HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – Don’t do it Chicago.
Don’t let anyone talk you into moving the emotional backbone of your team.
Just Say No to trading Joakim Noah!
We can understand the Bulls’ dilemma. Word spreads that Carmelo Anthony wants out of Denver and his two target destinations are New York and Chicago, per my main man Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports.
So naturally, names start getting tossed around and scenarios are conjured up. But anyone from Chicago including Noah’s name in the mix is flat-out crazy.
Yeah, crazy!
And you can take all the fancy metrics that explain how you can survive without him and throw them into the lake. We don’t want to hear that noise around the hideout.
No one is here to dispute the fact that this team belongs to hometown fave and All-Star Derrick Rose. And it’s obvious the Bulls have an offensive catalyst in the paint to pair with him now in Carlos Boozer. But Noah is the feisty and vocal ringleader of this team, the raging heart and rugged soul of a group that cannot compete in the “championship” stratosphere Boozer spoke of earlier this summer without their fearless big man.
If the only way to get Anthony from Denver is to include Noah in a potential deal, then the Bulls need pass on this one and wait for another solid deal to come along. As much as we love what Anthony brings to the table and how formidable the Bulls could be with him in uniform, it’s simply not worth the expense of parting ways with one of the league’s best young centers.
Bulls executive vice president John Paxson did a fantastic job this summer retooling his team in the wake of losing out on the Summer of 2010 Big Three of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. They were methodical in their approach after that and came away with one of the best hauls of the summer.
They set themselves up to be a contenders for years to come, as Paxson told the Chicago Tribune’s Fred Mitchell recently:
“We’ve improved it for the long-term, as well as this upcoming season,” said Paxson. “We’re still very young and we’ve got some outstanding players. We’ve got two All-Stars now in Derrick (Rose) and Carlos. And we think Joakim (Noah) is going to have the potential to be an All-Star. And we still have Luol Deng, who everybody isn’t kind of talking about … still averaged 18 (points) a game for us last year. So we feel really, really good.”
Now comes the hard part for the Bulls. They have to fight the temptation to continue tinkering with a team that should be good to go this season.
They have to resist the urge to gamble on Anthony, Rose and Boozer being the Windy City version of Miami’s Big 3. (Boozer knows better than anyone that he needs a strong, defensive-minded center watching his back, otherwise — as one of my Chicago partners emailed this morning, “we’ll be the Chicago Jazz all over again.”)
If there is a championship puzzle in place in Chicago now or in the near future, Noah has to be a major piece.
There’s no other way around that fact.
Could not agree with you more, Melo would be a great pick up, but at the cost of losing a great young center, heck no! Especially since he might sign with them next year anyway. Heck wait a year.
No cap space, my friend.
But next year might be easier to talk Denver into a sign and trade without including Noah
MIAMI will still drop some DO-DO on their heads, with Melo and Noah.
LMAO.
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On a serious note, I think I would take Melo over a Noah.
All these big man now in days are all fragile. Knee’s blow off in two seasons now.
Ohh the miami bchz in Heat. Havent played a game off paper yet. So, funny. You will be lucky to win 60.
“All these big man now in days are all fragile. Knee’s blow off in two seasons now.”
dude..that’s why they need Noah(duh)..He ain’t as fragile as the centers nowadays.In fact, he’s a rugged player..
Trade Luol Deng, Taj Gibson, n James Johnson, for Carmelo, or Taj, Deng n some draft picks, but u cant get rid of Joakim, u need a 2 big guys to beat da lakers not one, n dere aint many 7 foot Centers in da NBA so he has to stay
r u kidding me? don’t trade luol deng, put in joakim noah instead of luol deng. carmelo will help chicago to be a championship contender in every way!!!!!!!!! please chicago do it!!!!!!!!!
agree 100% with this idea
nah we cant get rid of noah, carmelo would take dengs startign job anyway so trading deng would be better, plus trading deng gives us some cap space
noah just stands out of the roster bcoz of the bulls thin front court..u cant pass up a player in melo’s caliber just by giving up noah, i think he just plays a lot like cavs anderson varejao, luis scola is certainly better..it just so happen that he was given a nice break bcoz of the line up they have the last few years..i doubt if he can give the same numbers now that they have boozer in the mix.. celts perkins is a better defensive player than him..i think a lot of nba bigs can be as good as noah if they can play noah’s minutes…so ill definitely trade noah along with deng to denver for a game changer such as melo…noah just overrated..lopez brothers and k.love are better just in my opinion..
