HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – A year ago this time their names were barely mentioned in the same sentence.
Derrick Rose was on his way to putting together a stellar MVP season while Chris Paul was fighting off haters who were suggesting that he couldn’t stay healthy and was maybe being passed up by a young crop of bigger and better point guards like Rose, Russell Westbrook and even Rajon Rondo.
I would love to know what Paul’s haters have to say these days. And after watching he and Rose back-to-back on TNT last night (while chatting with my Hang Time Podcast co-host Lang Whitaker, and yes, we went old school and actually talked on the phone during games instead of just Tweeting and/or texting like normal), the question was raised, “who would you take between D. Rose and CP3?”
My initial response, “it depends on who else is on the team.”
But upon further reflection, that was an extremely disingenuous answer to a legitimate question. The fact is, any team with either one of those men on them starts with whichever one of those point guards — arguably the two finest in the game right now — you want to build that hypothetical team around.
And right now, it seems like an impossible choice to make.
They’re both in ideal situations for their skills sets.
The Bulls have built a grimy, blue-collar crew around Rose, guys who play defense first and know when to get out of the way so Rose can do what he does best on the offensive end (attack). Meanwhile, Paul is orchestrating a symphony of highlights for the Clippers these days (you know a nostalgic Tyson Chandler has to be kicking over a trash can in the Knicks’ locker room watching DeAndre Jordan‘s reenactment of the routine he and Paul did in New Orleans).
So much of this choice is about how you like your point guard to operate, because they both get similar results. And a head-to-head or even raw stats comparison, while interesting, doesn’t really solve the conundrum because this is more about who you’d rather have than who you think is better.
(For the record Paul has the career edge in assists, rebounds, steals and every shooting category while Rose has a higher career scoring average and again is a bigger and stronger physical specimen.)
Again, they are the perfect point guards for the teams they lead right now. I can’t imagine anyone in Los Angeles (Clippers fans, at least) that would trade their point guard for Rose and I’m certain no one in Chicago would give up the hometown kid for Paul.
But if you were choosing for your team, who would you choose …
disingenuous answer? I don’t think so. I don’t have a team so I can’t speculate with zero players. So one on five I go with Rose. If you are just going to throw me some players out there could be anybody. I go with rose. If I got some good raw talented players I’m going with Paul. If I got chemistry problems I’m going with Paul. If I need two points no matter what I’m going with Rose.
Final Answer Paul because I think he can work on any team. Full of supestars or full of nobody’s. His Fragility scares me though.
…good answer
rose is all media
yea, you are right, but even in clutch situations where Rose has seen on many occasions dominating the game CP3 does exactly the same, his jump shot is more reliable than Rose, but Rose is just faster to the rim, but CP3 has all the tools to get in the paint just like Paul Pierce who isnt the fastest guy in the league, but footwork and ball handling alone can take him there, and CP3 is much wiser in all given situations when compared to Rose, I love Rose, but I think CP3 at this stage is still a better all around player, his defense is underrated…
I’d go with CP3 because I believe he’ll be able to keep the numbers up longer since he doesn’t rely all that much on explosivity and sheer athlecism.
100% agree with that, been saying it for a while. CP3 gonna be putting up the same numbers for the next decade
Ohhh, so you’re saying that Rose won’t be able to consistently put up the same numbers, if not better? Please. I admit that CP is one of the best point guards to play the game, but at this point, there isn’t a clue that will even hint at how far and successful Rose is going to be in the future. All I’m saying is, if you’re talking about consistency, Rose is ALSO you’re man. I might add, however, that CP has not been as consistent this year – up and down. Just sayin’
It’s like sayin in MJ’s prime that he wouldnt be consistent because his game’s based on athletisism. You all know that it wasnt the case, so…Personally, I think that CP3 is overrated, I respect him though, he’s a hell of a PG but he’s got nothin on D Rose, nothin…
This is tuff. Both have their own styles but I’d have to go with CP3 because he’s a fundamental point guard. Rose is more of a 2 guard/point guard. I’d love to see these teams play each other in the finals though.
Chris Paul’s injury history is enough to make me pick Rose over him.
Have you seen CP3 this season? Granted, I haven’t been watching Rose as often, but Paul has absolutely CHANGED the franchise of the Clippers. Griffin is an unreal talent but last season they still missed the playoffs. Now, Griffin’s only in his 2nd season and has been with Paul for a very short time. Where are they? 3rd in the West. That is a huge improvement. The Bulls are still #1 in the East at the moment, but I haven’t seen any real improvement from last year, which is just fine. But CP3 has come alive in the bright lights of L.A.
You said you dont see any improvment in the bulls this year thats because you cant get better than #1. Also if you remember the bulls played the cloppers this year and DRose was to much for CP3. Both players are great at what they do but CP3 cant keep up with Rose.
You mean the addition of Mo Williams, Caron Butler and Chauncey Billups changed the Franchise around. CP3 is amazing, but he didnt do this on his own. If you were to take last years Clippers and just add CP3, they would not be third in the west and may not even be in the playoffs. Mo and Billups have been 4th quarter killers and Caron adds those easy buckets when no one has it going..
First off they had Mo last year. Next Billups hasn’t been great so far. I think he’s shooting under forty percent and Chris is just getting back into shape. Billups and Butler were great addition but it’s more of Chris who’s turning the franchise around. Without him they would probably not even be in the playoffs. Have u seen there last couple of games in the fourth quarter. Chris has been unbelievable.
MO only played 22 games with them last year and missed almost 30 games. He wasnt an impact like he is this year. Again, this is not saying CP3 is not a great player as he is, but he is not THE only reason they have improved over last year. To think otherwise is just crazy.
Meh CP3 is good but there is no way i’d pick him over Rose, not only as a Bulls fan but as a man with common sense, sure the clips are doing great this season, but that is more circumstantial than not, they have all the pieces falling for them and most every other team in the west save for the thunder, wolves and Lakers are falling apart and the lakers are questionable at that I see the polarity of quality of the west versus the east slowly changing and the clips are just taking advantage of that, it’s hardy Chris Paul carrying the team.. The Bulls are a different story they are facing a ever strengthening East conf. and he can still light teams up with able guards..
Really, man? You don’t think a one-year-wiser Griffin, one-year-smarter DeAndre, a healthy Caron Butler, currently THE veteran guard in the league in Billups…..
… are even slightly related to their boost?!?
They pretty much changed their entire staff from last season, how on earth can you claim that “CP3 made this happen” ?! I bet with Mo/Billups on the point in LA, they’d still do really really well.. maybe not one of the tip-top records in the league, but not far from where they are today.
As for the Bulls, how can you improve on #1?
Sure, the roster is more or less the same from last year, bar the addition of Rip, but said player fills all the gaps the Bulls had with Keith Bogans playing SG – and given how the Bulls are all about team more than anyone else in this league, it doesn’t make sense to change cast all that much..
