Felton For Miller: An Even Swap?

HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS — Veteran point guard for a little bit older veteran point guard.

It sounds like a reasonable take away for the Portland Trail Blazers and Denver Nuggets in their draft night dealings that saw Raymond Felton go from the Nuggets to Trail Blazers and Andre Miller from the Trail Blazers back to the Nuggets, where he played earlier in his career and resides in the offseason. While it wasn’t actually a straight up swap — it was a three-team deal that included the Blazers also trading swingman Rudy Fernandez to the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for the draft rights to Jordan Hamilton, the 26th overall pick who was in turn included in the deal with Denver — for the Nuggets and Blazers it comes down to a swap of these veteran point guards.

A NBA scouting friend suggested to me earlier today that it was basically an even swap.

“Miller is older at 35 but these guys do pretty much the same things,” he said. “They know how to run teams, are effective on both ends and they both have plenty of playoff experience, so you know they understand the dynamics of the job they have to do in a winning situation.”

But I’m not so sure.

Miller is a seemingly ageless wonder, much like his point guard elder statesmen brethren Jason Kidd and Steve Nash. But Felton is just 27. And he has always struck me as guy capable of so much more than he’s shown. He was on the road to showing off exactly what I’m talking about in New York last season, when he played All-Star caliber basketball, only to be traded to the Nuggets.

You put him at the controls of a Blazers team that boasts LaMarcus Aldridge down low and Brandon Roy and Wes Matthews on the wing with his old buddy Gerald Wallace (they played together in Charlotte) tossed in for good measure, and I’m seeing big things for Felton in his new role.

Rather than arguing back and forth with my scout friend I thought we’d let you help end this debate:


  1. scotty says:

    win for all but portland; rudy went too cheap; and many of us in portland vlaue rudy and diD not want to lose him; miller is ball-greedy, old slow, and takes too many bad shots. BIGGEST WINNER: THE MAVS. BIGGEST LOSER: PORTLAND

    • breeze_abn says:

      well rudy didnt want to play in portlnd anyway so its not a huge loss and andre has abt 2 decent yrs left. so to get felton was a great look. the nuggets get a solid back-up and can focus on ty lawson with dre as a mentor. seems like everybody did well to me

  2. Rhamee Badr says:

    Andre Miller one of the most accurate shooters in the league? Are you freakin kidding me, that’s a joke? How did you come up with that? But yeah this is a good trade for all involved, but sick for dallas; they need another scoring option outside of dirk and terry, especially with barrea perhaps leaving. For all his flaws, fernandez definitely accomplishes that. At the very least he makes the d hesitate a few extra seconds before doubling dirk.

  3. Juanita says:

    Why in the world didn’t Denver keep Chauncey Billups in the first place? He should be in Denver INSTEAD of Andree Miller!

  4. FredF says:

    Denver got the best of this deal. They HAD to trade Felton because he wasn’t accepting the back-up job. Usually, when a team HAS to make a move, they get the short end of the stick in the trade. But Andre Miller is no consolation prize. He’s one of the top ball handlers in the league, and one of the most accurate shooters as well. And very importantly, has no problem backing up Ty Lawson….not to mention the fact that he can mentor Lawson in ways that the erratic and sometimes sloppy Felton could never do.

  5. dallas jam nowski says:

    its not fair at all…. the MAVS as usual WIN EVERYTHING hahahahaha

    • GARY says:

      alot of people in portland wanted to trade rudy for a ball-boy good luck, maybe he can turn it around

  6. twolves4life says:

    Yup, the people below basically covered it. Nugs were making room for Lawson and getting a mentor. He could also end up serving as a trade chip because of his contract situation

  7. Jon says:

    Boo, I wanted Felton on the Lakers. Hopefully they can get Nash for cheap (if he wants a ring to finish things off, which I’m not convinced he does) or Aaron Brooks (if they decide he’s a wash as a backup)

  8. AJ says:

    Felton isn’t even close to all-star calibur, good offense for the knicks equates to average at best player elsewhere. Sure Miller is a good defender, but he is a top third in the league floor general that can score a lot of points, A serious team like Denver would much rather have three good years out of miller than five mediocre years from Felton in a point guard dominated league.

  9. JazzMania says:

    The age gap is pretty large and needs to be taken into account. But Blazers gave up Rudy as well. This really is a win/win for both teams. Andre Miller does not cease to impress in his ripe old age as an NBA professional.

    • Niko says:

      Actually it’s a win-win-win for all three teams.
      I agree on Miller tutoring Lawson and Raymond playing on a Trail Blazers team that’s definitely going to be a contender next season.
      The Mavs players said it themselves: Portland was the toughest team they played in the playoffs which included the Lakers, the Thunder and the Heat.
      Lastly the Mavs are going to get a great shooter in exchange for almost nothing – no offense to Jordan Hamilton, but he is just a late first rounder and the chance that he could become better than Fernandez are slim.

  10. JR says:

    Raymond was unhappy playing in Denver, he said it months ago. Would have been bad to keep him anyway. And Felton & Lawson pretty much have the same kind of play, which is a waste. Miller can play smaller minutes and brings something different, plus experience. Nuggets’ guards need that. With Ty, they didn’t need Felton performance wise. I think the trade’s good for both teams really.

  11. elitej3 says:

    i think the trade was made so the nuggets could have solid all around play at the point off the bench and in the starting position while be able to give ty lawson the starting job

  12. atlhawks says:

    what people dont realise is that raymond was playing behind ty lawson at denver with limited minutes so him going to portland is good for him and the denver franchise + they get a veteran point guard in andre miller who will help ty lawson in achieving his potential

  13. Joseph V says:

    At first I was really mad about this trade because I thought Felton was worth more than Miller, but it’s not as bad as I thought. Jordan Hamilton could be good, and Andre Miller can help develop Ty Lawson.

  14. Eddie says:

    I like them both. Very workmanlike performers who can make their teams better. I’m especially looking forward to seeing the blazers team with a full training camp under them. Having Wallace, Aldridge, Camby, Matthews and Felton as my expected starters and Roy and 6th man (if he is comfortable with that role) would be a very credible threat to 4th or 5th place in a very good western conforence. Hopefully Oden can also get fit because if he gets the offer sheet and stays, that makes Blazers look good for this year.

  15. Lee says:

    Lawson will shine and learn alot on Miller’s presence and Felton will be an all-star in Portland

  16. R Jackson says:

    I think this is a good story in pointing out the fact that this guy will serve this team well. http://littleurl.net/f5cabe I read that article about how Lawson welcomes and even aided in this.

  17. lord p says:

    welcome back A.Miller…i’ll be happy to see you again with nuggets uniform..!!Denver got a lot of talented players and need an experienced PG like him to make them play at the top!!

  18. Rip Greenfire says:

    I can see where you’re coming from, but Miller is gonna be a much better backup PG for Ty Lawson, and he’ll also teach Lawson a thing or two, much like Billups. This deosn’t mean the Blazers walk away the losers. Felton is also good point guard who’s still young enough to run and gun with a younger team. That’s why I think both teams are better. Blazers are gonna have to figure out this whole Wes/ Roy thing though, and should I even mention Oden? Also the Nuggets have a lot of free agents that they don’t want to lose, so this summer should be interesting for them.