NOOOOOOOOOOO dont trade Joakim Noah For Carmelo Anthony. Joakim Noah is the heart and soul of the team. If Joakim Noah leaves 1000′s and 1000′s of Bulls Fans will be Dissapointed and very Sad
Yea they will also be sad bcoz of the sad front line they will have. What chicago fan does not want Carmelo Anthony in their team.
It is true that melo is much better player than joakim noah.
so i think it will be better to get melo and giving away noah.
chicago already has great pf/c position guy which is boozer, and with rose, and new melo coming in, that will make a new big 3 for chicago bulls i think.
Chicago is on the verge of becoming an elite team, one or two more pieces and they are there. Is Carmelo Anthony a better player than Noah? Yes most definitely. Is it worth losing Noah from Chicago, no, I don’t think so, here’s why:
Just as much as Rose, Noah has become the face of the Chicago team. He is an integral part of the team they have now and it would be hard to replace the hard work and effort he puts out. Plus they have finally learned to play their brand of basketball together. Adding another player in place of Noah (even one as gifted as Carmelo) would be a set back, not to mention that Noah would not be the only player wanted by Denver for Melo.
This idea of ‘instant’ team by acquisition is seductive but it rarely pans out in the end (just ask the Lakers when they added ‘superstars’ only to fall to Detroit).
Couldn’t agree with you anymore zzanzabar! From now till as long as they can Rose and Noah need to be to the bulls like Kobe is to the Lakers, a non trading option. There just is no bulls without the fire/effort of noah and the skill/drive of Rose plain and simple.
Mr. ZZ once again I share what you think, Noah is the heart of the bulls and Rose is the most talented player on the team. As Sekou mentions, Boozer is good, but until he learns how to defend or Taj Gibson develops into a defensive dog that can move Carlos out of the way, they need Noah more than they need Melo. Most of the bulls are young and as you say, just by adding a solid backup for Rose and deciding whether they keep Deng or including him in a near future ftrade or another talented SF they will become one of the best 4 teams in the league. Now they are probably top 10, but keeping the Rose – Noah duo will pay pronto!
I think Melo and Nene for Noah and Deng would improve Chicago
Bro that’s not happening. It’s impossible money-wise. It would have to be like a Noah,Deng for just Melo kinda deal.
Really i thought dang made alot of money and Mello is on last year of deal should not be to crazy of an amount?
Not a bad proposition. I still question Anthony’s head though. He never seems to maximize on his boundless ability. His defense is suspect, so I don’t know how that would fit. He is, however, the easiest SCORER in the league, and my second favorite player behind Rose.
i agree it wouldnt be a bad trade but @ the moment the league is controlled by centres, any team wiv a good centre a decent bench and 1 or 2 legit stars they can go far. plus why give up a heart of a team for sum1 that dosent know if he’s a role player or a star. if he’s a role player he should shut up an take jumpers or if his a star use his head and domminate games.
I agree with you all but for different reasons. There is no gurantee that all these new pieces (Boozer, Brewer, etc) will work out. The Bulls are a great mix of young and experienced. With no pressure to win it all in 2011; give this group a chance to gell and play together.
Evaluate and make changes next summer. This team is going to be good for several years. Hopefully, team management dont get buy happy or see sticker shock.
This version of the Bulls is good enough for a top 4 finish in the East. There will be some explosive playoff matchups for sure.
chicago needs a center and Noah is the best they have, so it will be a terrible mistake if they trade him for Carmelo
they need to throw in nene into this deal for chicago 2 pull the trigger
Denver:Luol Deng ,Joakim Noah
Chicago: Nene,Melo
dependz on nenes contract and if they want a injury prone centre
new york or new orleans should get involved on a 3 or 4 way deal chris paul is definitely not satisfied with whats goin on in da nola trevor ariza marco bellini wow,but there are not a championship contender with the power shift of nba to the east
surely the power shift to the east leaves NO, a WEST conf team, in a better position..?