Also, the main reason you haven’t seen improvements is probably due to the endless list of injuries they have, but you could say it’s an improvement to hold the #1 spot in the east on fumes.
Wow, awesome, what he said. I really can’t say it anybetter
You can’t lose in that choice.
i pick D rose 100 times over cp3
Derrick Rose is more unguardable in a one-on-one, but this is a team game. Playoffs are a place for a place for CP3 to shine because he can effect the game in more ways. That said, with these 2 guys, it’s hard to nitpick. But, no one, in the game today, can see the floor like Paul (outside of Nash and Kidd). The injuries just don’t scare me…..yet. I don’t think D-Rose will get the intangibles that Paul has b4 his athleticism lessens. Rose is an amazing player and has scary room for growth (I love how humble he is!), don’t get me wrong but I do think after it’s all said and done- Paul will be considered one of the very best PG’s the league has seen (and is pretty humble himself, if not as self-deprecating as Rose).
i like the bulls more than the clips, however, as contradictory as it sounds, my ideal team would run better with a cp3 style of point, because although rose is amazing, chris at this point indefinitely has a better overall game, if you excuse athletic ability. rose is still fairly young, i think in maybe a season or two he will be above paul 100% but only time will tell.
I guess every one if forgetting the clippers/bulls game when DROSE all but exposed Chris paul as the inferior point guard and as a nba player. Even when Chris was in new orleans he never could stop a team with DROSE on it. Its funny whenever the bulls play chris paul after the game they always admit DROSE is better but as soon as Paul gets a few nice games in a row they all of a sudden think he’s #1.
Everytime the two teams have played Chris had been fighting injury. From last year and this year Chris wasn’t in great shape and he was still learning his new teammates. 1 on 1 no doubt Rose would win. But as a team Chris is better cuz of his ability to use other players. Chris is smarter, better shooter, and better leader. Rose is great and is in a perfect situation but I don’t think he can play with other superstar players cuz beside scoring he don’t bring anything else to the team. He’s very inconsicent in three point shooting and isn’t great at getting other people involved. If i was building a young team with no superstar I would take Rose, but if i was trying to make a championship team with other star players I would hands down take Paul. Paul is better built for the playoffs and winning a championship. Rose is built more for the regular season.
D Rose in the last year proved how much a player who commits to the game and doesn’t think selfishly can improve his game and especially his team. He is MVP for a reason, even if his numbers are lower than LBJ or Kobe for instance.
So we can arguably say he’s the best overall player in the league.
The thing is that he plays in a team based on defence, with an attacking scheme consisted mainly in isolating him one on one, taking advantage of his amazing skills in cutting the defence.
I might be exagerated but i see in D Rose everything but a good PG though.
And I think about him in a team where another all star can steal the scene or be the “go to guy”.
I don’t know you, but the Melo drama let me think that D Rose, with this kind of play, if he gets used to it, can only go in that direction, if he’s surrounded by other guys deserving the last shot.
CP3 is arguably the best point guard in the world, waiting for a mature rubio and sadly staring at Nash and Kidd soon departure and inevitable slump. He’s probably the only one that can break others’ ankles easily in a quite limited space, and he sees the floor like no other. He misses probably still a little bit of winning mentality (ask Pau) and this in a contending team can be a problem.
But the result for me is that if you got a weak team, take rose. He’ll take you the Finals.
If you’re building a contending team, go to CP3 now or never, and let other people shine around him, like every true, great PG in history.
CP3 almost has a complete game. Rose goes in the same sentence as Durant. they are great scorers and about it that’s it.
so u r saying pg cant be a great scorer? if thats the case, rondo is definitely better than cp3
Every player has its own style. Lets just wait and see at the All Star Game where everybody are stars. Lets see how they play the game and choose your pick.
No one really plays in the AllStar game silly
i’ll choose CP3! i’f you’ll look way back in NO.. he did it on his own. put the hornets on his shoulders and bring it to the playoffs. even though they didn’t make it to the next round against the lakers.. the question is.. what he got on the team?. no one. but only him. while d.rose got luol deng, boozer, noah,?.. sheesh.. cp3 is the man dawg.
really, what about rose leading the bulls to the playoffs in his rookie season?
So david west, emeka okafor and trevor ariza didnt help one bit
outside of david west, not, i don’t think those 2 added too much
Except West was injured…
and Okafor was struggling with foul trouble and just being overwhelmed by the laker’s big men.
10000000% agree
the only reason people may pick CP3 is because he has more athletic players around him that make amazing plays, but if you take away that, do you still think he can lead a team to a championship. Also, boozer and Noah is good one night, but not good the next night. I mean look at their stats it is like a roller coaster. I agree that Deng is great.
Boozer and Noah r good one night and not the other cuz they don’t have a point guard that can set them up. Boozer was great with utah cuz Deron got him involved and set him up where Rose doesn’t know how to do that. Chris knows how to play with talent and is very good at it. He can play with anybody from lebron kobe dwight. Rose can’t play with another superstar. Probably not even Dwight.
Are we forgetting that boozer was a 20/10 guy in Utah with DWill? or that Noah should’ve been a top 5 pick if he left the Gators the year they won? on the boozer point, maybe it’s either the coach or the point guard that’s the problem? I don’t think there’s too many teams that were better than the Jazz at home in efficiency. Rose really needs to get his team involved more to be the best point guard.
You obviously don’t watch him to make an ignorant statement as that, first off the playoffs agaisnt the lakers last year David West was injured, emeka okafor has not done ish since he came out of college, the only decent player he had to help out was trevor ariza who isn’t a superstar, so CP3 pretty much almost eliminated the Lakers on his own, and he did that not only because he can be a scorer when he wants to but also because he gets his teamates involved and makes them better, something that D. Rose does not do. If we ere going to pick on a 1 on 1 basis then It’s D.Rose all day, but as a team player, winning type of a choice It’s CP3. Rose, like durant is a great scorer that’s about it, whereas CP3 is a more complete player. My pick is CP3 hands down, people seem to forget when he first came to the league he could light whoever up scoring just like rose, difference is he has matured and is a better overall PG.
DROSE all the way. I’m a Bulls fan. I mean both guys are great for the style they play, but Paul’s constant injuries make me back off. Both guys are humble, great for there teams, and both will be considered great PG’s of the game. DROSE I’D take though.
@Amitpal have you seen Boozer play last season and this season? Up and Down 1 game out of 4 he’s good. Rose could co-exsist with any Star he just has been on the Bulls who have no 2nd star. Luol Deng is the 2nd option but he’s not a superstar. I’d Take Rose even though I think CP3 is in his prime. D.Rose has yet to reach his full potential
i’ll choose CP3…
i hate rose movees…. ^>^
Sure D Rose is the better scorer out of the two, but when you watch CP3 you can see that he is the more complete point guard, he has composure, great shot selection, he also makes everyone play to their top potential, then when you watch derrick rose he forces the issue way too much in his game style rather than looking for the best shot selection.
