StatsCube: The West Effect

As we await word on David West‘s MRI results, we fear the worst. A torn ligament would end West’s season and make the Hornets short-handed as they look to clinch a playoff spot in the final 2 1/2 weeks of the season.

According to StatsCube, the Hornets have been a better offensive team with West on the floor and a better defensive team with him on the bench.

Hornets efficiency, 2010-11

West on/off MIN Pace Off. Eff. Def. Eff. Diff.
West on floor 2450 90.6 105.7 102.4 +3.3
West off floor 1034 92.3 99.3 98.9 +0.3

Pace = Possessions per 48 minutes
Off. Eff. = Points scored per 100 possessions
Def. Eff. = Points allowed per 100 possessions

The defensive numbers are somewhat encouraging, but we have to remember that, when West is on the bench, the Hornets are likely defending against second units that are weaker offensively.

Obviously, the trade the Hornets made at the deadline looks more important now. Marcus Thornton may be putting up big numbers in Sacramento, but Carl Landry makes for a somewhat suitable replacement at power forward with West out.

Landry’s numbers with the Hornets compare pretty well with West’s numbers for the season…

Player comparison

Player G MIN Pts/40 eFG% TS% Usg% FTA Rate OREB% DREB% TORatio
West 70 2450 21.6 50.9% 55.8% 23.5% .314 7.7% 18.9% 9.53
Landry (with NOH) 13 284 17.3 53.8% 57.9% 18.4% .323 7.8% 9.2% 13.06

eFG% = (FGM + (3PM*0.5))/ FGA
TS% = Points / (2 x (FGA + (.44 x FTA)))
Usg%. = Percentage of possessions used while on the floor
OREB% = Percentage of available offensive rebounds grabbed while on the floor
DREB% = Percentage of available defensive rebounds grabbed while on the floor
TORatio = Turnovers per 100 possessions used

Defensive rebounding is the area where Landry falls short, but Landry has been a slightly more efficient scorer in his short time with New Orleans. And the Hornets’ offensive efficiency with Landry on the floor is encouraging…

Hornets post-trade efficiency, 2010-11

Landry on/off MIN Pace Off. Eff. Def. Eff. Diff.
Landry on floor 284 90.7 107.4 103.5 +3.8
Landry off floor 426 92.4 104.3 103.6 +0.7

Of Landry’s 284 minutes with the Hornets, 120 were played with West. And the Hornets were actually pretty awful with the two of them together, scoring just 99.7 points per 100 possessions, and allowing 115.3. That’s bad offense and atrocious defense.

At this point, West has been a part of each of the Hornets’ 10 most-used lineups, including a starting lineup — Chris Paul, Marco Belinelli, Trevor Ariza, West and Emeka Okafor — that has played 882 minutes together. Interestingly, coach Monty Williams has yet to use a lineup where Landry replaces West and plays with the other four starters.

Landry has played with each of the other four starters, just not with them all together.

Hornets post-trade efficiency with Landry on floor

Landry with MIN Pace Off. Eff. Def. Eff. Diff.
Chris Paul 159 93.2 116.4 102.2 +14.2
Marco Belinelli 137 90.1 107.8 108.6 -0.8
Trevor Ariza 115 93.9 108.8 107.8 +0.9
David West 120 90.4 99.7 115.3 -15.6
Emeka Okafor 67 90.2 115.7 98.2 +17.5

Of those 159 minutes Landry has played with Paul, 77 have come with West on the floor as well. And as noted above, the Hornets’ defense has been awful with the two power forwards together. Playing more minutes between Okafor and Ariza, Landry’s defensive numbers are sure to improve, as long as the Hornets can make up for the rebounds they’re losing with West out.

So all is not lost for the Hornets should West be done for the season. Replace him with Landry and they still have a solid lineup. Obviously though, New Orleans will lose the frontline depth they boasted when they acquired him. More so than Landry, it’s time for Aaron Gray or Jason Smith to step up.

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  1. PeggySue says:

    Thats what they get for trying to wear gold at home like the Lakers :p
    I feel for West though, but at least he wont have to play while they get kicked in the playoffs
    Go LAL

  2. jmL| says:

    too bad…
    even w/ west…
    there’s no chance 4 them to beat mavs/lakers anyway..

    good to see them though
    back in the playoffs…
    but it will be a short one…

  3. Patolatotoy says:

    Too bad for the NOLA but if west is there they have chances to defeat L.A. im not fan of nola but the way they play with west i think so. and if cp3 gets back his old form. they can be a contender. but even west is out they can beat the MAVS,SPURS if you realy watch NOLA basketball they are very good. but lack of offense and bench scorers.
    .Also cp3 shouldnt be going to the knicks! epic fail. look at the knicks now if they were on the west they cannot go to the playoff. and they have billups there. NOLA should have a good SG. and good bench team. So they can be a good solid contender to the west. Go thunders.

