAD THAT SORT OF LUCK BUT AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL PLAY GOES NO BODY IN THIS GENERATION CAN TOP HIM HES ONLY BESTED BY JORDAN HIMSELF AN MAY EVEN OUT DO HIM ONE DAY IF HE KEEPS UP THE SPECTACULAR PLAY TRULY IS A MONSTER AND VERY DESERVING OF HIS MVP!!! HONORS THIS SEASON HE ALSO WAS AMAZING LAST SEASON AS WELL IM FROM PHILLY BUT HAVE BECOME A MIAMI FAN BECAUSE OF 1 PERSON LBJ HES THAT DANG GOOD

  7. Luigi says:

    If Lebron wins one championship, they will say he is one of the greatest players of all time.

    If Lebron wins three championships, they will say he is one of the top 10 greatest players of all time.

    If Lebron wins six or more championships, they will say he is the greatest player of all time.

    He is 27 years old. He probably has 7-8 years left as a dominant player, and then he will have to defer to another superstar.

    I hope he wins 6 or more!

  8. oscar says:

    too bad for the rest of the country the spurs arent wearing purple and gold or just green…….
    duncan + popovich + rc buford (mgmt) have created a machine that dismantles all other systems
    only when the big 3 are hurt , just like many other teams have suffered this year
    will the spurs not make it to the top
    if this were the NFL the spurs will be in every sports cover regardless of the size and population of the Alamo city
    but theres a few ppl left that are not jealous and bitter that will give the spurs their credit even if its just their job

  9. Tygger2K6 says:

    Paul sounds stupid. What’s up with you and that city?

  10. another Heat fan says:

    Using ring count as a measure of a player’s talent is just plain stupid as someone said earlier. How many people out there know who Scott Williams of the early 90s Bulls? I bet most of the people reading this blog have no idea who he is but yeah he’s got 3 rings. Does that make him a better player than LBJ, or even Shane Battier for that matter? NO, he’s got them rings because he was lucky to be on the Bulls’ bench, that’s all.

    In my opinions, getting rings involves more luck than skill. LBJ is living proof of that. When MJ & Pippen got theirs, they had the best 3pt shooter that ever played the game(Steve Kerr), the best defender of the time(the amazing badboy Rodman). I doubt MJ got many rings or any back then if he didn’t have that great of a supporting cast. Who were the unlucky duo of that era, nobody else but Malone & Stockton.

  11. The Master says:

    Kobe is the best!!!!! Hahaha!!! 5 championships!!!!!

  12. ALL TIME GREATS says:

    Wade makes James better…James is unique statitistically but Wade is as well. James is more consistent and durable, but Wade, when he is on, can match James’ efficiency and exceed his explosiveness. Wade took a step back this year and this allowed James to get comfortable, and now that Wade has woke up during the Pacers series, they’re both in attack mode.

  13. Yeaahhh says:

    Lebron, Oscar, Magic, Bird, Chamberlain, my best 5 , choose your team and try to win over my team, “pick jordan” don’t care….

  14. Yeaahhh says:

    not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6 but 7 damn he lost #8 but there’s 7 left

  15. bob says:

    Lebron and the heat will win if they get chris bosh back

  16. Truth says:

    LeBron is the best player today and will be the greatest player of all time. When it’s all said and done LeBron will stand alone. It’s not even close. If the so called greats “bird Jordan magic” played today they would notbe greats.the game isto fast andtoo athletic for those guys. Can you imagine bird playing LeBron on either side of the ball. It would be a joke.

    LBJ GREATEST OF ALL TIME

  17. I think it’s ridiculous to judge LeBron James because he hasn’t won a title yet. To put into perspective just how good of a player he really is, think about the Cavaliers. In James’ final year in Cleveland, the Cavaliers had the best record in the NBA. Following his departure, however, they became one of the worst, if not THE worst team, in the entire league. Although James never led them to a championship, the Cavaliers were perennial post-season contenders.

    As one bright individual said earlier – not every great player wins a ring. Stockton and Malone were wonderful examples. It would be silly to question either of their careers. In fact, they were probably the most effective pick-and-roll duo the league has ever seen. Championships are won by team efforts, rather than individual performances. So quit harking about LeBron’s ‘failures,’ and recognize his potential.