So i would choose CP3 over D Rose
I’ll choose ROSE INSTANTLY .. look when the Bulls lost to the Cavs in the 2010 playoffs rose just kept playing and become the MVP the next season, Rose didnt need another good player but enhanced his game … Chris Paul ???? Paul lost to the Lakers on the 2011 playoffs and just like that he wanted a new team to play with ( just like Lebron ) …
Ill take CP3 just cuz of the fact that he makes players around him better and that is what the PG’s job is, to lead an offense and get everyone involved.
if I want to win a championship today, Im going to pick D rose but if I want a dynasty, im going pick CP3 on my team. Actually D rose remind me of young Iverson, man of a great scoring ability with so much athleticism while CP3 reminds me of young J Kidd, a real floor general. Now if you’re looking where are the 2 old guys now, then you’ll know what I mean.
CP3 all the way..Rose is great player but Paul utilize his smart. He will be able to play longer in his career such s Jason kidd and Steve Nash because his making his teamate better. Rose is at his pick right now on his career physically but he will end up like Iverson all beat up later on his late 20s to erly 30s..CP3 is the choice!!
I Love derrick rose but despite his injuries in past years in Chris Paul we could be looking at one of the best pure point guards in the history of the game. I wouldnt hesitate to say that hes a top 10 PG of all time, but i’m sure people would argue. He is almost frighteningly efficient and i dont think there is a player in the league who makes their teammates better than CP3. ( remember in the playoffs last year when he made Aaron Grey look like an NBA Center?) Rose is a phenomenal talent, and supremely gifted, but at the same time he doesnt improve those around him to the same extent as paul. I see him more of a point- SG combo, closer to the mold of a Dwade than another point. Although i dont hold how unique his game his against him. By Definition a pg is an extension of the coach on the court and runs the team, and the offense. Nobody does that better than Paul. He picks his spots to attack and when he does he is a brilliant scorer with few holes in his game. He doesnt rely on supreme strength quickness or athleticism like rose, but hes still more effecient. He consistently makes his team better , and after watching last years playoffs and this season you cuoold make the arguement that cp3 is one of the top 5 fourth quarter finishers in the NBA. This guy is a wizard. I 100% take Chris Paul on any team over derrick rose, despite how spectacular rose is to watch
as an aside, those who are saying that Derrick rose could do more with less are being rediculous. The Bulls are an amazing team., Boozer, Noah, and somehow people forget just how good Luol Deng is, with rip hamilton added to that mix they are a potent team. Chris Paul took far more talent inferior hornets teams to the playoffs year after year. Sure they didnt make it to the finals but the west was and is FAR stronger than the east in the playoff picture and if you put rose in the same situation he doesnt get the same out of those teammates as paul did and doesnt get them near the same result.
Noone takes in to consideration that Rose never got the chance to play on a team with another dominant scorer. Rose has the potential to be better at Chris Pauls style of play than he actualy is. Chris Paul is great but Rose is younger, stronger, faster and overall better. DA BULLS! and most of your guys arguments are dumb because Chris Paul was in New Orleans and couldnt do anything…if your starting a team you want a guy that actualy does change a franchise…let it be by himself or with great surrounding players
before the Bulls, Boozer was a dominant scorer. That’s why he got the big contract. Also, no one in the league in the past 10 years elevated their team to that level outside of Lebron or Wade and the East was much weaker at that time. Maybe Paul could’ve brought the Hornets to the East Finals if NO was in the East.
@al I highly doubt that the Hornets would’ve beat a Boston Miami Or Chi. Maybe the Magic even take down NO. Bozzer WAS key word WAS a scorer in Utah but Boozer also was a non factor vs taller PF’s even in Utah especially in the playoffs. Boozer was a waste of payroll. If I was Bulls GM I would’ve took Al Jefferson and save 10-15 mil. Boozer is the most overpaid bum of all time. I am a bulls fan and can truely say Boozer is garbage a waste of payroll.
right now cp3 is better cause he is more all-around but by next year or 2 years from now it will obviously be D-Rose
CP3 has the clear edge in shooting. he’s a way better shooter than Rose, and that makes him a lot more versatile. he’ll be still productive over 35 (like Nash), while Rose will face problems when he’ll lose that impossibly quick first step.
D.Rose without hesitation..
The Bulls have the best record in the NBA right now, and why is that?…D. Rose! Are the Clippers measuring up?…nope, not at all. Guys c’mon, undoubtedly both players are talented, but the fact remains you can’t contest what the stats say..
I just gotta say, Rose cannot match CP3 and CP3 cannot match Rose. Rose is not CP3 and CP3 is not Rose, They both have their own styles of play, but something Chris Paul is great at is sharing the ball and taking SMART shots only.
Rose or Paul. Reviving the debate? It’s funny how when there’s a debate Paul is always in it. At first it was Paul or Deron Williams. LOL! What does that say about Paul? It says that no matter how much people want to say that these other guys are the best pg, Paul is ALWAYS, and I repeat, ALWAYS, in the conversation. Rose is younger and more athletic. That is all. Rose is a great young player but he doesn’t have the BBIQ that Paul has and he turns the ball over more. Rose was named MVP but the numbers he put up in his MVP season weren’t anything close to the numbers Paul put up when he should have won MVP in 2008.
CP3 is SOFT, Denver has figured that out already. Beat ‘em (Hornets) by more than 50 a few years back and stomped the Clippers last night. All you need to do is be physical with him and he falls apart. I’d take Deron Williams over him any day. And D-Rose is a stud with a great attitude. He doesn’t whine or complain; he’s all business.
Rose of course…no doubt CP3 can´t even make his team be the top of the West even surounded by talented players… he is no longer the CP3 i know in NO…he don´t have the proper motivation right now even the older Billups play better than him…and if MO Will play more minutes I would rather stck with him than CP3
Mo williams over CP3? That’s the most rediculous thing I’ve heard in a VERY long time…
Chris Paul hands down. A point guard is supposed to be the guy that makes plays, makes teammates better. Just look at Blake & DeAndre right now, They’ve been playing at a high level. Blake is averaging 20-10, Jordan is swatting 3 block per game. Not to mention Billups and Butler, They are both getting old but with CP3 running the show they’ve scoring well from the outside.
I have no disrespect for Rose, but by the time he reaches 30 he will not be playing as good as he is now because his speed and athleticism will decline. He reminds me off Allen Iverson. Chris Paul is more like Jason Kidd where he can play at a high level at 30+.
Chris Paul, the reason why is because basketball is a team sport not a one man game, chris makes his teamates so much better which gives them flexabilty that they do not need to rely on him holding down the scoring load, though he could if needed, Rose is a great point guard as well, but he is more of a 2 guard to me and is not the floor general paul is, which is what a true pg need to be. Rose holds down the scoring load, but at the expense of getting his team involved, last year it was exposed in the finals, lebron held rose down and that was it, paul would had everyone involved that way the scoring load would have not fell to him. Rose will have a great career, he will always be in top pg talks, but its paul for me, dont get me wrong I like rose, and if I needed scoring on my team I would take him, but if i was starting a team and had to choose a TRUE PG…. its PAUL!!! No question about it
this is definitely a hard choice to make but I chose Rose. He is just a better weapon than Paul. Paul is a great player but he can’t even try to be a one man show like Rose. Rose can do it all without really having a superstar teammate.
