Cavs, Clippers swap point guards

The Los Angeles Clippers and the Cleveland Cavaliers have finalized a trade that sends guard Baron Davis to Cleveland for guard Mo Williams.

The deal includes forward Jamario Moon going to L.A. The Cavs also get the Clippers’ 2011 first-round Draft pick. Cleveland now has two first-round and two second-round picks this year. They also have a $14 million trade exception that could be used before the deadline.

Davis did not dress for Wednesday’s game against New Orleans with what the team said was a sore knee. Williams returned for Cleveland just before the All-Star break after missing 13 games with a hip injury.

The Cavaliers would be able to absorb Davis’ $13 million salary by virtue of the large trade exception they received from Miami in the LeBron James sign-and-trade deal. Williams has a $9.3 million deal, but has player options this season and next season. However, NBA.com’s Scott Howard-Cooper reports that as part of the deal, Williams waived the early termination option on his deal for next season, meaning he won’t be able to opt out until after the 2012-13 season. Moon’s $3 million deal expires after the season.

Though slumping from the floor of late, Davis has played much better for the Clippers after starting the season at odds with coach Vinny Del Negro when he came to camp out of shape. Williams reached out to Cavs fans via his Twitter account before the trade was finalized.

“I wanna say thank you to all Cavs fans,” he wrote on mogotti2. “It’s been great. We’ve had some really good yrs and memories. I will never forget u guys.”

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  3. the_watcher says:

    I wonder if anyone who thinks this trade is bad for the Clips has actually taken any notice at all of Barons overall er contribution – not to the Hornets or Warriors – but to this franchise in his time there. Best season? probably when he averaged 15 odd points a game at a league worst 37%. Oh but wait. He actually managed 15.3 ppg at .406 with 8.8 assists the following year, with a .277 strike rate from downtown. Not quite one third of the over three 3pfg attempts he jacked up every game that season. The worst part for me was not his knees or other assorted injuries, but the obvious lack of desire and application at times for a player that was one of the premier playmakers and game changers in his self appointed prime. Smart move by the Clips to move him on as his attitude could be toxic in time to a young roster. Should he have gone to a contending team as other quality players are generally afforded in the twilight of their career? Would have been nice, however that luxury tends to go to veterans who have left it all on the court for their former franchise. Hard to say that happened here in this case. Good luck Mo.

  4. Nifty760 says:

    why??? the LAC are so dumb 4 this trade… now we dont have any good feeders as BD… were gonna have 2 build off Eric Bledsoe now n trust him 2 learn how 2 shoot… haha WOWW at least trade Ryan Gomes cuz he aint even that good… another thing BD jus got his shot back n now we replacin him wit Mo who has no chemistry wit Blake SMH
    finally we got Eric Gordon back tho… cuz Randy Foye is an alrite spot shooter if that… all we need is a good SF we needa bring back AL THORNTON BACK… so @ starters Eric Bledsoe Eric Gordon Al Thornton BG n Chris Kaman if healthy… if not DeAndre Jordan… cuz well be good wit Mo comin off bench

  5. talk about a really bad trade, mo williams? he’s not a PG he’s a ball hog with bad court vision

  6. Clips Fan says:

    In my opinion this was a strategic move for the Clippers. They gave up an old, but good, point guard for a good, young one. Although Williams has injuries, Baron Davis is getting destroyed by his knee. In the end game, Gordon has enough fire power to hold his team up. The Clippers are starting to make moves now that the West has become much weaker, although they won’t be getting anywhere this year, they are setting themselves up for next year with a lot of money to spend and a strong, young core. I will miss Davis, but I feel that his “leadership” needed to be phased out, I mean come on?!?! Making a move to the basket with 4 seconds left doesn’t help. I understand Mo Williams has not shown anything in the passing category but Gordon and Griffin are good 1 on 1 players. If you think Griffin won’t get any ally oops then you are mistaken, because any ball thrown into the air is almost surely a dunk for Griffin!
    Go Clips!

  7. Uira Beirao says:

    “Varejão is not going anywere”
    As a brazilian fan, i loved to hear that.
    ‘though he’s hurt, he’s passionate an plays with great hustle.
    Best of luck to the Cavs

  8. Bhargav says:

    Trading Baron for Mo???? Who will feed Blake now?????

  9. richuncle says:

    Kaman and D.Jordan are two of the best frontcourt players on the Clippers along with Blake, why not start those 3 together with Bledsoe and Aminu. That would be the best starting 5 on the clippers. Clippers have some of the best young talent in the NBA, they just need to put a team out there that works together and can dominate. Using Kaman as a backup for DJ and putting Gomes or butler at the 3 has not worked.

  10. LACLAL says:

    Great trade for the clips its basically a salary dump they are basically looking towards the future they can develop Eric Bledsoe or with CP3 most likely going to free agency they have cap space to get him. Clips right now suck from 3 point line Mo is a way better shooter than BD…Moon might not be a great player but he is a way better defender and rebounder than any SF Clips have. This year draft is going be very weak so losing a pick wasn’t so bad. I Feel bad for BD playing his best year but he is getting old and injuries are starting to become a problem from him.

  11. jason says:

    Sigh. Another episode of the Donald Sterling/Clippers tragedy. I wonder how long it will take until they trade Griffin for a draft pick? What a dumb-diddy-dumb-dumb trade. Mo Williams? Really?

  12. Jamie S* says:

    I wonder how “Baron Davis” feels about this move. Most players of his statue, and at this stage of their career would feel kinda like, if you’re gonna move me, at least trade me to a contender, instead of a team thats building. Give me a chance at winning before my career ends. I know he butted heads with “Vinny” and he should enjoy playing for “Byron Scott”, but its so much turmoil there. He will be needed as a leader immediately!! God Bless!!

  13. jero says:

    damn, clippers DOWNGRADE!!!! baron is playing great basketball this year while williams? oh arghhhhhhh, clippers are loosing not because of baron, its because GORDON got hurt.. clippers org. you suck!!, should have waited for gordon to come back with kaman now back on the court.

  14. richuncle says:

    The Clippers needed to dump Barron, I just hate them givving up a number one pick for that. Eric Bledsoe is the PG of the future for the clips. Clips will be a better team without Barron but they should not have givven up their number one pick to get rid of him.

  15. LA AC says:

    I see no reason for the Clippers to make this trade, as the chemistry between Davis and the youth was beginning to develop. The team was playing close to elite basketball before Gordon got hurt.
    Furthermore, since the Clippers have no real chance of making the playoffs this year, they are giving up a lottery pick for Jamario Moon, a HORRIBLE swap.
    If cost was the reason, as it most often has been throughout the Clip’s time with Sterling as owner, this deal will most likely be viewed as another disastrous move by Clipper management.

  16. bean says:

    if u ask me its an even trade now the clippers need to find a way to dump ryan gomes that guys numbers up as an nba player he has no business starting he is the weakest link, and has no business playing at this level.

    • warblade044 says:

      bean, you are wrong. gomes is a good player. he’s underrated as a defender and a glue guy. kaman should have been traded along with aminu to bring in a stronger sf and another big that is mobile and plays defense. getting rid of baron for mo is good because mo is not only younger, he’s a better shooter and he makes better decisions. plus, mo has a better motor than baron and the clips don’t have to be worried about mo struggling to stay in shape

  17. clipfan44 says:

    As a 10 year clipper fan, and 2 year season ticket holder, I have mixed feelings on this trade. Although Baron is getting older and has a bad knee, I feel like the clippers was the perfect spot for him. It’s obvious that the clippers were trying to mimic that 05-06 playoff team when they had with cassell, brand, mobley, etc. Cassell was getting older, and lost his athletism just like Baron is, but was still the most important piece for that team, along with Brand. He controlled the tempo and was a true leader. Getting Mo Williams reminds me of how the clippers were assembled in the early 2000′s, just a bunch of young, super athletic guys, playing scrambled basketball. It was exciting, but wasnt winning games. Although Mo is 28, he still plays scrambled and it’s no surprise that in 05-06 they brought in a veteran guy with basketball smarts to run the team in cassell, and they nearly got to the western conference finals. This is the year Baron finally gets to run a good team, and right away, we trade him!? Just watch a clippers game when Baron is on the bench, it looks very scrambled cuz the guys are so young. Yeah, still a lot of espn dunks, but way more turnovers! I think we would have been better with Baron for next year, but who knows, maybe we will be better with Mo if he can learn to run a team. And all the comments about Mo was good with Lebron are true, but LEBRON, being point-guard like most of the time ran that team, not Mo. I think Mo will need to learn how to run the Clippers youth, which i dont see happening any time soon. The only way I think this deal could make sense for the Clippers is if they felt like Baron’s knee was gonna keep him out most of next season, or the money of course, which might be the case. Either way I’m still a clipper fan and hope it works out for us and Baron, people gotta feel bad for Baron though, he was playing so well with Blake and Gordon, and was genuinely excited about being a clipper.

  18. Aaron says:

    What a stupid trade for the Clippers. I swear we as fans could do a better job as GM’s why would you trade your man who runs the show so well to get the young guys involved for a shoot first point gaurd who instead of getting his team mates involved is too busy worried about getting his shots (Shaq) No way in the world this will improve there record.

  19. Waiz says:

    The truth is that we dont know if it was a good or a bad deal, until we scan see theam playing. But gotta admit your points are very true .

  20. Sadee says:

    wow..this is really a surprise move with the clippers. i was hoping that they would trade Chris Kaman away to a more of a solid center. And i dont see in anyway that this trade does any good for the Clippers. Baron was playing better and making the team work. he was playing great this season. And what do Clippers get in return? Mo and another bench warming Small Forward? Why couldnt they trade Chris Kaman and some other SF they have to get a better small forward or a center. Clippers arent going anywhere now.

  21. ClipsFan77 says:

    How can Clipper fans not agree with this trade??? Look at our record, its time for something new because obviously it aint working thus far. Mo is mediocre at best but so is Davis and is paid $4 million more. Lets see what happens!