    James nearly averages a triple-double each and every season. That should amaze any basketball fan. I understand that statistics don’t tell you everything about a player. But that is no reason to dismiss them. His numbers this year are historic. Furthermore, he made the all-defensive team this year, not an easy task by any means. And his rebounding and stealing abilities are only getting better!

    Nobody’s career should be judged by how many rings they’ve won, or by the organization they play for. I’ve disliked Kobe Bryant and the Lakers for many years, but never have I second-guessed his talent.

  18. I think it’s ridiculous to judge LeBron James because he hasn’t won a title yet. To put into perspective just how good of a player he really is, think about the Cavaliers. In James’ final year in Cleveland, the Cavaliers had the best record in the NBA. Following his departure, however, they became one of the worst, if not THE worst team, in the entire league. Although James never led them to a championship, the Cavaliers were perennial post-season contenders.

    As one bright individual said earlier – not every great player wins a ring. Stockton and Malone were wonderful examples. It would be silly to question either of their careers. In fact, they were probably the most effective pick-and-roll duo the league has ever seen. Championships are won by team efforts, rather than individual performances. So quit harking about LeBron’s ‘failures,’ and recognize his potential.

    James nearly averages a triple-double each and every season. That should amaze any basketball fan. I understand that statistics don’t tell you everything about a player. But that is no reason to dismiss them. His numbers this year are historic. Furthermore, he made the all-defensive team this year, not an easy task by any means. And his rebounding and stealing abilities are only getting better!

    Nobody’s career should be judged by how many rings they’ve won, or by the organization they play for. I’ve disliked Kobe Bryant and the Lakers for many years, but never have I second-guessed his talent.

    • NBAfan says:

      Lebron is great and if anybody can average a triple double for an entire season, it’s Lebron…but to say that he has NEARLY averaged a trip dub every year is a great exaggeration….

  19. Rohan says:

    Well done John. Good stuff.

  20. Mickey H says:

    Clyde Drexler was really close. 88-89 season. Only played 3 games but averged 27.7ppg, 10.0rpg and 8.3apg. He missed the fg percentage by one shot. (35 of 71 for .493)

    • Sea Pea says:

      Clyde ain’t never had no 10 boards a game.

      • NBAfan says:

        Are you kidding…Clyde was and will always be one of the better rebouding guards out there. He was no MJ but he was good in his own right.

  21. KWill says:

    Yall kill me with the “joined forces” tidbit. You saw clevelands limited roster, You saw him drop 25 in the fourth and overtime on detroit back in 07, because he had too. You saw him take them to the playoffs consistently for yrs, and the finals albeit swept, but took that limited roster . Cleveland?? Ever been? If not I bet its not even on the radar for your next vacation spot..c’mon man im jetting cleveland first plane out too. And if Im “going to college for the first time” I would want the closest thing to family to play with. Dwayne and Bosh wasnt going to cleveland!! But look at scenario, plenty years now to cement a legacy with a buddy in a city thats as beautiful as the rumps walking around. Pssst miami bound!!!

  22. Ayman says:

    Amazing facts, but i’m feeling if the heat were to take the championship, its not an easy road in the first place, and I’m guessing that there will be a co-mvp for both wade and james, having eliminate two teams and possibly 3 without Chris Bosh! this is one of the most amazing seasons in years in terms of close competition, wild plays, all around! where amazing happens!

  23. Anes says:

    Yeah, pretty reminiscent of 2007 Playoffs. All chances are, he’ll have the same ending this year – being beaten by the Spurs. :)

  24. These Spurs have a very legitimate shot at going down as one of the greatest teams in NBA history. They swept the first two rounds and have a 2-0 lead over a very talented OKC team. I feel so bad for whoever ends up playing them in the finals. Celtics don’t have the athleticism to keep up and the Heat just don’t have the depth. They could sweep the playoffs.

    • Zak says:

      Heat have a much much better chance versing the Spurs than OKC.

      The matchups with OKC would be horrible unlike SAS where they can pretty much allocate decent matchups for everyone.

      Heat vs Spurs

      4 – 1

    • Sick says:

      spurs ain’t scary… lol

  25. lebron is the best!
    no one is messin’ with him right now!