Chris paul! nuff said. yes rose is better in terms of str and speed. but paul has what you called “changer”. and why people said that rose can do it without superstar! of course chris paul too. did you watch NOLA-LA playoffs? No D.west only paul carrying the team. dont look at the scoring cause cp3 wont go that far in season but in playoffs he will be beastmode again!
Lol and why people think that Bulls have the best record now means rose is better? of course bulls roster is good than clips because of experience.”Chris Paul was in New Orleans and couldnt do anything” funny. paul only have d.west in that time. and bulls have more talented players. i love them both but for me Cp3 wins this.
Your comment makes sense the most so far
I’d take Rose anyday. He’s younger, faster, stronger. I dont doubt cp3 is a great pg, I’d put him second to rose but cp3 has alreadt hit his ceiling and rose hasn’t. Not to mention Rose is the reigning mvp. How many mvp awards does cp3 have? Also I’m not sure if anyone was watching but when the Bulls beat the clippers this season it was Rose who dominated Paul in every aspect of the game. The debate was put to rest in that game. Rose clearly has the edge.
How many good teams has CP3 played on?
If you judge on actual ability (not just physical talent) Rose is barely a top 5 PG (if that). Look at any statistics you like, and other the pure ‘PPG’ Chris Paul beats him in just about every statistical category – only reason Rose scores more is because he shoots more.
Let me just ask you one thing guys….you know why Chris Paul is shining this year all of a sudden? BECAUSE OF THE TALENT THAT IS SURROUNDED AROUND HIM….he has billiups..mo williams that is on fire..jordan…blake griffin…caron butler so ofcurse he is gna look better…but D Rose DOES IT ALL on his team and carries his team day and nite with no top scorer…peopple that say he is a ball hog really piss me off because the bulls offense is not so good so the depend on Rose EVERY NITE…how many times did D Rose carry this team with a min left in the game? How many times did the bulls win the game just becaus of Derrick Rose? How many years has chris paul been in the league and Derrick rose? CHris paul been in thie long 3 years more and they already comparing Derrick Rose to him??!?! ENUFF SAID!
The TOPIC should be…
DERRICK ROSE or RUSSELL WESTBROOK!
D.Rose and CP3 have two different playing styles. D.Rose is a SCORING POINTGUARD and CP3 is more like a TRUE POINTGUARD. I’m not taking away anything D.Rose has accomplished and he is an amazing talent but CP3 makes everyone around him better by distributing the ball and enchancing the talents around him.
Westbrook otherwise is another SCORING POINTGUARD but has a KEVIN DURANT with him thats why all the spotlights are shared. The real question is….
D.Rose or Westbrook (without DURANT)..
Rose…No contest
I WILL PICK DERRICK ROSE ALL THE WAY! come on paul over rose you gonna be kidding me hahahahah! NO GRIFFIN ? NO DEANDRE? NO MARTIN? PAUL stats will be lower than expectation he didn’t even had a vision to be a wiiner in one team who pick him and just demand a trade to join a team that make more better in the eyes of the beholder? just like lebron always make me laugh hahahahah! and rose at young age elevate his game and prove to the doubters that he can be the MVP! and lift his team to the next lever neither without one of this big man (BOOZER AND NOAH) or both! DROSE ALL THE WAY!
Rose is a phenomenal basketball player easily one of the best in the league however I would choose CP3 because he is the best all around point guard I’ve seen he can get in the paint finish on bigs (regardless of his size) has a lights out mid range game and hits the 3 at a decent clip.
Pauls decision making with the basketball overall is the best in the league, he’s 3rd in the league this season in apg at 9.4 and has been in the top 4 every season except his rookie year in which he was 7th. Also he’s 2nd in ast/to ratio at 4.4 which Paul has been a top 3 in that category every year but his rookie year in which he was 6th. On top of that Paul has outstanding shot selection you’ll rarely see Paul forcing a shot unless its the end of a shot clock he makes the right basketball play almost every time.
On the flip side Rose has only been in the top 10 in apg last season which he was 10th and so far this season he’s currently 7th and also hasn’t been in the top 20 in ast/to ratio except for early on in this season currently sitting at 14th and IMO Rose has arguably had a better team than Paul every year since he’s been in the league Paul was drafted to a team who had 18 wins the year before while Rose went to a team that won 33 games the year before.
The only edge Rose has over Paul is his size and athleticism that in turn allows Rose to attack the paint with more force and finish stronger than Paul but what Paul lacks in athleticism and strength he more than makes up for in every other facet of his game.
If I’m choosing a point guard to win me multiple championships I’m picking the best floor general in the league who can make the right basketball plays when it counts, and that’s Chris Paul.
Well said, and I agree completely. Rose relies entirely on his physical gifts (size, strength and athleticism) for his sucess, and if you take those away he’d be a nobody because his skillset is really quite average.
Chris Paul is more John Stockton / Jason Kidd in that he’s a pure PG who gets by on abilities rather then physical talents…and like Stockton/Kidd he’ll likely still be producing effectively when he’s 39-40 years old, because even if he’s slower he’ll still know how to play the game.
rose for me is a 2guard in a point guard position..clearly paul is the standard pure POINT GUARD.look at nash,kidd and the other greats and you’ll see paul’s similarities with them. and now look at davis,marbury,iverson,francis and you’ll see the similarities they have with rose..where are those respectable veterans now? rose is a freak of nature but age will kill him but paul can still play at a very high level in the age of 30′s to 40′s..for me the only thing that separates the two of them is BBIQ..paul’s is out of this world..that’s a fact and age can’t remove that from him..rose?a physical specimen that lessens his game when he gets old.. rose even admitted that he really lack the BBIQ that for me every greats had..Very High Basketball IQ is a gift and is rare in the history of the nba. paul demonstrated that even in his rookie year playing like a veteran and even much better than the veterans on that year..but for rose he is just a freak of nature in his rookie stint making incredible, spectacular plays that really need a very strong body..he learned many things right now but compare to paul’s? pauls is just a genius…Basketball IQ>Athleticism.. but ROSE is really awesome man..but paul is just the best POINT guard.respect for these nba players man.
Gotta go wit rose just cuz of his potential. in just 3 years in the league he has improved his game so much. and all he talks about is improving his game constantly. he takes over constantly in the 4th (although ill admit its cuz the bulls relay on him to and i hope they keep improving their own game to take as much pressure off of him as possible) he is focused, doesnt care about his stats n stuff like rebounding cuz on a team like the bulls he doesnt have to worry bout crashing the boards. he is already pretty clutch (gotta work on those freethrows wit the game on the line though against teams like the heat when the pressure is at its highest but i have no doubt tat he will overcome tat) the sky is the limit for rose so as long as he keeps working to get better and keeps improving at this pace im going to always take him over chris paul just cuz rose has way more potential
rose’s team makes him better while cp3 makes his team better.. go figure..