I say trade Noah.. He’s good but he still can’t contend with the elite centers in the league and at least getting Carmelo will give them a chance
Well, I do think that Noah still does not reach the potential of an elite center… but right now there are not many Elite Centers in the league man, not as many as they were 8 to 10 years ago and not nearly 15 years ago, but Noah is definetely on top 10 of centers.
Help me out here and mention if I am mistaken here.
Elite potential
- Al Jefferson
- Andrew Bynum (if for once healthy)
- Greg Oden (If for once healthy)
- Tyson Chandler (If for once healthy)
- Bogut (definetely the best one in my opinion and truly elite)
- Noah
- Chris Kaman (to me, also elite even if he plays for the clips ,though he might be having lesser numbers now with Griffin healthy and Gordon rising up)
- A- Stat (if he plays Center spot)
- Yao (if healthy)
- Dwight Howard of course totally elite
- Shaq (he still is one of the elite and strongest and most respected although he does not put up old numbers)
As you can see…. there are a lot “if healthy” in the list, I might have missed someone but still, there are not a lot better than Noah.
Melo is awesome and he is God given skilled, but he would not be Chicago leader, that spot is already taken by Rose, and Melo would be the same as he is right now in Denver, the face of the franchise but the second behind Billups.
Melo will NEVER be second to Billups in Denver. You must have forgot that Carmelo Anthony took Denver from a cellar team to annual playoff apperances as soon as he entered the league. Carmelo Anthony IS the Denver Nuggets, Chauncy is just AI’s replacement
I have to interject something here: I believe there is a difference between being the lead player on a team and being the player LEADER on a team. Melo was always the lead player on the Nuggets from the moment he arrived, but it took a player leader like Chauncey Billups to arrive to push the Nuggets to the next level. Nor is NOT being a player leader a matter of ‘heart’, commitment or anything else but requires a player to grow into that role. Kobe Bryant is a prime example of this maturation.
Noah is a throwback to the centers of the Moses Malone era: not overly big, nor a crack shot, but don’t let him get anywhere near the ball or the basket because he could almost ‘will’ something good to happen for your team. No team should ever lose that type of player or willingly trade him away. That attitude is not something that is taught but matures as the player does.
Now if (this is a BIG ‘if’) Denver is willing to take Deng plus others for Carmelo then, sure you make the deal, but Rose and Noah should be as untouchable as Kobe and Gasol.
Your right, Melo is awesome and he has God given skills but the thing is Noah has this intangibles in his game. He may not have the skill sets that Melo have but Noah is so good on what he does. I still remember the plays that Noah did in 2009 playoffs against the Celtics. Man… You just can’t trade that away… Better yet, Bulls can trade Boozer instead…
. peace.
I believe you have forgotten an elite center off you list… Perkins! one of the best defensive centers in the league, and one of the few players in the league who can guard Dwight Howard. He’s better than players like; Noah, Chandler, Bynum, Oden, Shaq. To name a few.
I think in terms of potential elite centres, Brook Lopez is up there. That kid will be going some great things for the nets. But yeah, good list. Nenad Krstic could be up there too.
In regards to this Melo/Noah trade, hell no. bad idea.
yea you missed perkins. That guy is a better defensive than bynum anyday.
Nenad? are you serious? i mean the Thunder are my fav team alont with the Magic but if Nenad had elite potential haha thunder woulda taken lakers to a game seven and celtics woulda got their 18th
@ju ju. You are mistaken my friend. Before Billups came in to the picture, with the exeption of this past play-offs. The results were the same, the Nuggets were getting booted out 1st round without so much as winning a game. That wasn’t A.I’s fault…it was Anthony’s. I’m not sayin to put ALL the blame on him, but Billups is WAY more than Iverson’s replacement. When he came in his FIRST year and took over the lead from anthony, the team not only got out the 1st round, but made it to the conference finals and took L.A to game seven. When Anthony was leading the team, he never could get out the first round, let alone the conference finals. Correct me if I’m wrong ofcorse, but in my opinion, Billups is the lead player, not the BEST player, but the lead player because he steered them in the direction to actually compete. Anthony doesn’t have that type of leadership ability yet, so that’s why in only two years Billups has had more play-off success with them than Anthony has in 7 or 8.