  26. ettk45 says:

    The recent Dwyane/LeBron games are the highest level basketball I have ever seen, and I’ve watched a lot over the years.

  27. Rafal says:

    “but he’s legacy will never be the same as if he had won a ring on his own team.”

    Like if he would ever win a ring in Cleveland =D
    Please… try to be rational =D Didn’t you see how hard he tried? They simply did not have the roster and he did wise not to wait there til he gets 35 years old for any roster capable of winning more than once, accidentally.

    • Sea Pea says:

      He was just impatient in Cleveland. He was almost there. Jordan got beat every year by Bird and Isaiah Thomas. Jordan and definitely magic could have won a championship if not a couple with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They would have made everyone around them better. Do you remember the bums Magic had on his team in the 90′s. He still went the championship. You gotta lead…..

      Things have just come to easy for him and he doesn’t know how to handle adversity. He’s learning though.

    • NBAfan says:

      I agree with you. Lebron tried very hard to win a ring in cleveland. His numbers and the fact that he was able to bring the cavs to the finals once is good enough in my book to show he tried hard.

      He could have waited though…someone was bound to join him….maybe he was so scared that other stars will team up AGAINST him that he teamed up with his buddies before that happened.

  28. trueLEGEND says:

    Lebron’s career will forever be stained in my opinion. He opted to join forces with 2 other franchise players, including Wade (who should be his rival not his teammate). I know he is great, one of the best in history, but he’s legacy will never be the same as if he had won a ring on his own team.

    • Sea Pea says:

      I think if he wins championships with this super team it will be remembered how it changed basketball. It did not work as well for the Celtics but it did work. The Jury is still out on whether you can stack a team in this free agent market and still win championships. I think Lebron or wade will need to take a pay cut to actually get a championship though. They’ve bankrupted their team. The draft is the only way to do it. A few trades are necessary but you can’t trade for top 5 guys and still have enough left to hire decent role players.

    • nbalover says:

      who else has won by themselves? every one else had a great suporting cast. miami has lebron and wade alone think abiout it

      • NBAfan says:

        Lebron and Wade are superstars but for sure Bosh is a very good player for the heat, and Battier, Miller and Turiaf is as good of a supporting cast as you can hope when a team spends all it’s money on 3 guys….

  29. YuhMudda says:

    you fools if lebron wins a ring they gonna still say he need 5 to be near kobe or 6 to be mj.. 1 ring wouldnt shut up these ignorant lbj haters..

    bajan fan yuh mudda 1

  30. Rafal says:

    I’ve always loved LeBron James for one thing.
    No-one (except for Blake Griffin, but his skills are fairly limited) can play so beautiful basketball as he does.

    “James… Yes! And the foul! :: Steve Kerr laughing in the background ::” : )

  31. nrmn says:

    LBJ’s nemesis = TEXAS :D

  32. Terence361 says:

    I believe that most NBA fans respect LeBron’s talent and ability; however, the question remains – can he win a championship and does he have the mental toughness to win multiple titles… the stats are impressive but without titles there will be more questions than answers… and YES I roosting for LeBron

  33. bron06 says:

    hes only 27 and hes just keeps on goin……look out spurs will be next….

  34. Marc says:

    LeBron is great like Hulk Hogan was in the 80′s. I use this comparison because the NBA is a bigger joke and more scripted than the WWF. Also Game 1 of this series was one of the worst officiated game I have ever seen, but aren’t they all that James plays in.

  35. KWill says:

    LBJ is putting up the greatest season in NBA history, statistically speaking. We talk like we know this man and how he thinks, but have the slightest idea as to what drives him, what pushes him to play the way he does. He will be one of the greatest in history just on numbers alone. He hasnt won a ring yet, but when not if he does get one, thats more than 15% of the greatest 50 to ever play that game, and if you are going by rings, that puts him top 25. People who dont identify with those type of abilities always frown on the idea of greatness, hence the word team comes into play. You didnt drive 100 mph when you first got your license, it took time to learn the road how to do it and when to do it. Consider it learning. Once you did, you did it frequently. Lebron James, the greatest teammate youll ever have…period.