  22. LArsenal says:

    I actually think this is a very good move for the clips ..
    Mo has become a leader for the cavs, and he can create his own shots ..
    I admit he is not a better passer than BD, but with Griffin’s ability, throw it on top of the empire state building and He’ll still dunk it ..
    Now the clips can rely on either Gordon. Griffin. or Mo in the final 1-2 minutes to close out the game ..
    Great start to build a team ..

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  24. Erik says:

    We will miss you Mo…regardless of the jersey you’re wearing, a standing ovation awaits you upon your return to Cleveland.

  25. Mark says:

    Barron must be pissed. And Mo can’t thank God enough..lol When was the last time a player would rather be a Clipper over a Cav?

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  29. IMakeItL00kC00L says:

    Davis may be old but his not done with his carrer. he can still dish the ball to guys like Hickson in the middle. On LAs side of the story, mo will be comfortable with blake and jamario miht start because they need that experience. The biggest piece though, is the lottery pick because the cavs have 2 for this upcoming draft and the draft pool will be very deep so they might find 2 franshise players. Also, jamario could give aminu a little more experience on the position but he will obviously be gone next year. Overall this was a good trade for both teams but i think tha cavs win this down the road because of the lottery picks.

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  31. Jesse says:

    why is everyone hating on mo williams? people saying lebron feeding williams the ball?? first that not 100% true and plus mo williams was doing good for the milwaukee bucks. That proves that mo williams does not need lebron to be a good player. heck williams averaged 17 ppg in milwaukee. I think mo williams is a quality point guard. I don’t really agree that much but you got to remember the clippers are tired of being in the draft lottery any ways. They want mo williams and to get rid of baron davis. I think mo williams will fit in well and actually better with the clippers. Because mo williams will be even better as a 3rd or 4th option(chris kaman) with the clippers. He is also a good passer. This trade not all that bad. Williams won’t have so much pressure now and will probably do well with the clippers. Can’t wait to see the clippers next year. mo williams, eric gordon, blake griffin, and chris kaman. I don’t know who the 3 spot will be. Clippers should be able to make the playoffs next year.

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  33. Sean says:

    this trade will work well for the clippers if mo accepts the same role davis did- facilitator with a little bit of offense to go with it, if you think about it, it might work out well for the clippers because opposing defenses have to pay attention to mo shooting so maybe he can create for his teammates there

  34. celticsbabyyaaaaaaaaaaaaa says:

    Horrible trade for the clips. They are losing because Gordon is injured…

  35. kevin says:

    done deal. tsktsk too bad. I don’t like this trade. Baron Davis is getting better again and why would you give your first round pick for next year if you are at the bottom of the standings? what are they thinking?

  36. worst trade says:

    My sentiments are like a couple of other. Clippers have shot themselves in the foot. BD’s off the books next year, and a first rounder from the 6th worst team in the league???? All for Mo “combo guard” Williams and Jamario “Ill never be better than Aminu” Moon??? This is a horrible deal. I would do, if a gun was to my head, BD for Mo and JM, but honestly with LAC’s players this trade makes no sense.

    Great for the cavs tho! Good grab!

  37. die hard fan says:

    neither team got better. BD is actually a better point guard overall but he just doesn’t have the focus or the drive. He got a litttle back this season because he saw what an asset he has in Blake Griffin. The chemistry was great there. They just haven’t been playing good lately because Gordon’s been injured. they beat the Lakers, Miami, etc. That’s not the move they really needed to make. But leave it to the Clippers to screw things up.

  38. LO Fan says:

    I am sure the Clipper’s front office is very, very happy. They get rid of the Baron, who has proven to be un-trustworthy (he just does not put in the effort that should be expected given his star salary). They get a CHEAPER point guard that may well be better, probably never worse.

    I am sure Cleveland is also very happy. They get another 1st round draft pick from another losing team. Baron might work hard for them. Baron is used to being on losing teams.

    For certain, the Cavs make it clear that they can be the home for the most unmotivated highly talented players. That might make Cleveland the place for other Clippers players to retire to. Sorta, but not really at all, like NYK is trying to become the preferred destination for highly talented players that may feel its actually time to start winning.

  39. Zoompulsar says:

    Stupid, bad Choice!!!!

  40. Darin B says:

    This trade is good for both teams. For Cleveland, it gives them a building block (Lottery pick) to add another young player and also Davis can be serviceable so there is no major drop off this year and going forward at the point. LA gets Williams who is 3 years younger and has put up better numbers for the last 3 years than Davis has (and that was before Griffin folks arguing that he chose not to score so Gordon and Griffin could thrive). They also get a decent role player in Moon who has an expiring contract (he won’t be back). Thus, the Clippers got rid of Baron’s ridiculous salary of about 10 million per year and got younger without losing experience. Anyone that thinks this was a bad deal for the Clippers doesn’t know basketball.

  41. OKboy says:

    yea very bad trade on LA half but good for Cavs

  42. peter xxx says:

    Good trade for LA, bad trade for Cavs.

  43. iggybiggy says:

    Lets be real,Mo didnt feed Lebron the Ball, Lebron fed Mo the ball. Mo is not a good player, he is a little shrimp that pretends he is a baller just like that shrimp Daniel Gibson.

  44. Treerollins says:

    I agree, this was a terrible trade. Baron Davis didn’t NEED to score in that system, that’s what Gordon and Griffin are for, and Baron had accepted his role…something a lot of NBA players could learn from. Mo Williams is a scorer, pure and simple, I wouldn’t even call him a point guard. Baron fed Blake Griffin better than anyone he’ll play with the rest of his career, and he stuck up for him and taught him. The Clippers need to do some things to get to the next level, but trading Baron Davis and a 1st round draft pick for a scoring “point guard” was not it.

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  46. kinglobo says:

    good move for clips cuz even tho baron been playin a little better the clis save so much money and look at the stats mo puts up the same numbers as baron

  47. CasperD says:

    Dumb Trade for both teams…you finally get LA Clips clicking and actually playing competitive basketball for once and leave it to their owner to mess it up again…Baron is playing good and the whole group is playing good together, to me they cud sneak up next season and grab a nice playoff spot…not theres no chance really

    and for the cavs? they need to hope that baron started out bad because of confidence…hes been playing good lately…but if your rebuilding then mo williams is alot better to build with thatn baron and a first round pick…younger..better fit for that team…but i understand the want for another 1st round pick…dont know what LA was thinking on this one…just like al their other ones though lol

  48. TimDuncanfan says:

    Although I understand everything everyone is saying about this being a bad move I actually like it. As far as this season goes its a terrible move, Davis is much better for the clippers right now then Mo williams,however; for next season and the future moving ahead Williams is a much better choice. Baron is nearing the very end of his career, keeping him on the clippers over Mo Williams is stupid because hes going to be spening more time on the bench then on the floor with gordon griffin etc. Williams is the future, Davis is for the rest of this season, and ill take an educated guess and say i dont think clippers are moving to the playoffs or contending for a title this year, so go for Mo.

  49. its because eric bledsoe has played way better then many expected

  50. chris says:

    What ´s wrong with the Clippers management???
    Few years ago, Zack Randloph for absolutely nothing, now Baron Davis + 1st round draft pick (!!!) for what? Mo Williams! The guy who said he would stop his carreer when Lebron James left, and who was once all-star only because James by himself brought the Cavs to the top of the conference + Jamario Moon…

    Davis is better than Williams.
    A first round draft pick (one of the 15 first picks) is better than Jamario Moon.
    So, really, whta´s wrong with this management?

  51. ....... says:

    LOL i did the same trade on nba 2k11 a couple of days ago davis for williams lol

  52. JoeMommma says:

    could be a long shot, but Mo did flourish with a strong PF next to him before. I think the trade benefits both Cavs and the Clippers.

  53. baldy says:

    YEAH TRUE THAT BUUT BARON DAVIS IS A VETERAN AND HE KNEW WAT IT TAKES 2 WIN A GAME

  54. Don't do BDavis says:

    Don’t do it Baron Davis. You already made a bad move going from GS to LA, although he came up with Griffin, but going to the cavs just is not worth it

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  56. Chris says:

    Another dumb trade in the NBA before the deadline. I think many of these teams are trading just for the sake of trading. Baron Davis was the team leader and him being there was a god send for Blake Griffin. Now he won’t get nearly as many feeds with Mo Williams, Mo is not the same type of player as Davis. Davis/Griffin was a very good combination but I don’t think Williams/Griffin will be nearly as effective. Any bit of promise the Clippers showed this year, is now gone thanks to this dumb *** trade.

  57. None says:

    Let’s be honest, BG will prove to us that he will score with whoever is feeding him the ball… shoot I could be out there getting 5 assists off him

  58. baldy says:

    THAT IS A BAD BAD TRADE FOR THE CLIPPERS BARON DAVIS WAS THE VETERAN IN THAT TEAM AND HE WAS THE ONE THAT THROWS ALL THE GOOD ALLEY OOP TOO GRIFFIN… CLIPPERS KILLED IT

  59. jON says:

    @allstar

    you’re talking alot of crap about how good Mo Williams is but you forget, HE’S MO WILLIAMS!!!! hes no chris paul he can score and wat not but the doesn say crap, he can’t defend better than Baron, he facilitate better than Baron, he can run a system better than Baron, face it, Mo Williams is a loose cannon with a nice shooting touch

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  62. mitun says:

    horrible decision for many reasons.
    1. like many people said, baron was finally buying into the system and contributing heaps to eric gordons/blake griffins development by accepting his role as a facilitator. of course he had injuries, btu thats something we cant control.
    2. mo williams is not a true point guard. hes more of a scorer. now, the scoring load has to be shared between three people who look to score the ball as a primary option, aka not a good situation.
    3. baron davis didn’t always have the best attitude, and mo williams is even worse. when lebron left cleveland, a little bit of news went unheard through most NBA fans. Mo williams seriously contemplated “retiring” because he was so upset with lebrons decision. do the clippers really want a baby like that around?
    4. we gave up a draft pick too!? i thuoght we already got rid of mike dunleavy, what in the world is going on??? now of course this draft kinda sucks… but thats what they said about the 2009 draft. the same draft that gave up the likes of players like darren collison, marcus thornton, omri casspi, roddy bebouise( mispelled lol) dejuan blair, taj gibson, and OH SO MANY other productive players OUTSIDE OF THE LOTTERY PICKS!
    5. bottom line. im a laker fan, but ive become a clipper watcher this year because blake griffin and BD made it so dam entertaining. i’m not sure this whole mo williams thing is gnona work out like the clippers think it is, but i guess it’ll be fun tryna figure it out.