Rose only took his team to the Eastern Conference Finals while winning MVP
why dont u tell me who in the bulls can create their own offense without derrick rose? not to mention how much of a liability boozer’s defense is.
dont even mention how the clipper is winning right now, because they got better players this year + the young talents had matured since last year.
D-Rose hands down
Chris Paul is the director of every Hornets and Clippers game….he’s simply the greatest point guard no doubt about it
Chris Paul is better …. a true PG, can do pretty much everything, if you put Chris Paul in any team, in any system, they are going to win
Derrick Rose … is more a slasher, you cant put Derrick Rose in any team ….
interesting. must be weird that both drose and westbrook are on the number 1 seed
Rose!
i agree w/ this article…
if my team is surrounded by talented player i would love CP3 on my team…
he compliments other players with his talent and decision making…
his not a score first guy…
he is like Stockton, he can find you when your open…
though if you like explosiveness on your team, a threat on both ends of the court and get the crowd going…
it would be rose..
either way they are both awesome!
Rose..
Thinking ahead of time it shoud be CP3, simply becouse of his ability! While getting older Rose will slow down, and have to change his style of play, becouse he won’t be able to run down the court all the time, and Paul(like Steve Nash) will still have the ability to run the whole offence for his team, even if he is 40 years old!
u forgot cp3′s awesome knee, i will bet cp3 going to retire before drose hit the slump
D-rose is amazing he took his team to the number 1 spot. CP3 hasnt done that in any of the years he has been playing. CP3 can take over a game as we seen him vs. the lakers in the playoffs but rose has been working on his shot as you see he has improved. he is still young and isnt even in his prime. I take Rose cause of his explosiveness and quickness. he just a must have on a team. But you shouldnt ever forget about d-will only cause he is on a bad team doesnt mean he isnt one of the best.
Basketball is about winning and Chris Paul has NEVER beaten D Rose.
Rose is not what a point guard should be, which is sometime fun to watch, and can result in something good if given the right circumtances, like 4 guys who are willing to work for you. but PG is supposed to be the guy who works for others, and CP3 is all that.
If we’re talking short term, right now, I’ll take CP3. He commands the flow of the game and sees everything on the court.
But, if we’re talking any kind of long term deal, I’m going Rose. Bigger, faster, stronger, YOUNGER. Rose has been leap-frogging himself every year he’s been in the league, but one of the things he hasn’t quite developed is that Nash-like ability creep all the way through a defence. Rose right now drives with the intent of scoring, and drives at overdrive speed only, but once he figures out how to switch pace the way CP3 can, it’s all over. He’ll be unbeatable.
To cap, CP3 now, Rose in two-or-more years.
This entire debate is ridiculous. Both do the best they can with what they have. Give D. Rose a second scoring option like Griffin and he would produce the same highlights. Give Paul the responsibility of being his teams primary scorer and he would produce some great highlights. I would say raw talent Rose has more, but CP3 has a lot as well and he does a phenomenal job at combining distribution and scoring. End of the day if I choose only one it will be D. Rose, but hey I’m a Bulls fan. But I can still give a grounded perspective and say that CP3 is just as good, if not better, of a “point guard” as D. Rose. D. Rose is a scoring machine because he HAS TO BE. What choice do the Bulls have? The comments I see on this topic all revolve around what the two have done in the past, which stems from what they have to work with. I don’t think D. Rose would be quite as “inefficient” if he had more options to work with. We have already seen what CP3 has done with less so lets not even go there. Not to take anything away from CP3 but I think the difference between the two is this: If Rose had the pieces Paul has….he could do what Paul does….If CP3 had to carry the load that Rose does…he could not do the job that Rose does. Just my thoughts…..
its like asking 10 yrs ago if you would pick t-mac or jason kidd..
guys please stop it okay we all no that it is about wining so who is the MVP ?
D rose right so why it is the MVP cause he all ways find the way to win the ballgame so
at end the day that’s what everybody want !!!! so CP3 still can’t do nothing against D ROSE it been
couple games now remmenber
CP3
guys please stop it okay we all no that it is about wining so who is the MVP ?
D rose right so why he’s the MVP cause he all ways find the way to win the ballgame so
at end of the day that’s what everybody want !!!! so CP3 still can’t do nothing against D ROSE it been
couple games now remmenber
1. Because MVP votes are always increadibly biased towards teams with good records, and Chicago finished with the best record last season.
2. Because MVP awards are usually as much about popularity as they are about ability. Rose scores lots of ponts (failrly inefficiently) and he sells lots of tickets, plus he plays for a big market team that gets lots of attention.
Put Rose on a bad team and nobody would say a word about him…
You mean like put him on a 50-loss team and watch him take them to the playoffs every year and best record in the league last year? As he accumulates the experience CP3 plays with now, he will only get better.
Rose All the way no doubts….
OWNED!!!
Rose is only scorer, Rose uses only his athleticism, Rose has poor court vision… I just wait for someone to write that he is poor on defense
I don’t know how old are you guys but I remember reading exactly same things about The Other Guy that played for chicago few years back:)
D-Rose doesn’t even know how to play a pick and roll game. His basketball IQ is only about finding the holes in the defence to penetrate. He can’t make others well and this is a team game. Paul on the other hand, makes incredible things with just basics,like pick and roll. None can win a championship without a good team and CP3 just makes the team better.
Let’s be realistic over here, the best Pg in the game is CP3 !!!!
If he can stray healthy this season, he’ll be the MVP and will close this debate for at least couple of years. I mean just look at his game, it’s the closest thing to perfection that you can see on the basketball floor. His decision making, his ability to see the floor, his shoot selection, his basketball IQ are out of this world. CP3 never makes a wrong decision and not to mention how clutch he is when the game is on the line! Maybe after his injury he lost a little bit of his quickness and athleticism, but now we see that they weren’t his greatest attributes. So when it all comes down to choose one from the 2 best PG in the game, for me this is a no brainier decision because I will want CP3 to orchestrate my offense.
DRose is the best basketball player in the world! I’m telling you now that he will have the mvp award this year
The best at present? I think there are a handful of players that would and could dispute that claim easily (regardless of last years MVP).
This is a tough choice, but in the end, I think I would settle for Chris Paul. I just like the way he plays and the way he involves all the team in offence.
Ok, its not all about how well the players numbers are, its about how well the player executes the game to get the team the win.