  36. nrmn says:

    lol.. this stats mean nothing without winning the ring. James is a great player indeed, but i think he lacks the heart needed to win a championship. word to LBJ, you should not have said those words during the “the decision”. not 1, not 2, not 3……. lolololol…

  37. Yoann says:

    Regardless if 1 person with that high of stats it’s they have poor surrounding..So the personal number just tells me the rest of the team is really bad . That can give you MVP but I think the goal it’s ring if I am not wrong. James is on of the greatest player to ever play the game with his talent…but you need the heart to win and so far I have not seen that in him.

    • t rosh says:

      there are plentry of teams that did not win or even make the play offs but they’re number dont evn come close to james, yoann. if it is easy as you make it out how many players ever in the nba have an average of 27,7,7. James is a freak. his time will come when he leads a team to a championship.

  38. YuhMudda says:

    firstly to the person that loves LeBron so much and spelling it Labron.. that was funny!…. Lebron .. if injury doesnt occur and he gets say 3+ rings … will be in the top 5 fuh sure

  39. jordan says:

    if anyone is going by rings to determine greats…..then i guess robert horry is really really really great…he is better than kobe and jordan. Yes rings are a part of the game, but only great teams win titles, not great players (great players on great teams win titles). Reason Lebron hasn’t won a title is because he has never been on a great team, until now of course.

  40. OKC2012 says:

    this list also just shows that Larry Bird was THE MAN….. to go 23 games and keep those stats that high, damn now thats a true legend

    • NBAfan says:

      Yeah…if Schuhmann choose 15 games instead of a very arbitrary 12 games to qualify this list…there’s only two post seasons by Bird……that’s why he’s Larry Legend….nobody even calls Lebron the King anymore…he’s still a great great player though and the best in the league at this point no doubt (and I’m a Kobe fan)

  41. OKC2012 says:

    All these stats show is that Lebron James had better stats in the 2008-2009 post season lol, look how far that got him…..

  42. LameBron says:

    If the Heat can find a way to get past the Celtics, the Spurs are going to monkey stomp them. They will likely sweep them. At best the Heat may win one game.

  43. noyb says:

    Lebron was overrated and he’s still overrated. All this hype and STILL NO RING…

    • Basketballstudies says:

      you know even bench players get a ring. How does that my his talent overrated. You guys know Jordan didnt et his 1s ring til 28 right. IJS. Man will be one of the most talented players to ever play this game point blank period. Name another player that can stick all 5 positions on def and play 1-4 on off. Lets be real, you simply hate LBJ thats why its overshading your view of talent. Hate him or love him LBJ is that dude

      • Sea Pea says:

        Lot’s a players can play all 5 spots now. Garnett could have in his day, Kevin Durant could, Melo could. Center is a weak postition. Has been since the 90′s. It doesn’t take much to play center these days. It’s just that it’s a waste of skills to play center if you can dribble, shoot, and have speed.

      • Rennir says:

        Jordan played college ball, LeBron got drafted straight from high school. And yes, you are right about the rings. But at the top echelon of NBA players, when all of them are so skilled and have so many individual awards/records, you look for ways to distinguish them if you want to decide who’s better, and the number of rings is one such way. Number of rings is definitely not the only factor, which is why the argument isn’t invalid, because those other bench players with rings aren’t even in the discussion. They’re automatically disqualified because they don’t have the skill.

  44. LOLakers says:

    The debate will soon be over, Lebron will be forever known as the greatest player of all time, no contest! He will win the next 10 years in a row with the Heat and the Heat won’t let anyone else win until Lebron and Wade retire! Go Heat!

  45. many says:

    It is a blessing to be mention as an alltime great. the sad thing is that lebron is such a unique player who listen to the critics about his game and trys to improve it by scoring on the post and taking less threes and so on. It does not matter what he accomplish we will always try minimize it. If he wins a ring the next talk will be about how jordan has six rings and kobe four rings.
    Like joakim Noa said ” The heat is holywood but they are very good team’
    This year Denny granger mention how james and wade got all the attention from nba and three games later the indiana pacers came to the conclusion that the entire team could not match james and wade.
    Anyway my point is that tis so entertaining to see how teams start by saying james is so overated and at the end of the series they blame their loss on lebron greatness along with wade

  46. sam says:

    king james all day everydayyy

  47. NG says:

    Hi all.