  4. Man the Hornets nooooo there not goin to mak it past the 1st round this year either i mean even with west it doesnt matter i see them as the weakest team in the western conference playoffs so it doesnt matter who they played i dont even see them beating the 8th seed whoever that mite be LETS GO SUNS but anyway cp3 has slowed down a bit also Hopefully he gets out of der in the offseason go to the knicks cp3 the hornets arent where u need tu b

  5. faithb4fear says:

    hornets are done! pack up your bags its gonna be a long summer NO.CP3 is not the same guy he was 3 years ago anyway there play off run was gonna be a short 1 anyway.

  6. Jake says:

    Without West the Hornets def. efficiency is…blah blah blah. They lost their second best player, and that hurts them significantly as a team and as a franchise. How significantly remains to be seen. I feel bad for the Hornets right now.

  7. Garry Williams says:

    one last thing and im out aaron gray is not getting utilized … his defense is suspect but monty williams has to give people fair chances .. his a good coach but not playing marcus thorton and then to trade somebody that can drop the ball in the basket at a moments notice is insanity , but i really get irratedted that trevor just drives and throws up B.S at the rim thinking he is guranteed a foul ..cp3 was robbed by kobe for mvp lol still bitter

  8. Kingsfan says:

    You know none of this matters, with West or not they will not beat LA or Spurs first round. Even if they somehow got the 6th seed, they can’t keep up with the pace of the Mavericks. Actually, Dallas’s only really hope of getting to 2nd round is facing NO in my opinion.

    • SEA PEA says:

      what are you talking about? Almost every time the Hornets have played the Mavs, they’ve come out on top. So suck it!

      • Garry Williams says:

        exactly hornets can beat the spurs or maverickes anyday of the week … we just dont stand a chance against the nuggets or the lakers everybody else well have to bring there a game

      • prix says:

        Hornets beat the Lakers or the Mavs w/o West…thats crazy…even with West they dont stand a chance thats why they’re no.7 and possibly out of the playoffs

    • J Steve says:

      Kingsfan, you commented without knowing facts. The Hornets have done well against the Dallas Mavericks the past few season. Facing Dalls might give New Orleans the best chance the advance to the second round. New Orleans going to Dallas and winning a game has not been as big of a challenge as Dallas having to go to New Orleans and win one. I guess you don’t really pay attention to Hornet’s basketball but that okay. I hope you enjoy watching us in the playoffs.

      • Kingsfan says:

        I was more referring to Dallas’s possibilities of advancing. I don’t think in 7 games that New Orleans can keep up with Dallas. However, I didn’t say there was no way NO couldn’t win, I said I thought it was Dallas’s only chance of getting to the second round because if they play Portland or Denver I think they lose.

        Again, I’ll reiterate that was just my opinion. I think it would be great if Paul could get to the 2nd round, but like the first sentence in my original post stated it doesn’t really matter because NO won’t get past the 2nd round.

        Funny how somebody expresses opinions and people throw dirt like they just insulted them lol

    • RIOT says:

      exactly…even with West, I dont see them as a contender this beat L.A or MAVS…just keep on dreaming dudes…Paul isnt that good as what you think

  9. Garry Williams says:

    chrisi paul well get the team continuity back , because thats how we win anyway jason smith will step up , but we definetley need trvor to play some basketball , but the money 15 footer will be missed but cp3 will step up

  10. got_watcha_want says:

    The depth loss will kill them in the first round.

  11. joey singapore says:

    pull out rasheed wallace out of retirement, maybe he could help 🙂

  12. yoyo says:

    without west, they are outsized by everybody, and they are playing a lot with the teams that are in play-off pursuit, w/o west no chance for them

  13. jay says:

    yeah they will do fine. they got carl landry

    • Hasib says:

      Meh, as long as they stay in the playoffs they’re going to be ok. I say that because even with west how are they to beat lakers/mavs. Obviously upsets are always possible but yeah unlikely.. Now that I think of it, I’m actually happier with NO having less of a chance to upset now, I really like the top 3 out west

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    • prix says:

      first round exit for the Hornets…they could not beat L.A even with West or even the Mavs with Chandler