  63. steveo says:

    hope BD doesn’t pass the physical. then he can stay a clipper

  64. JMoon says:

    No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Jamario is leaving me!

    This is OK for Cleveland because of the 1st round pick, but BD is absolutely wortless otherwise.
    On the other hand, The Clips are getting a decent PG in Mo, plus an outstanding defender (not to mention yet another dunker) in JMoon. I don’t know much about the Clippers, but I wish the Cavs hadn’t traded for the worst PG to ever touch a ball.

  65. Senju says:

    I guess that means their going with Eric Bledsoe as the point guard of the future. I always thought Mo would be better off the bench

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  67. Gregory Neely says:

    Dumb Dumb Dumb PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  68. Grant says:

    I think this was a dumb decision, baron davis was right where he wanted to be. I don’t know why they gave him up for Mo Williams, a “young point guard” (mo williams is only 3 years younger than davis…yea he’s really young). He might be a decent fit for the clippers, who knows, but baron davis was the heart and soul of the clippers team, I don’t know how they’re going to fare without him.

  69. rayray20 says:

    OF ALL THE TRADE THAT JUST HAPPENED FOR THE LAST 24 HOURS, THE CAVS/CLIPPERS PG SWAP IS NOTHING BUT A TRASH!!! THIS IS A WIN(CAVS) – LOSE(CLIPS) RESULT eventhough they’ve got a (hope to be) a 2011 first round draft pick, I DON’T CARE!, what matter is that, the DAVIS/GRIFFIN CONNECTION is gone!! I LIKE MO [WILLIAMS] WITH HIS PG SKILLS BUT HE ALWAYS WANT THE BALL IN HIS HANDS! C’MON! EVEN LEBRON IS GONE AT HE STILL MAD, HE CAN’T EVEN CARRY ON HIS OWN, WHY WOULD HE STAY THERE!! FOR ME, THIS IS A BAD MOVE FOR THE CLIPS! YOU BLEW IT AWAY!

  70. BackWhenThingsWereBetter says:

    Talk about bad trades for both teams. i know clipper need a better SF, but trading baron davis for mo will will just hurt the team. Mo will isn’t the kinda guy that can create space and dish out assists like davis.

    But hey, maybe it’s part of a bigger plan, maybe a three way trade?

  71. Onilogabmil says:

    Clip trade attitude pg. Viny can coach now.

  72. 3PeatLA says:

    Talk about a DUMB move!! Well what do you expect from the Clippers organization?? Blake Griffin will be in LA for years but wearing the Purp n Yellow!!! You trade BD for Mo Williams and Moon, thats good if you just want to dump BD’s contract but you give up a 1st round pick?? Come on thats just DUMB!!!!

  73. Bryman says:

    I really hope this trade does not go down. Baron Davis is one of the best point guards in the west (assist wise) and he fits into the Clippers offense perfectly. Baron Davis knows how to throw lob passes to both Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. Mo Williams plays more like a shooting guard compared to an assisting point guard. If this deal goes down, we are all going to witness the true down fall of an NBA team (LA Clippers). Right now all the Clippers need is a decent SF who can actually score. This will probably be the worst trade the Clippers have had in the last couple of years..

    • Bryman says:

      Honestly, the Cavs don’t need a point guard. They have Ramon Sessions who is a GREAT backup point guard and has rising potential. Stupid trades and GMs just ruining basketball teams left and right

  74. boom says:

    DON’T BE STUPID NOW LA, MO AIN’T GONNA DO YOU ANY GOOD.

  75. clipper fan says:

    its not a bad trade. clippers need more role players and shooters around blake griffin. blake is always doubled and many times the open looks created by the double does not go in. they only win games when their shooting is great from the outside. they could build a team like the last houston rockets champions, where olajuwon was surrounded by shooters. baron davis is not doing a bad job with the clippers but i think the clippers want to find the right group of guys to contend for the playoffs next year.

  76. Jeff says:

    Are you serious? listen up clippper management i will not be a clipper fan if you make mo loser william a clipper!

  77. cris says:

    i hope this trade does not happen mo williams is not a pass first guard or the type to set plays and we all know how “alive” he comes during the playoffs. atleast with baron davis u got a guy who the younger guys listen to and knows how to set up plays.

  78. Winklor says:

    I hope this is about cap room. Else the Clippers once again have found a way to shoot themselves in the foot. Someone has to guide the kiddie-club and Mo Williams isn’t the one who can do it.

  79. Bob says:

    Deal already happened Baron + 1st rd pick for Williams and Moon

  80. Please dont do it says:

    I hope the clips dont go through with this deal it would be verry stupid giving upp a first round pick .. looking at next years draft class there are some potential good young pieces that can be placed around griffin … and as a (former) cavs fan and (present) clippers fan i can confidently say that mo williams wont make any one any better BD on the other hand might help out the young guys and it really seems like he and griffin have connected ..

    • 3PeatLA says:

      I agree with you!!! They should have kept that 1st round pick, could have drafted Nolan Smith from Duke!!

  81. Jason - Cruise says:

    BAD DECISION CLIPS!!!! HOPE IT WILL NOT COME INTO A DEAL… BARON IS THE LA CLIPS.. BARON IS THERE LEADER.. TEAM DOESNT NEED LOTS OF YOUNG PLAYERS.. THAT ALWAYS HAPPEN TO THE CLIPS.. PLAYERS COMES AND GO.. BUILD THE TEAM WITH BARON AND BLAKE!!!!

    • Allstar says:

      U CAN’T BUILD THE TEAM WITH BARON N BLAKE..BARON IS OUT IN 2YRS..U GOTTA THINK 4YRS FROM NOW..IF MO GETS BACK TO THAT SAME PACE HE WAS ON PLAYIN WITH LEBRON N SHAQ, CLIPPERS WILL BE GOOD PERHAPS PLAYOFFS. BARON IS GDOING A GOOD JOB, BUT BLAKE IS MAKIN BARON LOOK GOOD. ANYBODY COULD TOSS BLAKE A ALLEY,ITS NOT HARD AT ALL..THIS WILL BE GOOD FOR MO CAUSE HIS CONFIDENCE WILL BACK TO WHAT IT WAS WHEN HE KNIEW HE HAD BACK UP WITH LEBRON AND SHAQ…GOOD MOVE FOR THE FUTURE.. KEEPIN BARON WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR HIGHLIGHTS, BUT HOW FAR U THINK HE GONNA TAKE THEM CONSIDERING HE PROB 2YRS LEFT…THEN WHEN THOSE TWO YRS ARE UP, AND BLEDSOE ISN’T READY, THEN WHAT..BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD..AS AOPPOSE TO KNOWING MO IS GOOD WHEN HE WANTS TO PLAY, AND HE COULD A CLIPPER FOR A LONG TIME PENDING NO TRADES..SO THEY ALL COULD GROW TOEGTHER FOR 4-5YRS.. IF BARON STAYS FOR 4-5YRS MORE, THE CLIPPERS WILL BE ON A DELCINE INSTEAD GETTIN BETTER.. BY THEN BARON GONNA BE WAY TO OLD, AND NOBODY WOULD EVEN WANT HIM ON THE BENCH

  82. Terry says:

    Ok lets look at this deal, Mo Williams for Baron Davis… Dont worry about Moon that dude will get cut when his contract expires!! They just drafted a young SF c’mon now. Mo Williams plays NO defense and he chokes during in the playoffs period. This is a very bad move, Mo wouldn’t even pass the ball to Lebron you think he is gonna share the rock with Gordon and Blake?? Mo Williams is an average set shooter at best. He will get abused by elite PGs in this league again and again and get his Big Men in foul trouble. Then throw up that whack jumper he thinks he has… Terrible move, I hope Bledsoe steps up, cuts down on his turnovers, and gets his bball IQ up to par with the Pro Game.

    • Allstar says:

      MO ISN’T A GOOD PLAYOFF PLAYER, COULD BE LEBRONS FAULT..SITTING AROUND WATCHIN ANOTHE RPLAYER TRY TO SCORE AND THEN PASS U THE BALL WHEN CAN’T PUTS PRESSURE ON U. u RIGHT BOUT MO NOT PASSIN BRON THE BALL SOMETIMES, BUT HTOSE WERE DAYS WHEN LEBRONS JUMPSHOT WAS SUSPECT AND MO WAS CLEARLY A BETTER SHOOTER THAN LEBRON..ALL THOSE WINNING SEASONS CAVS HAD MO PLAYED A HUGE PART…ALL THE ELITE PG ARE GREAT PG’S AND THEY’LL ABUSE JUST ABOUT ANYONE, INCLUDING OLD BARON DAVIS…MO JUST NEEDS HIS CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAM AND HIS PLAYERS AROUND HIM, WITHOUT THAT U GET DISCOURAGE AND DON’T REALLY CARE BOUT CERTAIN THINGS WHICH IS NEVE R GOOD FOR THE TEAM…THIS WILL BRING BACK MO WHERE HE ONCE WAS, ONE OF TOP PG’S DURING THE REGULAR SEASON.. PLAYOFFS WRE HARD, CAUSE HE HAD TO DEFEND RONDO, AND RONDO IS AN ANIMAL, AND ON DEFENSE RONDO FRUSTRATED HIM LIKE HE DO EVERY OTHER PLAYER..THIS IS BOUT THE CLIPPERS GETTIN YOUNGER AND GETTIN A GUARD NOW BEFORE BARON RETIRES IN 2YRS AND THEY’RE STUCK TRYIN TO FIND A GUARD AND HOPING BLEDSOE IS READY BY THEN. THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE LETS TRADE BARON NOW WHILE HE STILL HAS VALUE, BEFORE HAS THAT BAD SEASON…HONESTLY BLAKE MADE BARON LOOK GOOD THIS YEAR..ANY GOOD PG COULD PLAY WITH BLAKE..ITS NOT HARD TO THROW HIM A LOB