    Stopped watching NBA ever since MJ left Chicago. Did this kid bring my interest back into this game? I can’t care less which team he is playing for. He is amazing, incredible, you name it. It is a God given talent just like it was with MJ.

  48. akosibonik says:

    just a ring, to shut this haters up, let’s seal your legacy here mister king james,

  49. Just Be says:

    I don’t understand…I don’t understand, how come James keep doing that with the BABY-POWDER IF he’s no longer at Ohio….That’s why he ain’t the King

    • Basketballstudies says:

      why does he have to chg his traditions bc he isn’t in CLV anymore???

  50. Mike C says:

    FIXED BASKETBALL.. NBA IS FIXED

    #STOPITNBA #STOPITNBA #STOPITNBA #STOPITNBA

  51. James says:

    why won’t you post my last post, I stand by what I said…… don’t be afraid about the truth……. its all over the net……..

    • James says:

      Moderation OK….. you guys are funny, I did not say anthing that needs to be moderate…. come on, if you want real blog comments let the truth be heard. But what ever, I do like James and what I said about him is the truth and I hope he reads it……

  52. MIAMIFAN69 says:

    being a GREAT basketball player doesn’t mean you HAVE to have rings. i still consider Stockton and Malone 1 of the best PG and PF and they don’t have rings. if Jordan didn’t retire in 94-95 chances were the Rockets wouldn’t have won those 2 championships, BUT still Hakeem Olajuwan would be considered 1 of the best centers regardless! and it’s not always the best team that wins it all, sometimes 1 injury or a few bad calls can change an enitre game or series. the Kings of early 2000 were better than the Lakers, but some bad calls and some big lucky shots by Horry etc changed all that. not saying that Horry isn’t 1 of the best clutch shooters we have, but in 1 of those games against kings that tap out to him was pure luck

    • JWills says:

      Spot on sir. I have to admit I’m a Spurs fan by the fact that I live here so its obvious who I’ll be cheering for but there are so many guys other than Lebron that bring so much to this game. Chris Paul immediately comes to mind. So he doesnt blow up the stats sheet quite like Lebron does but he ain’t no slouch either. Always fun to watch. Kevin Durant, obviously another and unfortunately will have to wait his turn this year again. Theres so many. Comparing some of the current crop to the era of Jordan and Bird etc… and its scary when you realize just how much this game has changed and evolved into.

      Just for the record it will be sad (for James and his followers) that once again will be so close to the coveted prize and yet for a second time the only obstacle to defer him will be a Spurs squad. Sorry folks but I have to stay true to my team. Doesn’t mean that I don’t appreciate and enjoy the exploits of the rest of the NBA.

      YMMV as usual.

  53. Bev says:

    You know, tears comes to my eyes sometimes when I think about LaBron. And the reason for that is I realize that Labron has something very special and we are watching “history in the making”. My interest in the nba had all but vanished since the Michael Jordan era, but then I heard all the talk about “The Decision”. That is how Labron came to my attention. I didn’t know who he was or who he played for. I felt it was unfair the way the media was treating him. But then I actually saw him in action on the basketball court!! Needless to say, I am now a Bron Bron Fan!

    It is truly amazing to see what he has thus accompolished in the game of basketball, and in my eyes he has brought the nba back !! And to withstand all the negative press about decisions he has had the right to make is truly amazing to me.

    If I could tell LaBron one thing it would be this:
    Please know that there are people out here who love you and are cheering you on in out hearts and in our prayers.
    (And also in my living room when Im watching the game). You are a true inspiration of how to react when life throws you lemons. Just be like Labron and make delicious lemonade !! Stay Safe and Stay Positive. I love you like a Son even though I never officially meet you.

    Much Love to you LaBron, Your Family and the Miami Heat Organization.