CP3 doesn’t care if he puts on 2 points or 30.. he cares if his team wins, so if chris paul has to score 4 points one game to win then he does that, although if his team is struggling, he will come out and play with his heart and score big time hoops, something derick rose cannot do most of the time! Chris paul is a tone better then rose, mentally, maybe not physically. Cp3 fg% is a tone higher then roses 40% fg percentage cos he doesn’t take retarded shots like rose, you don’t see CP3 1 from 7 at the three point line like rose, do you? you don’t see 30 shots taken a game like rose do you? NO cp3 is a smarter player and a pure point guard that helps his team more to get the wins, thats why cp3 is better!
That’s why the Clippers have a better record than the Bulls, right?
id pick paul because he is more of a true pg…. when the faed each other derrick rose strngth didnt frightn him.. he actuall schooled him in every way even though chicago won… he is also a better decision maker and closer… id like to derrick rose as more in a 2 posiion
this isnt even a question, its drose all day. with a talent cp3 has around him,any point guard could do what he is doing. He only makes it fancy. drose has noah,asik,boozer who cant even dunk on a nightly basis are you kidding me??? its drose.bro
If you want to sell tickets, you choose Rose. Media and fans love him because her scores a ton of ponts and does it in a flashy way that excites the cameras. Look deeper into his statistics (try 82games.com) and you’ll see that as a pure PG he’s average in just about every aspect of his game, including scoring (he only scores a lot because he gets to the line plenty, and takes a LOT of shots).
If you want towin a title, then you choose Paul. He’s a genuine leader who makes people around him better and he doesn’t need to score to win a game for you. He’s the best all round PG in the NBA and quite possibly the only player in the NBA at any position that has no real weakness in his game.
rose the YOUNGEST MVP!!! he didn’t have the pieces but still did good
CP3 is nice but he have a potential all star cast, look what D.rose have to work with, the only potential all star player is may be Deng. Rose is not even at his prime yet just imagine when that couple of years begins. I clearly will take Rose over CP3
LeBron James is better than those two. Better than Magic. Point Forward. Don’t hate.
Tough choice, but Rose has been a favourite of mine since last season, and he is displaying unselfish yet spectacular play and enough maturity to not only make him a stellar talent that is fun to watch, but also a potential champion. His impossible layups that he makes with so much consistency make even Griffin’s dunks pale in comparison, I think.
i mean to decide is who will win one on one? obviously it will be rose, more explosive and a scorer
Tough Question but put it this way. Rose had a better season last year and so far he is playing better then Paul this year. As can be seen in the MVP race. Thats all that is needed to see that Rose is better right now and since Paul is in his prime and Rose has a ridiculous amount of potential it is unarguable that Rose is the better choice.
DRose for 1 on 1, CP3 for 5 on 5.
CP3 is a drama queen and he is trying to emulate LeBron bad behaviour. Rose has much better attitude, I hope the success won’t change him too much. As players, both are very good but I choose Rose over CP3 because at this time Rose can be a role model for young kids while CP3 is just a very good ball player with bad attitude.
of course derrick rose is better. when the bulls are playing everyone crowds on rose and he can still be awesome
One position does not win a Championship. Let’s not lose site of the goal. If I’m talking about players to fill out my All-Star Rosters, these two guys would make the squads. If I have to take one to start on my team…it’s D. Rose! In my opinion, he gives the team the best chance to win.
Making the others look good is fine, but it’s about the result. The Clippers are 6 games over .500 right now. With so few games played, that puts them 3rd in the West. That is very respectable.
The Bulls are 13 games OVER .500 (the TOTAL number of wins by the Clippers). You might reference the “Team” mentality of the Bulls here. That comes from Rose. Not only is he a phenomenal player, but he has the team falling in behind him. What’s right for “the team” is every players motto.
That’s a leader in my book. That is getting everyone involved.
Definitely Rose. I don’t need to write a lenghty justification for this choice, because majority of the voters in this poll and the NBA GMs agreed with it already.
Chitown D.Rose. no doubt about it.
STATS CAN BE DECEIVING so dont just base these things on stats so like who is more clutch i would say they are equal. Who is more versatile obviously its cp3. But the real thing is that when cp3 was in the hornets and had nobody cp3 still got them in the playoffs but i cant say D-Rose did it all by himself. he loul dang ho would make the big shots when rose was out.
all those big men and i have to say that the offensive rebounds is a big factor in making it so far in the playoffs and D Rose dont get offensive rebounds. carlos boozer can also score and the bulls actually have a great bench like Kyle Korver the three point shooter Ronie Brewer and my man TAJ GIBSON! so Rose aint do it all for the bulls and when rose was out this year the bulls aint loose a game but once against memphis so they are a good team and last year when cp3 was out the hornets weren’t good for nothin so CP3 is better right now
oops i meant the bulls didnt loose once BUT against memphis
I’ve read the comments, many of you have made good and rational cases about Chris Paul and D Rose. But I’m going to prophesy right now…Derrick Rose will become the best point guard the NBA has ever seen. It’s only a matter of time when the Bulls start winning championships.
CP3!!!
they forgot Kyrie Irving. haha jk
isnt the point of being a point guard making ur teammates better? controlling the floor and finding open men, rose does none of that, hes like a shorter kobe when he was in his prime. paul has the right package to be a point guard, rose wont continue to perform consistent for the upcoming years, he relies to much on his athleticsm and speed. for example carlos boozer came to chicago as a key player, well now hes not even in the all star balloting why cuz all the attention is at rose. look at paul he came in as a all star to the clippers and now made him and blake griffin, deandre jordan a bigger name becuase of his playmaking.point is chris paul is a better POINT GUARD than rose, rose is a better PLAYER then paul will be or has been
01. Chris Paul
02. Rajon Rondo
03. Derrick Rose
yu must really hate Rose putting Rondo over him….But Rose is number one
A point guard is suppose to share the wealth and feed the other players, and only attack when they play off you. Rose is a great player, but is too selfish. If he were to share the wealth and take less shots in traffic, he’d be better. Until then, gotta go with CP3.
While CP3 may be more “to the point as a point guard”, you shouldn’t base your decision too much on that. Call me biased towards Rose, but he combines two things I like about a player: Win-oriented unselfishness and phenomenal, aesthetic plays. I always liked players with a winning mentality best, no matter how elegantly they played, but if showtime moves are added, it gets even better. Bashing either player at this state seems a little ridiculous to me. None of the two has serious lacks in their playing, they are just different players in different teams, which explains why Rose has more points but more turnovers and a smaller field goal percentage. It will all come down to how they and their teams will develop. If you ask me, ten years from now Rose will be remembered as the greater player. His potential is incredible and right now I do not see a reason to think he will not get even better. I am looking forward to the playoffs…
I Would pick Chris Paul because he is more clutch in late game situations and is a better closer than d rose Did u see the way Rose missed both free throws against the Heat this year and last year in the fourth of a big game in the playoffs against The heat missed both free throws the both times under huge amount of pressure he chocked chris paul would NEVER choke on free throws
IN a way point guard version Derrick Rose = Lebron
Chris Paul = Kobe
rose vs paul? not a tough one. cp3 is certainly the best point guard in the universe.
rose is not the reason why the bulls is on top. notice that bulls can easily beat their opponent even rose is injured while clippers can’t win without paul. no one will say D.Rose is the best coz he’s still an amateur kid.
cp3 can score at will and he shows that…….but he looks to make his teamates look better…that is the only thing that separates him from rose
I’m a Bull, but CP3 edges it for me. Better floor general, can still put up 30 if it’s needed, better ast/TO ratio, better pick-pocket. But it is close. Rose is a combo gurad, not a true pg, but 8 asts per game is still pretty good. D Rose is to the Bulls what Matt Forte is to the Bears. He may the most crucial part of his team unquestionably, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t slightly, ever so slightly, better exponents of his trade out there.
i would rather pick jordan farmar over derrick rose. farmar is a true point guard compare to rose.