      • Terry says:

        Ok I give you that Blake is a Monster and any PG can look good playing with him. Yet, Defense is about EFFORT. Mo is one of those guys that just wants to play offense, then sit back in a set zone defense with minimal responsibility. Now if the Clips made this move to put themselves in a better position to get someone else out of Mo Williams… fine I hope it pans out. Before any of that comes to past Mo has to start playing ball!!! Yeah everyone wants to have great teammates because it makes the game that much easier to play, but these MEN are all professionals. They get paid day in and day out to go out there and produce at a high level. You cant get down on yourself and go into “I got picked last in kick ball” mode because a player you like playing with moves on. Mo talked so much crap about how everything was gonna be ok when Lebron left. He talked a good game for the organization and didn’t produce. Many players have been the only real options on there teams for years. Ray Allen – Milwakee, Allen Iverson – Philly, Kevin Garnett – Minnesota, Kevin Love – Minnesota… You see where I’m going they make the best out of a bad situation. I just dont see Mo Williams having that type of character. Do you?

  83. Anthony S. Bond says:

    Well, i can’t i’m surprised. Mo Williams isn’t exactly a franchise changing player, but, he’ll be a nice piece to the puzzle. I don’t know what his contract is like, but I hope the Clippers can retain him for a few years. He’s rather young, so maybe he they can build around him and Blake. Me, being a Clippers fan, I like this trade, but any trade is a good trade.

    • Allstar says:

      FINALLY SOME ONE I THINK SEES WHAT I SEE, AND KNOW MO WILLIAMS BEFORE THIS SEASON..MO IS A GOOD GUARD, HE’S JUST IN A BAD SITUATION.WHEN THE CAVS WRE ON TOP EVERYBODY WAS SAYIN MO WAS A BETTER ALL AROUND SCORER THAN LEBRON BECAUSE HE COULD SHOOT BETTER, HANDLE THE BALL BETTER..NOW SINCE HE HAVING A BAD SEASON HE SUCKS..THIS TRADE WILL BE THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO MO..THIS WILL BRING BASKETBALL SPIRIT BACK THAT WAS KILLED WHEN LEBRON LEFT AND HE WATCHED HIS TEAM LOSE 26 STRAIGHT. THOSE THINGS WILL BREAK A PLAYERS CONFIDENCE FOR SURE..IF MO PLAYED WELL ALONG SIDE LEBRON, THROWING HIM ALLEYS AND ALL. WHAT MAKES PEOPLE THINK HE CAN’T DO IT WITH THE CLIPPERS CONSIDERING HE HAS BETTER PLAYERS AROUND HIM LIKE GORDON, GRIFFIN, AND JORDAN’S EXPLOSIVENESS…MO IS GOING TO ENJOY THIS TEAM LIKE HE DID PLAYIN WITH LEBRON…I DEF AGREE WITH YOU, I HOPE THEY KEEP MO FOR A FEW YEARS TO SEE HIM GROW WITH THIS TEAM, IT COULD BEEN EVEN BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW, DEF MORE WINS.. EVERYBODY KEEP SAYIN MO IS SCORE FIRST GUARD..OF COURSE HE WAS ON THE CAVS, HE HAD TOO. NOW HE ISN’T EVEN THE SECOND OPTION SO HE’LL SCORE AND SHOOT WHEN NEED BE.. ITS ABOUT ABOUT GRIFFIN N GORDON OVER THERE.. HE KNOWS WHAT TYPE OF PLAYERS HE HAS ON THAT CLIPPER TEAM, PLAYERS WHO COULD FINISH SHOTS

  84. Skipz says:

    It’s not a bad move for LA considering the contracts these players have. This would only allow LA to have a sign and trade option for next season williams + moon = Better SF… (Batum, Ariza, Gallinari, Chandler type players) :D Bledsoe=Future for clips PG! Cleveland on the other hand has a potential star veteran/bait/mentor for who ever they will have that would imerge as a star.

  85. Kensheebattousai says:

    Once again, the Clippers are going to make STUPID decisions. So what if Baron Davis was out of shape coming into to training camp, he’s had a very solid season, is in good shape, and has chemistry with his team. Why would the Clipps want to trade him and/or Kaman (who’s a legitimate allstar when healthy) for Mo Williams, undersized, weak man to man defender, team defender, poor clutch player, and very poor playoff performer. He doesn’t play back to the basket, he’s been injured a lot, and has nothing compared to an aging Baron Davis.
    I’m really SPEECHLESS while watching how the Clipps are being managed, not only this year, but since forever. Look at the talent they’ve let go over the years, just like Golden State, or Whasington, Clippers’ management staff are dumb.

    • Allstar says:

      THATS THE THING MO WAS GOOD CLUTCH PLAYER WITH LEBRON..MO WAS BETTER THAN BARON STAT WISE BFORE LEBRON LEFT HIM..MO WAS ONE OF THE TOP PG GUARDS. YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE PLAYOFF PART, BUT HE ONLY DID BAD AGAINST THE CELTICS/RONDO JUST LIKE MOST PLAYERS/TEAMS..THIS TRADE BRING S A YOUNGER AND FASTER GUARD.. IF U REMEMBER MO’S PASSING SKILLS WITH LEBRON SHAQ THEN U SHOULD KNOW IT GONNA BE EASIER FOR HIM ON THE CLIPPERS, CAUSE HE WON’T EVEN BE THE SECOND OPTION. CLUTCH SITUATIONS BELONG TO BLAKE, GORDON..SO MO LOOK MORE CLUTCH TAKIN LESS GAME WINNERS. ON THE CAVS HE WAS THE SECOND OPTION AND HAD TO SCORE BECAUSE AFTER LEBRON ONLY HE COULD CREATE HOS OWN SHOT..I WITNESS MO HIT A LOT OF GAME WINNERS FOR CLEVELAND..WASN’T IN THE PLAYOFFS, BUT HE HIT THEM

  86. FCZ says:

    this would be a bad move… replacing a seasoned player. williams has to prove something first.

    • Allstar says:

      WILLAIMS HAS PROVED SOMETHING…WHAT DOES HE NEED TO PROVE. HE PROVED EVERYTHING HE NEEDED TOO PLAYIN ALONG SIDE LEBRON N SHAQ.. HE DID A GOOD JOB FOR THEM. THIS SEASON ISN’T GOING WELL FOR HIM BECAUSE OF LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAM..HE JSU WATCHED THEM LOSE 26 STRAIGHT.. THAT WOULD DISCOURAGE ANY PLAYER.. Y U THINK LEBRON LEFT. HE KNEW HIM AND MO WOULDN’T BE ENOUGH TO DO WHAT HE WAS TRYIN TO DO, WHICH WAS WIN A CHIP..I THINK MO PLAYIN WITH A PLAYER LIKE GRIFFIN WOULD BRING THAT SWAGG HE HAD PLAYIN WITH LEBRON. AND NOW HE HAS GORDON ON SIDE, AND ANOTHER EXPLOSVE LIKE JORADN TO PASS TOO, GOOD LOOK FOR MO CAREER AND BRINGIN HIS CONFIDENCE BACK..KIND OF WHAT THE LAKERS DID FOR SHANNON BROWN..HE ‘S PLAYIN HIS BASKETBALL NOW BECAUSE HIS CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAM..

  87. tim says:

    hate it!

  88. TrueChampionsDontLeaveTown says:

    Why would the cavs do this? – Because Dan Gilbert and Co. has realized that no one in the league wants to go to cleveland so his only choice is to build from outside the league – DRAFT PICKS!

    Why would LA do this trade? – Get ride of a salary attached to a broken body. BD has 2 Years left tops.

    Who benefits? Who cares really, but I would suspect cleveland as next years draft will be a decent one.

    • TrueChampionsDontLeaveTown says:

      BTW, when do the clips need to sign Blake to a long term contract or is that already done? if not…thats also motivation for the clips to free up cash…

      • Allstar says:

        I BELIEVE THEY’LL GIVE HIM HIS BIG CONTRACT EXTENTION PROB AFTER HIS 3RD YEAR…THIS TRADE WAS BOUT GETTIN YOUNGER AND FASTER AT THE GUARD POSITION.. MO WAS A GOOD GUARD BACK WHEN HIM AND LEBRON PLUS SHAQ WRER PLAYIN TOGETHER..SOME PLAYERS JUST NEED TO BE WITH OTHER GOOD/PLAYERS.. THIS TRADE WILL MAKE MO WILLIAMS THE THIRD OPTION ON THE CLIPS SO HE WON’T BE THE SHOOT FIRST GUARD I KEEP HEARIN PEOPLE SAY..EVERYBODY HAS A ROLE AND ON THE CAVS HIS ROLE WAS SCORING BEING THE 2ND OPTION TO LEBRON, THEN THE 1ST ONCE HE LEFT..HE WAS THE ONLY PLAYER WHO COULD CREATE SOMETHING FOR HIMSELF OTHER THAN JAMISON

  89. WG says:

    AWFUL trade for the CLIPPERS
    Barons right at home in LA, and His vetreran expierence and skill level will help Griffin develop. The 2 of them have great on court chemistry. WHat are the Clippers Management thinking????