    Your #1 Fan in NC
    MsBevBlack nba.com

  54. Aaaaaaaaammmmmmmaaaaaaazzzzzziiiiiiinnnnnnggggg!

  55. Bev says:

    You know, tears comes to my eyes sometimes when I think about LaBron. And the reason for that is I realize that Labron has something very special and we are watching “history in the making”. My interest in the nba had all but vanished since the Michael Jordan era, but then I heard all the talk about “The Decision”. That is how Labron came to my attention. I didn’t know who he was or who he played for. I felt it was unfair the way the media was treating him. But then I actually saw him in action on the basketball court!! Needless to say, I am now a Bron Bron Fan!

    It is truly amazing to see what he has thus accompolished in the game of basketball, and in my eyes he has brought the nba back !! And to withstand all the negative press about decisions he has had the right to make is truly amazing to me.

    If I could tell LaBron one thing it would be this”
    Please know that there are people out here who love you and are cheering you on in out hearts and in out prayers.
    (And also in my living room when Im watching the game). You are an true inspiration of how to react when life throws you lemons. Just be like Labron and make delicious lemonade !! Stay Safe and Stay Positive. I love you like a Son even though I never officially meet you.

    Much Love to you LaBron, Your Family and the Miami Heat Organization.

    Your #1 Fan in NC
    MsBevBlack nba.com

    • Cali says:

      If you stopped watching Bastketball when Jordan retired,and just now tuned in because of Bron’s d-bag spectacle, you’ve missed a few greats of this generation and all the likable years of Lebron James. Get outta here with your fairweather pom poms. LBJ is a physical beast… but for being in the league 8 years, he’s yet to tap into more than just his physical abilities. He could be 2x as good as he is, if he developed his post up and footwork… now THAT is the scary part.

  56. Mike B says:

    LBJ has been an absolute beast all throughout his career. Only those who truly understand the game can appreciate the talents the he has.

  57. Paul says:

    I do realize Lebron is one of the greatest players ever. I loved him when he was in CLE I rooted for him in the finals against the spurs, but he chose to go to the heat. The one franchise I’ve always disliked, I even dislike the city. So that’s why I dislike him now, same with every player on that roster. If they go to any other team, I’d love every single one of them, from the bottom of that roster to Pat Riley.

  58. Miguel says:

    I find it very strange that in this well constructed article, backed up by stats i can’t seem to find one lebron hater in the comments list, apart from Joe wich, by being truly honest (and overmatched by the stats) compliments Lebron’s play.

    • Rennir says:

      Let me help you out then :) How about this: As more post-season games are played, chances are stats will normalize and decline. It is much more impressive that Bird played 23 games and achieved those stats compared to, let’s say James’/Barkeley’s 11-12 games. Do you think they could’ve maintained this level if they made it to the finals?

  59. Joe says:

    I’m a traditional James hater, but I’ve had to admit to myself in this playoff run that James will likely end his career as a top 5, possibly top 3 player all time. He’s probably the first player since Jordan to crack the top 10… although Duncan is probably in there somewhere too.

    • donjuan says:

      Duncan is a great player but he doesnt make the top 10 thats a whole other catagory. By the end of the day i look at stats… for example MJ did not accomplish much at the age of 27, compared to Lebron. And like MJ said it will be a different ball game if he was still around playing with these younger guys. Fact is Lebron is working his way up to be the greatest players, but my picks will be MJ, Bird, and Johnson Lebron following behind

      • kane waselenchuk says:

        Duncan has the highest ELO among the active players (find out what it means in basketball), Lebron is second… so Duncan of course could be considered a top player ever…

    • Geo says:

      Duncan???? Duncan???? how does Duncan even come close….unless all you can see is his bling bling. Spurs Fan Alert!!!!

      • Joe says:

        I’m a Warriors fan. He’s the best PF of all time who will probably win his 5th title this year… he was the best player in 3 of his 4 titles. Timmy is the closest one to making it into the top 10 of the last era, 2nd being Kobe.

      • MVP says:

        don’t be disrespectful Geo!
        duncan is one of the 10 greatest players ever. he’s playing on an consistent level all over his career and is maybe the best PF ever played the game..maybe he’s not that explosiv and spectacular but he knows how to play the game and win titles. but my heart beats for the heat and LBJ. how great would it be, if miami beat the best TEAM in the NBA..

      • Meh says:

        Duncan is one of the all-time greats in sports. LeBron is…uhm, one of the all-time media targets?