Apparently you want your team to lose
CP3 all the way because he plays intelligent, no forcing or anything! But much respect to DROSE
I’m more of a D-Rose fan but I’m taking CP3. The thing about CP3 is, he can be your go-to guy while being able to run the offense smoothly and do things on the defensive end. That’s what I need on my imaginary team: a pg who can score when needed, get everyone involved and defend; all on a consistent basis. With a pg who can the spread the floor the way CP3 does, the team’s a lotta times more dangerous and unpredictable. Having a pg like D-Rose who takes over the scoring load, on the other hand, can either make your team deadlier or put your team in peril ’cause once he is shut down, he either resorts to running the offense or cause the disruption of the offense (the latter was proven during the Eastern Conference Finals when the Heat effectively shut down D-Rose and the Bulls’ offense became ineffective).
If Chris Paul is better in every category BUT PPG.. how is Derrick Rose a PG?
Put it this way….if the NBA was having a really fantasy draft…..top ten off the board in this order would be 1)LeBron 2)Kobe 3)KD 4)Wade 5)Dwight 6)Rose 7)Melo 8)Blake 9)Dirk 10)CP3
I pick Chris Paul. He is a true point guard. D-Rose is a shooting/point guard.
That means D-rose is better cause he has less holes in his game and can play shooting guard.
Neither. Give me Brandon Jennings over both of these cats.
I swear you guys that keep saying Derrick Rose isnt a true point gaurd he is a shooting gaurd is kiling me! They are both Point gaurds they play different…WAY diff. Sorry, but Derrick Rose was put on a bad team and yet got his team to the playoffs rookie year..He won MVP last yer for a REASON because NOah and Boozer our two starters sat out for 50 games combined and who got th best record that year? THE BULLS beecause of Derrick Rose carrying his team. If you want someoen quick..EXCITING…Fun…MVP callabor on ur team..then its DERRICK ROSE all the way
I agree Rose is too good to put into words so I take him every time. Without disrespecting CP3, Rose has gone out and made a good team great, CP3 on the other hand has been made to look just as great (and he is great don’t get me wrong) by the athleticism of the clippers, Rose can do what CP3 is doing if he is put in that position, CP3 can’t do what Rose is doing if the tables were turned.
better pg cp3 better player d.rose and how can you say chris paul is built better for the playoffs when d. rose just came from the eastern conference finals with that being said im from chicago so my choice is a given
I’m starting to get sick and tired of all you guys saying D-Rose is better simply because he took a “bad” team to the playoffs! Seriously, the Bulls aren’t a “bad” team even without D-Rose! The Bulls are one of the best defensive teams in the league and D-Rose is not the reason for that! Have you seen what the Bulls were doing without D-Rose? They lost just ONE GAME! Does that make you a “bad” team? Definitely not! If we turn the tables, D-Rose could probably do what CP3 is doing with a little thing called adaptation, though probably by a lesser bit. On the other hand, with CP3 as the Bulls’ starting pg, I think they would still be atop the East, probably even with a better record! Let me point out the reasons why the Bulls could be better with CP3. First off, have you seen what Deron Williams did to Carlos Boozer in their Utah days? He got Boozer involved and in the process, turned him into an All-Star and one of the best power forwards in the league! So what’s happening with Boozer right now? He’s become a mediocre power forward ’cause D-Rose isn’t getting him involved! With CP3 at pg, we might be seeing the Carlos Boozer we saw in Utah again! CP3 could also make the most out of Luol Deng, a guy who has been proven a scoring threat. We’ll never know what he could do with the other players; maybe he could turn Joakim Noah into a scoring threat, also! And with all that coupled with the Bulls’ great defense, we might be seeing a deadlier team than the D-Rose Bulls!
Yes nuff said! cp3 wins this..I dont know why people rely on scores as well fancy moves of rose. look at D.jordan B.Griffin their stats got better even the whole team. lol cp3 shines this year becoz he evolve the clippers not becoz he have Griffin and the CIty. Cp3 almost got the mvp award but given to Kobe that time. mostly east teams are not that good compare to west! Pacers Heat 76ers east contenders while west have dallas Lakers denver OKC spurs, look at that!
I would still prefer Rose over CP3, Chris Paul is hardly as visionary as Steve Nash let alone Deron WIlliams, he’s just flashier, Great for a highlight reel, Horrid for a PG. No disrepect to CP3 but he’s too fragile, wayyy too fragile to be the best PG in the game. the greats like John Stockton, Isaiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd (I’ve left a few out but screw it) they were tough. You have to be and CP3 isn’t.. Derrick Rose is. In terms of Pure points neither are contenders, they’re just the most popular, Kidd, Nash or Williams would take that title with ease. In terms of the position in general DRose wins hands down.
Don’t pin Jordan and Griffin’s success on Chris, they’re a year older as pro’s, therefor a year better.
Coming from a clippers fan, Derrick Rose, Younger, taller, more physically fit. hasn’t reach his potential yet. Figured it out quickly at a young age. And he made it to the NBA finals without no help. Doesn’t need a Blake Griffin to Win and make it far in the playoffs.
Bro Rose didnt and wont go to the NBA Finals. He went to the eastern conference finals what a big difference yo.
Brandon Jennings and Steve Nash.They is the better looking. Who Would you rather see on a poster and sell your products.
ricky rubio is better those name…..
OH. No-brainer. CP3, OFCOURSE. Try to put rose with Chris Paul’s Hornets, they wouldnt even managed to get to the playoffs with rose. Rose, scores more because he shoots more. He shoots way too many shots, though that’s what he should be doing. Rose is a good player and all but CP3 is way better than him. Chris Paul can score at his own will if he would like to, but he is a true point guard, rose maybe can compare with cp3 as an athlete but as a point guard, rose is far from Paul. And please, try to watch a whole Clippers Game, you can see how CP controls the game brilliantly, he can do whatever he wants to do in a game. Basketball is not just about stats, watch both of them play a whole game and youll see who’s better.