    • Allstar says:

      GRIFFIN DOESN’T NEED BARON TO HELP HIM DEVELOP..JUST PLAYIN IN EVERY GAME , STAYIN HEALTHY WILL DO THAT…THERE CHEMISTRY IS GOOD, BUT BLAKE IS PLAYER THAT ANYBODY COULD FEED THE BALL TO..HE CATCHES EVERYTHING..MO DID IT WITH SHAQ N LEBRON, NOW HE GOTA FEW MORE PLAYERS TO DO IT WITH..NOT SURE IF U GUYS WERE WATCHIN MO WILLIAMS OVER HIS WHOLE CAREER, THINGS GOT BAD NOW FOR HIM POST LEBRON ERA..ALL BARON IS DOING FOR BLAKE IS THROWIN HIM ALLEYS, THATS NOT MAKIN HIM BETTER AT ALL, THATS HIS SECOND NATURE

  90. quick96 says:

    Clippers are making a HUGE MISTAKE if they get rid of Baron Davis!!! He Blake and Eric Gordon work extreemely well together. It’s going to kill the chemistry and any chance of making the playoffs. Clippers have a history of making dumb trades. Thats why they never win.

    • Allstar says:

      FISRT OFF CLIPS WEREN’T MAKIN THE PLAYOFFS..LIKE I TOLD EVERYBODY ELSE ANY GOOD POINT GUARD COULD CONNECT WITH A PLAYER LIKE GRIFFIN..HE’S JUST ONE OF THOSE TALENTS THAT JUST NEED THE BALL HE’LL SCORE, AS WELL AS GORDON…MO DID A GREAT JOB OF FEEDING LEBRON WHEN THEY WERE TOGETHER AS WELL AS SHAQ..MO JUST DOESN’T HAVE CONFIDENCE RIGHT NOW IN HIS TEAM, AND THIS TRADE WILL BRING THAT BACK, AND WILL MAKE THE CLIPPERS YOUNGER AND FASTER..I LIKE THE TRADE FOR CLIPS, CAVS JUST GOT A GOOD MENTOR FOR THERE YOUNG PLAYERS, AND A PG WHO GONNA MAKE HICKSONS PRODUCTION A LIL BETTER

  91. Ryan says:

    I dont understand this move

    Cavs get a disgruntled Baron Davis who will probably be looking for every way out. A mediocre or struggling stint with the Cavs wouldnt help either. I wouldnt be too suprised if sessions took over starting duties.

    Clippers get some mild financial relief, but Williams has a player option (which he will probably accept) and they give up a top-10 pick? We also all know Davis and Blake formed a decent 1-2 combo. i doubt Williams would fare any better splitting time with Bledsoe.

    • Allstar says:

      I DON’T GET HOW PEOPLE DON’T THINK MO CAN’T CONNECT WITH GRIFFIN.. HE JUST PLAYED AND CONNECTED WELL WITH THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE IN SOME EYES…IF U ASK ME MO’S IN A BETTER POSITION FOR HIMSELF, CAUSE NOW HE DOESN’T HAVE TO BE THAT 1ST OPTION OR SECOND OPTION AND COULD FOCUS MORE ON FEEING HIS TEAMMATES. WHEN HIM LEBRON PLAYED TOGETHER THEY WERE AMAZING TOGETHER, AT TIMES MO SHOWED FLASHES OF BEING THE BEST PLAYER FOR THE CAVS..ANY STARTING PG COULD THROW GRIFFIN AN ALLEY. BLAKE IS LIKE AMARE WHO EVERYONE THOUUGHT NEEDED NASH. ALL HE NEEDS IS THE BALL IN HIS HANDS AND HE’LL DO THE REST, ERIC GORDON ALSO.THESE ARE PLAYERS WHO COULD CREATE FOR THEM SLEVES. ONCE BLAKE DEVELOP A GOOD MID RANGE SHOT, ITS GONNA BE LIKE PLAYIN WITH LEBRON ALL OVER AGAIN PERHAPS BETTER CONSIDERING BLAKE HAS MORE POST MOVES THAN LEBRON OR MOVES PERIOD, PLUS HAVING BETTER PLAYERS AROUND HIM LIKE GORDON,AS OPPOSE TO PARKER, GIBSON..ANOTHER EXPLOSIVE PLAYER LIKE JORDAN WHO MIGHT BE A LIL MORE EXPLOSIVE THAN HICKSON..ITS GONNA BRING HIS CONFIDENCE BACKUP AND HIS FAITH IN HIS TEAM WILL BACK

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  93. great deal says:

    they need to trade ryan gomes and baron davis for mo williams and moon

  94. DeAndre says:

    Stupid move. I would keep BD if I was the Clippers. I mean what would this move actually do for the Clippers….When Baron is playing well he can be one of the best players in the league. I understand he is up there in age, but Mo Williams cant feed Blake & DeAndre Jordan like Davis can.

    • Allstar says:

      IF MO COULD FEED LEBRON THE BALL, I’M PRETTY SURE HE COULD FEED THEM ALSO, IT WILL BE A LOT EASIER FOR HIM MORE THAN JUST LEBRON AROUND AND HAVING 3 PLAYERS WHO COULD FINISH STRONG..PEOPLE WILL SEE MO BACK TO HIM OLD SELF.. REMEMBER I SAID IT. I COSIGN THIS TRADE, WHEN THE CLIPPERS START LOOKIN BETTER REMEMEBR WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS GOOD TRADE..THIS TARDE MAKES THE CLIPPERS YOUNGER AND GIVES THEM MORE YEARS TO GROW..LIKE U SAID BARON IS GETTIN OLD, SO IF U LET HIM RETIRE ON U UR FIRCE TO SEARCH FOR A PG, HOPE ERIC BLEDSOE IS READY IN 2YRS WHEN DAVIS IS DONE, OR U COULD TRADE HIM NOW WHILE HE STILL HAS SOME VALUE..AND U ARE SOME WHAT RIGHT WHEN BARON IS PLAYIN WELL HE IS ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS, BUT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER FOR HIM AS BEING ONE OF THE BEST..FIRST OF BLAKE CAME AND STOLE THE SHOW FROM HIM, AND THERE ARE A LOT OTHER YOUNG PLAYERS BETTER THAN DAVIS IS NOW. BARON IN HIS PRIME WAS GREAT, ONE OF BEST, BUT I DON’T SEE HIM COMIN IN NEXT YEAR BEING THAT BARON HE USE TO BE..HE’S JUST DECLINING…GOOD MOVE FOR CLIPS

  95. umar says:

    this trade is stupid for the clippers

  96. T says:

    I don’t understand this trade…

    The Cavs pick up LAC’s 2011 lottery pick, but they also pick up Baron who makes quite a few more million than Mo and has also shown that he can be pretty injury proned and unmotivated.

    LAC trades Baron, who’d been playing well and moving the ball, for a shoot first point guard in Mo. Mo does make quite a few million less than Baron the next two seasons and Moon is expiring this season, but Mo’s contract is the same length as Baron’s. Mo has an early termination on his contract after this season and a player option on the next, but he’s not passing up the remaining $17 million on his deal. Especially not with the CBA being as uncertain as it is.

    Then LAC gives up it’s 2011 first round pick just for the Cavs to take the few extra millions of Baron’s salary… I don’t get it. I mean, unless they just didn’t want this year’s lottery pick because of not liking any of the prospects and not wanting to waste the money. But even still… Just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

    Pure head scratcher, but I guess this is what you expect from LAC and it’s cheap owner Sterling. He’d better re-sign Jordan this off-season.

    • Allstar says:

      I THINK IT WAS BOUT THE TEAM BEING YOUNG AND EXCITING..BARON DID A GOOD JOB, BUT HIS FUEL IS DYIN, SO U TRADE HIM NOW AND PICK UP A GOOD YOUNG PG THAT COULD POSS GROW WITH THE TEAM PENDING NO OTHER TRADES. PRETTY SURE THEY’RE GOONA RESIGN JORDAN…MO IS A SHOOT FIRST GUARD BECAUSE OF THE POSITION HE WAS IN. WE ALL KNOW PLAYERS HAVE ROLES ON EVERY TEAM. WHEN HIM AND LEBRON PLAYED TOGETHER HE WAS THE SECOND OPTION. SO HE REALLY HAD NO CHOICE BUT BE A SHOOT FIRST GUARD, BECAUSE IF U REALLY REMEMBER THAT OLD CAVS TEAM, AFTER LEBRON MO WAS THE ONLY PLAYER WHO COULD ACTUALLY HOLD HIS OWN AND CREATE HIS OWN SHOTS WITHOUT LEBRON..ONCE LEBRON LEFT MO WAS THE 1ST OPTION SO HE HAD TO BE A SHOOT 1ST GUARD.. PLAYIN WITH GRIFFIN, JORDAN,GORDON,Kaman, WILL BRING HIS CONFIDENCE BACK WHERE IT WAS WHEN HE AND LERBON WAS GOING HARD ON THE NBA..HE PLAYED A BIG PART IN THAT 60 WIN SEASON AND WAS ONE OF THE TOP PG GUARDS ALSO…HE JUST HAS NO CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAM, THE SAME TEAM THAT LOST 26 STRAIGHT AND DIDN’T WIN TIL HE CAME BACK

  97. jON says:

    So half the people here are wrong, trading away baron Davis would be horrific now!! Youre trading away a guy whos taking the likes of eddie jordan,blake griffin, and eric Gordon and turned them into a deadly force within vinny del negros systtem and you think that ever in his career, Mo Williams has passed 10 assists??? Who here remembers the last time without going to nba.com and checking the stats, mo williams is an undersized shooting guard and i think we have a better chance if we are going to trade away baron Davis, of waiting to see if we can get an up-and-coming pg like brandon jennings or even steph curry would suffice but not Mo!! keep him in cleveland until he learns how to play team ball…

    • Allstar says:

      ONCE AGAIN GRIFFIN, GORDON WOULD BE GOOD/GREAT PLAYERS WITHOUT BARON..THEY’RE NATURAL SCORERS AND PLAYERS WHO COULD CREATE THEIR OWN OPPORTUNITIES…JORDAN IS JUST REAPIN THE BENEFITS OF PLAYIN WITH A PLAYERS LIKE THAT SO U KIND OF LOSE SIGHT OF HIM WORRYING BOUT GRIFFIN N GORDON UNTIL JORDAN JUMPS SKY HIGH AND DUNKS ON U..MO WILL BE PG FOR CLIPS AS HE WAS FOR THE CAVS WHEN LEBRON WAS THERE AND THEY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF CONNECTING. MO WAS ONE OF THE TOP 10 GUARDS THEN MAYBE 5…AFTER LEBRON LEFT IT DISCOURAGED HIM CAUSE HE KNEW THE OTHER PLAYERS DIDN’T HAVE IT IN THEM TO WIN WITHOUT LEBRON..YOU TALKIN BOUT MO DOESN’T PLAY TEAM BALL, WHAT TEAM DOES HE HAVE..HIS SO CALLED LOST 26 STRAIGHT DURING HIS INJURY AND DIDN’T END THAT STREAK UNTIL HE CAME BACK…IF THAT DOESN’T DISCOURAGE U AND TAKE THE CONFIDNECE AWAY U ONCE HAD IN YOUR TEAM…PLAYIN FOR THE CLIPS WILL BE THE NEXT TIME HE PASSES FOR 10AST..IF HE THOUGHT THROWIN LEBRON AN ALLEY WAS EASY, WAIT TIL HE PLAYS WITH BLAKE AND JORDAN. CAUSE NOW HE AS TWO PLAYERS INSTEAD OF ONE WHO HE COULD FEED THE BALL OF A LOB, AND GORDON BACKIN HIM UP INSTEAD OF GIBSON, OR PARKER..GOOD MOVE FOR MO’S CAREER. HIS CONFIDENCE WILL BACK UP AND THEN GET BACK TO ME WHEN U WITNESS THAT.. I WATCH BASKETBALL EVRY CHANCE I GET, I EVEN REPLAY GAMES FROM 3WEEKS AGO JUST WATCH EVERY LITTLE DETAIL JUST TO HELP WITH MY COACHING SKILL AND PLAYER DEVELOPMENT SKILLS…BARON DID A GREAT JOB FOR THE CLIPS AS FAR AS GETTIN THEM HIGHLIGHTS BUT LETS BE FOR REAL, HOW FAR U THINK HE’S GOING TO GET THEM..TRADING FOR MO BRINGS IN EXPERIENCED YOUNG BLOOD WHO COULD BE WITH GRIFFIN FOR THE NEXT 5YRS..BARON MIGHT HABE 2YRS LEFT CAUSE HE’S NOT THE SAME BARON WE ONCE KNEW

  98. Black Mamba says:

    it ‘s a very very bad decision…NBA lyf of griffin is a long journey, so you guys should wait what on another opurtunities, don’t use BARRON DAVIS for your own good…GRIFFIN need davis to develop his talent, because, Only davis knows how griffin moves in the hard court…Also MO compare to BARRON DAVIS, it’s a big difference huh’ MO WILL is only a player, he can’t do wat BARRON can do to make his team a better TEAM…PLZ…PLZ…Think Twice before you guys drop BARRON DAVIS, he is Veteran in hard court and A experieced Man than anybody…

    • Allstar says:

      THAT COMMENT IS SO INTRUE..GRIFFIN DOESN’T NEED BARON…ALL GRIFFIN NEEDS IS THE BALL IN HIS HANDS..PEOPLE SAID THAT BOUT AMARE. WITHOUT STEVE NASH SETTIN HIM UP HE WON’T BE THE SAME..SOME PLAYERS ARE JUST GREAT AND JUST NEED THE BALL…ANY AVERAGE PG COULD THROW BLAKE A ALLEY ALL GAME. ITS NOT HARD TO DO WHEN U GOT A PLAYER THAT CATCHES EVERYTHING AND JUMPS HIGHER THAN EVERYBODY..MO SHOWED THAT ALL THEM YEARS HE CONNECTED WITH LEBRON. SO IF COULD READ LEBRON AND PASS HIM THE BALL THROW HIM ALLEYS I’M SURE HE COULD DO THE SAME FOR THE CLIPPERS…THIS WILL BRING MO’S CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAM BACK..HE WAS DISCOURAGED AFTER LEBRON LEFT CAUSE HE KNEW THE OTHER PLAYERS DIDN’T HAVE IT IN THEM TO WIN WITHJOUT LEBRON.THEN HE SAT THERE THROUGH I JURY AND WATHCED THEM LOSE 26 STRAIGHT…I WOULDN’T HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN MY TEAM EITHER.. GOOD TRADE FOR CLIPS FUTURE AND CAVS GOT A PLAYER COULD HELP DEVELOP PLAYERS LIKE HICKSON AND SESSIONS..BARON ON HIS WAY OUT. HE’S AT THE POINT WHERE HE NEEDS TO JOIN A POWER HOUSE TEAM LIKE MAVS,LAKERS,SPURS..SOMEWHERE HE DOESN’T HAVE TO DO MUCH AND COULD POSS WIN A RING

  99. dirkfan41 says:

    i hope this doesnt go through… baron can get griffin the ball well, and we see it working and with mo williams in the lineup, he’ll score, not pass, thats his game, to score. and eric gordon is a good scorer in his own right so i really dont see this as a good thing for the clippers, two backcourt scorers, no playmakers.

  100. Ace says:

    Works out great for the Clippers. Mo is more of a scoring PG BUT, he CAN pass the ball. He’ll get better with a new offense, a young team, IN LA, and has no choice. Plus, he’ll only be a threat as a scoring PG along-side Gordan and both can run the offense. AND…u don’t have to be a great passer to throw it up to Griffin…dude can catch anything..smh. Bad move for the Cavs.

  101. MonK3y says:

    I’d hate to see B.D leave the Clippers, L.A is his home, he’s been playing better lately, he can set up the Rim Ripper better than anybody and on top of that, there already are Randy Foye and Eric Gordon at the 2 spot in Los Angeles…plus several guards in Cleveland.

    This doesn’t make any sense basketball wise, it’s all about moving expiring contracts. Makes no team better.

  102. trey james says:

    perfect trade, baron can slack off in the land of players that overachieve by underachieving, and mo williams can go bak to playing second fiddle to a player younger and better than he(lebron james-blake griffin). maybe baron even shows us a few glimpses of what he used to b like when he was an all-star. who on the cavaliers does he have to worry about stealing his spotlight. byron scott and himself. good trade, make it happen, and for the record to everybody out there, in the NBA the coach has nothing to do with trades unless they double as the GM like mike dunleavy did before resigning

  103. LB6 says:

    Yeah get on the nerves of Griffin by taking away the one who is setting him up on David. Go to the Lakers Blake. Clippers organization is dropping the ball once again. Get out and go to the real LA Team.

  104. no trade says:

    bad move for clip! mo couldn’t work out with lebron, i wonder if it will work with griff?

  105. RE_ALITY says:

    OOooppsss,

    ANY DEAL FOR CAVS WONT REPLACE LEBRON

    DAVIS IS A CONTRACT PLAYER, HE ONLY SHINES JUST AROUND NEGOTIATION OF RENEWING CONTRACT, THEN HE BECOMES INVISIBLE ON AND OFF BETWEEN BASKETBALL COURT AND HOLLYWOOD.

    CAV’S DONT DO IT, HE IS NOT WORTH IT……….

    LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ASK YOURSELF WHY CLIPPERS WANT TO SWAP DAVIS WITH MO WILLIAMS????

  106. leohimself says:

    What is wrong with you guys? Mo Williams sucks, he’s no point guard, he doesn’t like to pass the ball, he’s more like a scorer which they don’t need because he’s not better than Davis. He’s going to ruin Clippers’ future. Why would they trade Baron Davis who has great court vision, is way better than Mo Williams and plays well togheter with Blake? What has Mo done? Nothing. When the Cavs needed him in the Playoffs he shot 20% from the field. He should’ve been James’ side kick but he failed miserably. This season with no James, he should’ve averaged 30ppg but instead he’s going with 13. Are you kiddn me? Nice job Clippers. I hope Blake asks to be traded.

    • Srt-4 says:

      Good post….How do you fail at being a sidekick? You gotta suck pretty bad to do that. Mo sucked before he came to Cleveland and will suck now that he’s on the Clips. As much as I hate to admit it, because I don’t really like Drama Queen James, he did make Mo look a lot better than he really is and the proof is Mo’s play this year…He’s middle of the pack in PG’s at best and even aging Davis is a better player than Mo will ever be…Bad move Clips but they always come through with those year after year…

  107. lakers 3p says:

    THIS TRADE WILL NOT WORK
    KEEP BARON DAVIS plssssss
    davis+gordon will be fine
    gordon+williams????lol if it happens
    ball will rotate at two guys
    leave the scoring to blake
    and davis is a good point guard to assist blake
    next year will be clippers year ,.,i promise
    with starter
    kaman
    griffin
    gordon
    davis
    +this summer they must find a SF
    tyshuan prince -ron atrtest-trevor ariza ,.,.make a trade to get 1 of this guys
    and clippers will be elite team in the west

  108. DMasterJ413 says:

    Umm…I hope that the clips would be getting some sort of picks from the Cavs out of this or else this trade is DUMB! Baron Davis is wayyyy better than Mo Williams and already has something going well with the Clips new marquee playing being “The Incredible” Blake Griffin. What could Mo Williams possibly bring to the Clips that they do not already have?? And no one knows how Mo has been playing of late since he has sat out the last 13 or so games!!

    Point Being: BAD Trade! Don’t Do It Clips!!