  60. BFoulds says:

    Unfortunately, number’s don’t mean anything unless you are counting rings on your fingers.

    Just ask the Spurs.

    • donjuan says:

      Unfortunately, mean a big thing indiviually in order to get a ring it has to be a team effort. And dont worry LBJ will get his rings…

    • Howard says:

      your comment is unrelated with the topic. obviously we are talking about an individual’s statistics and NOT the championship rings earned. MVP is for an individual. championships rings are being won as a team.

    • CMark says:

      Does anybody called a hater?

      • wade is better says:

        individual greatness doesn’t mean anything if you don’t step up in the most important minutes of the game. ofcourse he is a great player and a clear hall of fame but till he gets his rings he will be remembered as a looser. this year, he does seem like another player and he plays the last minutes well, we will see if it is enough to win the ring this year. by the way, I think that if lebron had a better coach or better teammates when he was a rookie, he wouldn’t have these problems till this year.

    • shhh says:

      are you saying that the career or postseason numbers of josh powell, luke walton and adam morrison are better than lechoke’s numbers because they are 2-time nba champions?

  61. James is the reason why the heat are contenders each year, not to mention dwyane and bosh…but whenever u have a player like LBJ that can score at will with or without a pick or ball screen, u have an advantage over your opponent..ECF prediction: http://www.mindofmattman.com/2012/05/nba-eastern-conf-finals-prediction.html

  62. MVP says:

    just scary how great he is.
    hopefully the heat win it all this year. it would be the perfect season for lebron.
    to beat the spurs in the finals would be the official test and legitimate his greatness.

    • James Bouwer says:

      Agreed. It will be difficult for the Heat to beat San Antonio. They have such a long winning streak and have a great coach. It would be beyond phenomenal if the Heat can win the Finals.

    • Imad Akel says:

      i saw the spurs-okc game 2 yesterday, the spurs put on a clinic. I dont know if the Heat have what it takes. I mean forget the numbers, james and wade (and hopefully bosh) will have to go all out. They’ve got to out-rebound duncan, out-play parker, out-score ginobli. Hell they even have to help spoelstra coach vs a great like greg popovich.
      The spurs are a legacy. Beating these spurs will be like beating the 2001 Lakers. It won’t be easy, but if they can do it (whether miami or OKC) it will be a very memorable championship.

  63. Jack says:

    good article,..u made a great research for this john,..keep up

    • NBAfan says:

      First, NO DOUBT Lebron is a great player.
      Second, NO DOUBT he is the face of the NBA.
      Third, NO DOUBT he shouldn’t have had the 1-hour ESPN special, the parade, and maybe shouldn’t even be calling himself King anymore, but I (as a fan) truly respect his focus and drive this year, so much so that IF he EARNS the ring he’s been unable to win all these years this year through EXCELLENT PLAY, I (as a fan) am willing to let bygones be bygones.

      I agree he is a different player this year. He is a different person this year.

      Mr. Schuhmann, I know you love your stats, but first off, take Lebron’s 2009-10 post season from your list because he only played 11 games and YOU YOURSELF CREATED THE REQUIREMENT FOR 12 GAMES MINIMUM…

      Also, you want to compare MJ’s 37,7,and 7 from the SG spot to Lebron’s POINT POWER FORWARD SPOT?

      Larry Legend does not have 1/3 of Lebron’s physical ability yet he has 2 on that list and he shoots the three ball…which is a very nice threat to have on offense…anybody can run and jump and drive to the hoop….like you said…Wade even does it better.

      I like Lebron but the more articles like this try to justify his greatness, the more I want to deny his greatness (as a fan).

      • David Williams says:

        You compare guys that played in the 80′s to today because rules were much different.

      • niko says:

        ur a complete idiot another nobody who was probably the kid in school that got picked last for all team sports and u grew up now and voice ur opinion while hiding behind a computer..,. ur wife loves lebrons penus

      • NBAfan says:

        @ niko: I was an all star in HS and played college ball….I was never picked last and it’s interesting that the HTB didn’t moderate your derogatory message. If you don’t want to believe that then that’s you…I don’t have to prove anything to you.

        @ David Williams: Also I didn’t compare them to guys in the 80′s Schuhmann did…