I mean there is no need for this discussion! Ofcourse its CP3! Look @ his resume, rose is good and will undoudtedly get better but PAUL has done it for years in new orleans and now in L.A. if longevity and cosistantly putting up high lights doesnt make you the best @ what you do then what does mabye a couple years of success and future possibillity (not for me though) IT’S PAUL, CP3 all the way .
Truly silly argument that doesnt hold an ounce of water. No comparison, just watch when they matchup, Rose dominates him.
Viewed head to head it isn’t even close…..CP3 is a great player , but D-Rose works him over every time.
if anybody thinks Rose over Paul then you don’t know basketball. Simple as that. Rose is HANDS DOWN the 2nd best PG in the league, but Chris Paul is the epitome of a point guard. People just look at the fancy numbers and stuff but watch the game, study the game, and the question isnt even a hard one.
You know nothing about the game of basketball. Sorry dude, it’s really not that close. Rose is clearly the better player. just go back and watch the matchups between the two teams. Rose was clearly the better player.
Derrick Rose is 4-0 vs Paul in his career. nuff said
Agreed. So Drose vs CP3 is 4-0, so…
everyone who says that CP makes his teammates better but drose doesn’t, must be saying that CP3 can make his teammates better, just not better enough to beat drose and his team?? HOw much sense does that make.
Then they will say…”well, cp3 hasn’t been with his team as long, and his team isn’t as talented as the bulls”
Even though the clippers arguably have some of the best sheer talent in the league. And as far as chemistry, I thought that cp3 was able to make his teammates better and cure the chemistry problem, like a “true” pg.
Where drose dealt with an almost completely new core last year than his rookie year, and with that new core, led his team to the playoffs and a MVP award.
So basically those who defend paul will always say he is the one who makes the team better when they win, and make excuses for him when they lose. Even though he obviously can’t influence a team’s skill enough to beat however much derrick rose wills his team to win
People keep saying “well, 1 on 1 I would take rose but 5 on 5 I would take paul” even though, CLEARLY, when rose and paul play 5 on 5, Rose comes out on top.
every time
just the same when cp3 was compared to dwill few years back that cp3 never won against him..but right now who’s on top between the two of them?cp3..and ryt now against drose this time..4-0 against cp3?/i just dont understand why all of you keep on comparing the both of them.they are different. rose is a 2guard in a point guard position..his incredible, athletic ways to break down defenses just remind me of baron,iverson,francis,marbury where when they get old they diminished suddenly. paul’s way of destroying defenses is way much better and as many said a master,genius in the basketball court controlling the pace no like no other player in the leauge..he can be effective this way for so many years ask nash, kidd and stockton (LEGENDS)..BASKETBALL IQ matters in basketball next to skills because you can have a very long legendary career when you have it..BBIQ is so rare in the leauge and just a few of them have it such as paul’s and he’s on top regarding BBIQ in the leauge and even in the history of the game..but for a freaking athlete with incredible speed,etc needs a YOUNG body and knowing that the nba is a season where they play 82 games a season and this season where they play back to back to back in 60+ games is just so demanding to a player and that will kill drose..he kills everybody because he have those monster physical attributes that will suffer when he gets old ask baron davis,francis,marbury and iverson..where are they now compared to nash, kidd and even stockton(HOF)?.. i like drose. his skills is much more of a 2 guard though and when he gets old with possible injuries oh man..i dont know..he cant play like paul’s way but still we dont know but history shows us that he will really suffer with lesser athletic ability.he even admitted that he doesnt have the BBIQ compared to paul’s which is so out of this world. a fact is that you can learn but not the extent of a natural gift of a very high BBIQ that paul had even in his rookie year..for me paul.no disrespect to drose..im still a fan of his but for a POINT guard? gonna be paul..
CP3 is a GREAT player, but all you have to do is watch the matchups between these two to see that D. Rose is clearly the better PG. I’d sure be happy with either, but it’s really not that close.
a pg with who had knee injury? thats one of the biggest reason i would choose drose over cp3. why else i pick drose over cp3? ability to penetrate so hard that the defense just collapse.
rubio for me will be the next great POINT guard..rondo also but they need a shooting range that can be improved when playing the nba..rondo is just way too good of a defender than rubio though..and i love how they control a game just what a point guard must be..but paul’s game is so complete..the three of them have the high basketball IQ that is so important in a player ESPECIALLY of a POINT GUARD who carries the responsibility in orchestrating the game but again paul’s BBIQ is very very high even in his rookie year..were talking about POINT guards right?rose’ game is not a description of a POINT guard..he plays just like the other 2 guards in the league. the difference is he’s in a PG position which is not what his position should be.for me rubio is much better described as a point guard than rose..
first off d-rose and cp3 are both point guards ok…so really at the end off the day rose can run the floor the same way cp3 can ok and if he hasn’t shown that then he sure is learning how to be a better point at his age…therefore cp-3 has no chance to every be on rose’s level in any sense because if you could switch players cp3 would be in a jam and asking out while rose would still be winning…
Everybody knows D-Rose is better. Too big, too strong, too fast, and just too good. Anybody who would choose CP3 is a hater and is choosing failure. Chi-town all day. CP3 can’t hold a candle. That’s why the Bulls beat the Clippers and will continue to dominate and destroy everything and everyone in their path on their way to victory and the 2012 NBA Championship.
when you’re looking for a REAL POINT GUARD what comes to your mind first…a guy who can score and create a lot situations or someone that besides creating and scorring can PLAYMAKE, LEAD and MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS when the game in on the line…oh oh i gorgot…a bonus…without TURNING THE BALL OVER MUCH
I say right now Paul is still the better PG. He is a true point guard. Paul also is better all around. Rose is much younger and still has potential to be even better. Rose is more of a scorer first and depends on his drive. Can not always depend on the drive especially come playoff time. If I had to pick one for my franchise though I would go with Rose. He is durable, younger and not prone to injury at this time.
Hands down CP3 is a better point guard though. Rose is more like a Small SG. Crunch time in the playoffs against a good defense is when you will see CP3 outshine Rose. CP3 has the ability to control the pace of the game as a point guard. If shots are not falling for ROSE he is not effective.
Rose is better. NO EXPLANATION!
just look at the hornets this year
they went from a playoff team to 4-20
It’s already a given that CP3 has better basketball IQ at this point of his career and plays in the mold of a true point guard while Rose is more athletic and a better scorer. However, Rose does not whine, does not demand a trade and may seem less “composed” on the court than Paul but Rose is all business. Rose will decline in athleticism but he will not decline in talent because he will keep working on it. Rose has the mark of true humility in him, in that he self-deprecates but actually does try to improve year after year in quiet confidence. And his potential to grow at this point is limitless.
CP3 was the one who demanded a trade – practical and realist, but more people including me, can appreciate the heart and will that Rose brings on the table.
and now look at jeremy lin!! you know why he is now the point guard of the knicks and winning games in a row? Basketball IQ guys?he is a harvard graduate playing basketball (with basketball skills) in the point guard position..that’s a very great combination..he has the IQ that is also high..that’s what i mean of a point guard..