  109. lee says:

    Wow its only a good trade if the clips send kaman and barron to cavs for mo and there 1st round pick
    then they can put mo in a dael in the off season and get a young building block next to blake in the draft like the thunder did with durant

  110. Chris Dwyane James says:

    mo wouldn’t do anything in L.A.he’d better stay at cleveland because baron is a better guard than mo williams is.mo williams is more of the scorer type,baron is the guy who gives dishes to blake griffin.davis should stay in L.A. or he should find a better team other than the cavs

    • DJ says:

      Mo is just as good of passer as davis, The main difference is that mo is younger, he will work well with the talented blake griffin

  111. olive blacok says:

    Bad move for the Clippers, but a huge deal for the Cavs if they acquire Davis. As a fan of the game, I cant see this improving the Los Angeles Clippers at all. Just when you think the Clippers organization are starting to get it right, they always seem to down grade, or in other words, drop the ball, once again….

    • Allstar says:

      THEY DIDN’T DOWN GRADE..A FEW YEARS AGO WITH LEBRON MO WAS A GOOD GUARD, ONE OF THE TOP 10..LEBRON LEAVIN BROKE HIS AND HIS TEAMS SPIRIT..LIKE WHEN JORDAN LEFT SCOTTIE PIPPEN..AFTER THAT SCOTTIE COULDN’T GET IT RIGHT AND ENDED UP BEING TRADED TO A FEW TEAMS…THIS TRADE WAS ABOUT THE CLIPS GETTIN YOUNGER AND BUILDING TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT 5YRS..BARON IS ON HIS WAY OUT AND HE IS NOT THE SAME BARON HE USE TO BE…ANY GOOD POINT GUARD COULD THROW BLAKE AN ALLEY, IT DOESN’T SEEM THAT HARD SINCE HE CATCHES EVERYTHING..MO IS A GREAT PASSER AS WELL, AND WE SEEN THAT WITH HIM AND LEBRON…GOOD TRADE FOR CLIPS,CABS WILL BE SEARCHIN FOR A PG IN 2YRS

      • Mo says:

        well said. the reason why theis is a good trade for the clips is that they get draft picks plus a young team. they can use young players for future trades.
        2012-the time of howard

  112. RyX14 says:

    Most of the comments hated the trade. But that’s NBA, you wouldn’t know what will happen. Everything happens for a reason

  113. RONDO4MVP says:

    bad trade just a bad trade the cavs just totally got ripped off

    • Allstar says:

      WITH MO’S EMOTIONS BOUT LEBRON LEAVIN AND MO FEELIN NO CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAM AFTER WATCHIN THEM LOSE 27 STRAIGHT GAMES I THINK THE CAVS WERE SMART..THEY REALIZED HE WASN’T GONNA BE AS PRODUCTIVE AS HE USE TO BE BECAUSE OF THAT.SO Y KEEP AN UNHAPPY PLAYER WHO MIGHT NOT PLAY TO HIS FULL POTENTIAL BECAUSE HE FEEL SOME TYPE OF WAY..ITS A BAD SEED TO HAVE IN THE LOCKER ROOM..AND WITH HIM BEING THERE GO TO GUY IT WOULD SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE TEAM…SO TRADIN FOR BARON DAVIS WASN’T TOO BAD BASED ON PERFORMANCE WISE AS OF RIGHT NOW…BARON GONNA MAKE HICKSON A BETTER PLAYER AND MO JUST REVIVED HIS CAREER PLAYIN WITH THE CLIPS

      • Firstlady says:

        @Allstar I agree with you ,I think it was a good trade BD. I think is going to be the to mold the younger cats in the game like a Jamison if you will….I thin its a great decision. its it going to when a championship in a couple years?..No but it definitely on the right path.

  114. JESUS CHRIST says:

    THE CAVS ARE ALSO GOING TO TRY AND GET GERALD WALLACE, THEY ARE BUILDING DYNASTIES IN CLEVELAND. FIRST BARON THEN WALLACE, AND LASTLY YAO MING. IT IS GOING TO GO DOWN, YOU WILL ALL BE IN FEAR OF THE CAVS.

  115. Andrew says:

    Wow. The Clips GM got replaced by a monkey in a big vat of toy balls which have team and player names on them and whichever ball he throws against the north wall is a trade deadline move? Interesting choice but ultimately self-defeating.

    In all seriously, how does any GM with half a BBall IQ trade Baron Davis for that guy?

  116. far-far-away-fan says:

    starting of the season, BD struggled alittle but look at him now. supporting the youngsters like griffin and gordon. Pls dont trade BD away.. there are 2 forces within LAC which are eric gordon and the team work of BD and griffin. getting mo might not be a bad choice but what happen if mo gets himself injuried again?

  117. LeBron says:

    Andrew you have some serious problems. You probably spend over half an hour on that paragraph. I hope you stop wasting your life on this trade.

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  119. Jette says:

    THAT’S A BAD MOVE FOR D CLIPS!!!

  120. michael says:

    Good deal for Cleveland , but not for the Clippers. Davis and Griffin are great and they dont need to change anything.

  121. kenny says:

    for the first time i object to a trade. is this! they shouldnt trade for mo williams, baron and griffin works well together. i can’t even picture mo working out with the clippers(grffin,gordan). DO NOT MAKE THIS TRADE!

    • Allstar says:

      if Mo could work with Lebron James, and shaq, y couldn’t he work with gordon and Griffin…Mo is a good passer also, and he could handle the rock just like Baron…This trade was about the Clips stayin young and growing together and along the way pick up a great veteran player when opportunity presents itself…Dwight will be on the market soon

  122. MLowe says:

    Cleveland, LAC do it what do you have to lose? this isn’t a major shakeup with what 27-26 games left so give the pg’s a new start and see how it works!

  123. Sevenheaven says:

    What’s going on… Mr Big Shot no more in Denver, Vinsanity no more in Orlando… no respect for the old guys… I hope the Baron stays in LA where he belongs

  124. newmike says:

    I’m a cavalier fan before, but since LeBron left the cavs I have no interest in cavaliers now. All I can say is Good Luck to cavs and Clips.

  125. Jack says:

    I think this is good for Cleveland for the pick…….we now have potentially two lottery picks this year. Hopefully drafting Kyrie Irving and one of the two Lithuanian big men that are entering the draft

  126. Thomas says:

    allaround baller just got straight up OWNED by Andrew….LOL

  127. Baron Davis says:

    People of Cleveland,
    I am honored to be a part of your post-lebron team. I want you to expect me to be 300pounds by the time i set my feet on your city. I will try to break the record of shooting 3 pointers by bricking 15 of them everygame. Don’t worry as i will be very motivated on the 82 games i’ll play in about 2-3 years. I am very focused and will make the team better by giving them autographed posters of Kate Hudson.

    Sincerely,
    B.D.

    PS. I can probably turn my beard into Vareja’s hair so i can assure you i am right for this team. It is meant to be and i would like you to know that had this coming. I did play my best basketball in the last two years.

  128. Diego says:

    the clippers should also get cleveland’s 2011 first round pick.

  129. Diego says:

    damn, the clippers should really do this. Baron is only getting older. yes, hes playing like a all star as of late but mo williams is younger plays just as well if not better, and he can only get better, him and blake would make a very good team along with gordon and the rest of the young and talented clipper squad.

  130. ariel_1 says:

    Its official.The deal is done. Mo Williams was traded to the Clippers for Baron Davis and first round draft pick.

    • todd says:

      they gave up a first round pick, which i usually a lottery pick, for MO WILLIAMS? he’s more of a scoring PG, why would you want that playing with proven scorers like eric gordon and blake? doesn’t make any sense to me.

      • Allstar says:

        Mo isn’t just a scorer…It just look like he was because after Lebron he was the only player who could really create something for himself…I think Mo going to the Clips is a good look for him..It would bring his confidence back up playin with a few other good/great players…plus he’s a young guard as oppose to Baron Davis. Baron did a good job of distributing the ball, but Mo could do the same. We all seen him and Lebron connect plenty of times..Having Blake Griffin would be great for him, and Gordon on his side…Since Mo could score it kind of makes it a triple threat and spreads the floor for the clips…with Gordons,Mo, and Blakes age, this could be a good big 3 for years to come..Baron Davis could go at any moment…He’s no Chauncey Billups

      • todd says:

        i just don’t think mo was worth a lottery pick by any means. he’s an improvement over baron as an overall player but the best thing about baron was that his huge contract was coming off the books at the right time in 2012, the summer of dwight, CP3 and D-WILL. now they go into that summer with mo’s 8 million on the books. this is just speculation, but what if that lottery pick ends up being kyrie irving?

  131. @Flickor says:

    I wonder if Cleveland would be interested in Greg Oden. I think the right price for both sides would be Greg Oden and Portlands 2011 1st rounder for Clevelands 1st rounder.

  132. Andrew says:

    1. 10 wins and 47 losses, Mo sure does get it done for the Cavs.
    2. Did I say anything about straight up? I think I said something about getting a center or Rasual Butler.
    3. The Cavs don’t have a 1st round pick from Minnesota, what do you know?
    4. Mo Williams sure has been the same Mo Williams this season.
    5. In his prime, what odds do you give Mo Williams of resigning in Cleveland in 2 years?
    6. You’re right, I don’t know anything about basketball, I put posts in forums late at night, just like you, because I’m in no way connected to the NBA, and never will be.
    7. I am excited to see the development of the young guys on the Cavs, Eyenga is coming along nicely and Harris played awesome tonight. I think Davis did a wonderful job facilitating the development of younger players when he was on Golden State, AllAround Baller seems to think he’s been doing well for the Clippers, perhaps the Cavs need to try an outspoken leader with a bit of attitude, who knows it’s worth a shot at 10 and 47 and counting.
    8. Thanks for schooling me on how the TPE and salary cap work, as a Cavs fan I haven’t seen A BILLION TRADES posted on the Cavaliers website since Lebron shipped off for South Beach.
    9. I think it’s worth a risk as long as you don’t give up first round picks in the process on our end, but due to your strong feelings about Davis not being worth it, it shouldn’t be a problem.
    10. I’m sold on Sessions, do keep him around, so if you want to talk youth and salary and skill based on those parameters(one of 2 or 3 Cavs players that actually drives to the hoop), then you see why I have no problem letting Mo go.
    11. I loved it when Mo Williams came to Cleveland, but for some reason, I feel since the departure of James he’s been somewhat psyched out. He needs a guy he can play off of, and we don’t have that. He’s better suited on the Clips in that regard. I hope the Clippers recognize that and tomorrow’s press conference isn’t the same speech we got after Lebron left.

    • Champkobe says:

      Completely agree with you on #10, but im not sold that williams will be a good fit in ClipperNation. Davis has developed into more of a passing pg than a scoring pg, while williams continues to shoot. But sessions has been averaging extremely good stats whenever he starts the game, so i dont understand why the cavs would even want davis back. I think it makes more sense for the clippers if they traded williams for butler and kaman for williams, but that wouldnt work with the clippers.

    • tone says:

      look andrew. i am a cavs fan and u said some stuff that just dont sit right with me
      1. mo been hurt all season and before andy got hurt mo was getting about 15 and 7 a game thats a point guard.
      4. mo has not been the same. they told mo to move the ball around thats why he didnt see a lot of 20 point games. plus he was making andy look good just like lebron was. trust me i watch every game and he was on my fantasy team so i looked at the numbers everyday.
      10. are u really sold on dude. trust me he will always be a back up point guard. yes he gets to the basket but that does not mean he can play the pg the right way. why u think was the 3rd pg on minn. think about it.
      the trade helped out both teams. but the cavs will trade baron away but those draft picks is what they want

  133. nikwakin says:

    Baron’s still good for the Clippers. He and Blake are good one-two duo in many plays. I wish they would not trade him.

  134. China says:

    Bad trade for Cavs, as much as I dont wanna admit it, Baron Davis is near the end of his career. Ive always liked his swagger dating back to Golden State. And I dont think players with his type of reputation/personality will be motivated to play in the current situation of the Cavs. For Mo Williams it’ll be fun alley oooping for Griffin, but hey, dont all PGs like doing that? lol

  135. SoulHonky says:

    This deal would be HUGE for the Clippers. Getting Baron off of their 2012 ledger means they’ll likely have enough cap space for two max players. And with their own lotto pick this year and the Timberwolves’ unprotected pick in 2012, they could have two more youngsters alongside Blake and Gordon to woo the likes of Deron Williams or CP3 and Dwight Howard.

    Baron is helping the Clippers win and I do think that he’s better than Mo Williams (who I’ve never been a big believer in) but to clear that cap space in the future is too good to pass up.

    Then again, I have no idea why the Cavs do this. I can’t imagine Baron would be happy and he’d likely go back to slacking off.

    • todd says:

      i don’t get it, mo williams makes 8.5 million a year through 2013. sure, baron davis makes about 6 million more a year, but his contract comes off the books in 2012, the summer of dwight howard and chris paul. with chris kaman’s big contract coming off the same summer why wouldn’t they want all the money cleared that they could? could you imagine them signing chris paul and dwight howard to play along with blake griffin, eric gordon and aminu with bledsoe, deandre jordan and whatever two lottery picks they get from this year and next year coming off the bench? wishful thanking, but i’d clear up all the money i could to try to make it possible.

      • bill says:

        paul without question going to the idiot nicks

      • todd says:

        yea it’s looking that way with paul going to ny, but i’d love to see him with dwight howard or blake griffin. he turns average players like tyson chandler and david west into allstars, think about the success he could have with either one or both of those high flyers. and i know the clippers organization is just a turnoff to free agents, but a playmaker like paul should be salivating at the chance to play with blake. think of how much his offensive game will have improved by 2012 when paul is a free agent and he’s already a far better rebounder then amare. eric gordon’s game is improving all the time too, he’d be another perfect fit for chris paul. they’re so young too, CP3 could run that team for years to come. but like i said, wishful thinking is getting the best of me.

  136. jane says:

    I really hope the Clippers don’t trade Baron Davis away…not only was he Blake’s body guard, but he seemed genuinely happy to play for the first time in a looooong time…I think Blake’s gonna be mad if this happens

    • allaround baller says:

      right!

    • tdaw916 says:

      so true, only reason clips are slumping right now is due to injury (eric g.) Davis is workingin great with them and should continue.

    • Champkobe says:

      Agreed. I was expecting a deal involving Kaman or Butler. This came as a total surprise for me. I was hoping that with kaman and butler, the clippers would get an upgrade in their small forward position (personally, im looking at deng).

    • LakersWillWin says:

      Baron Davis is a good Veteran we needed for our young team. Not more young players.

  137. Too Crazy says:

    Andrew, you are crazy, or just don’t know ANYTHING about basketball!!! There is no way the Cavaliers snd Mo to the Clippers for BD straight-up…even if their salaries did match (which they don’t…about $5 million off). Mo is younger, cheaper, and is as good or better PG as BD, w/o the problems.

    If this deal gets done, it is because of the Minny 1st round pick and/or Kaman being added along with the TPE from the Cavs and other considerations.

    • ? says:

      This is another dumb a** trade by the clippers. Mo Williams is not better than Baron Davis, so why trade for him. This team plays good together, if it aint broke dont fix it. Donald Sterling really needs to go. He will be looking to trade Griffin for some sorry player next.

      • basketball says:

        ?
        The clippers are like in 13 place in the west obviously something was broken there so your phrase “if aint broke dont fix it” makes no sense

      • Matt says:

        haha yeh we needed to do something about it and why not try something new
        I ABSOLUTLY LOVE THIS TRADE

    • LakersWillWin says:

      Yeah we are missing out leading scorer Eric Gordon, that was the problem. If EG hadn’t gone out we could be doing better things. Baron is having a great season, or so I thought. Getting rid of him was a horrible trade. But hey what do I know I’m not a Gm for a National Basketball team. The Clippers owner needs to be fired, its like the never want to be good. I doubt BG is giong to remain a Clipper for his career if they keep making dumb moves like this.

  138. allaround baller says:

    bad decision for clips. baron feed griffin very well, besides he gave up his scoring thing couse gordon’s there. davis did the ball contribution for clips n lead these young gun. williams cant do it, he’s more scorer. williams and gordon, that 2 similar guard will never working. Its not an upgrade! vinny, pls wait till next season, find better SF

    • M.S.25 says:

      Yes i agree with “allaround baller”
      This is not a good move for the clips. The clippers have decent scorers including blake griffin,
      eric gordon, (now that hes back) & a small contribution from deandre Jordan from here & there. Mo is more of a scorer than a passer, & ithink a leader like Rondo would fit best for their team to set up eric gordon & blake griffin who are consistent scorers. Mo Williams would incease their offense, but i dont think the clips need it. BD is more of a passer now, & thats what they need. Clippers might just need another role player that plays the smaller foward position & an increased level of their defence, then they could possibily be the “underdogs” of this league.

      • bill says:

        you are both wrong it was an excellent trade for la they got a younger guy at pg at a needed small forward

      • jessy says:

        Thats not a good move, Davis has accepted his role as is a good compliment to Blake Griffin, Williams on the other hand is not that type of player. talking about a bad move before the deadline……WOW

      • CELTICS015 says:

        HES RIGHT MO WILLIAMS AINT A TRUE PG…HES MORE OF A 2GUARD…HE LOOKS FOR HIS SHOT B4 THE PASS…HE SHUD JUSS BACK UP BLEDSOE WHOS A PROMISING RASING PG

      • balls says:

        i think its kind a good for both team, in my opinion how player plays and player role can be change but AGE cant. my point is clippers are looking for PG that can go together with griff and other player as time goes by, or maybe a point guard that can hold responsibilities until their true point guard undergoing training, and as a package they got a SF which not a superstar but decent enough to fill what they need as of now, then as for cavs, of course they are trying to fix their team, what they did for me is a gamble, and yet this a decent gamble it terms of how many years jamison and davis left to play.

      • ClipperShawn says:

        you’re absolutly right. when was the last time Mo Williams fulfilled the role player? he’s clearly a ball hog. If only he was more like that one guy who made the Allstar game because of his extraordinary facilitation of LeBron (who is a superstar of a different model, but similar scope to Blake Griffin). It’s too bad I forget that guys name, but it’s not important because Mo Williams will never be that guy.

      • Bean says:

        This was a fiscally responsible trade for clips they got an even trade in this one and look more attractive in the future. they could of gone after a SF primarily like gillanari instead but BD’s contract was way to heavy. I can’t believe Ryan Gomes is still a starter that dude belongs in the D-league I would rather roll the dice on aminu. But maybe they’ll push this offseason for a pure jumpshooter at the SF pos. The cavs have a long road to recovery if there not careful they too could be on the move to ANAHEIM. Haha

    • Sean Moore says:

      I agree with you all the way and they maybe didnt even have to worrry about the SF position and instead could focus on the development of Aminu. I think the clippers needed a healthy Chris Kaman and Time and they would have been a playoff threat. Mo williams although underrated as a playmaker in my opinion has no business in LA especially when they have combo guards like Foye and Gordan already playing huge roles. I’m not totally doubting that Mo can get the job done but I know the Clippers aren’t in a situation where they can get the most out of Mo’s talents. I think he’ll average about 12 ppg and 8 apg similar numbers to what he put up in cleveland which isn’t Mo at his best. I’d rather see him play a Jason terry sixth man role with bledsoe starting and dishing to Blake but then Foyes role off the bench would diminish so it may work depending how they structure there playing style or it may completely disrupt the team chemistry. Hope for the better if ur a clippers fan.

    • mfdmmffd says:

      i agree the clips done mess up on this trade

    • Nicholas Nahai says:

      It is a good trade for the clippers for many reasons.
      - baron’s contract is HUGE, it saves them 11 mill
      -This will give bledsoe more time to play
      -Clips get a younger pg
      - clips record with baron is .310
      -Mo Williams is an all star, he had a bit of a slow start, but with the Cavs, what do you expect
      -Clips could use a SF

  139. Andrew says:

    Wow, I really, really, really hope that happens with some sort of center. Maybe they could package Rasual Butler in the deal, a former student of Scott’s system. I guess beggars can’t be choosers though