Bynum is still the better center out of all of those listed (including Noah). When Bynum isn’t injured he is unstoppable. And some people are seriously underestimating his deffense, he may not be as good of a post defender as Perkins, but his shot blocking and ability to alter a shot and force a miss makes him the 2nd or 3rd best defender on that list. But anyways, Yea they should keep Noah. Melo can score, but too many scorers on a team is a big problem. They already have a lead scorer (Rose), and Anthony will just get in the way because I really can’t see either of those guys taking a back seat to each other. Plus Noah really is the heart of that team, and that’s something Anthony can not replace. Plus he has next to zero true leadership ability (much like LeBron). He just wouldn’t fit on that roster. Sorry. You can replace Noah with Anthony player wise, but then the Bulls wouldn’t have a true leader
@Zzanzabar
couldnt of said it better myself. You were right on the money with that statement.
@Bob
You are right about Perkins being good defensively and being one of the best centers. But you lost me when you said he was better than Noah or anyone else you named. How many double doubles does he even have in his career. Noah avereged a double double last year and he hasnt even peaked yet. Perkins has peaked and is a one dimensional player. Noah brings so much more to the table. Perkins never was even considered to be an allstar and Noah almost made it last year. Perkins is good but you cant compare him to the top centers in the league. Noah has more he could say and he aint even their yet. But he damn sure has the potential.
new york or new orleans should get involved on a 3 or 4 way deal chris paul is definitely not satisfied with whats goin on in da nola trevor ariza marco bellini wow,but they are not a championship contenders with the power shift of nba to the east and if they do well dis season with all the hungry teams in da west and how much games u gotta win in da west now a days i honestly see them battling for 8th seed in west unless chris paul has wilt chamberlain numbers which is not likelty
Seriously? Since when did it become about keeping all these players happy? They are receiving millions of dollars every year. And we bend over backwards to please them? They get paid that much to do their job. Their job? To please the fans. They are paid MILLIONS for a reason. To come to a city of MILLIONS, whether their team is a contender or not, and do their best to change the world’s opinion of them. CP3, though not as much of a game-changer as D-Will in my opinion, is an awesomely dynamic player and should be excited to have a challenge like this laid out on the table. Not only do you get to do the thing you love and hopefully make a little history along the way, you get 8 figures a year to do it!
Take a look at Durant. The biggest satisfaction this guy gets is just to see a kid walking down the streets of L.A. wearing a jersey representing a city that under other circumstances, nobody would care about. KD starts from nothing and builds it into an empire, all along the way signing a huge extension, working with summer league rookies daily, and basically begging LeBron to take the spotlight of the scoring title off him.
Trades will always happen and should ideally always be a good thing, but should primarily be to benefit the franchise and the fans. It goes back to the ~D~E~C~I~S~I~O~N~. Getting paid $126,000,000 just isn’t good enough. You want the money, but you want to get paid to play easy, beat the Timberwolves, Pacers, and Raptors to a pulp, school yard bully basketball? The majority of NBA Owners’ cash is being spent on bringing good players together so that everyone’s happy. Everyone, of course, meaning the 4 players and the owner that get to be near each other and bask in each other’s talent, money, and overall glory. Wouldn’t the league and the world be a better place if you had 20 of the 30 NBA teams actually had a near equal presence? If every night you didn’t KNOW you were going to win? If getting 50 wins a season actually meant something Big? If Top Tier players saw that the Clippers had enough money to give them a full contract, and they knew they had the talent and the drive to do something that’s never been done before, they embraced that chance?
But alas, “what if’s” get us nowhere. Shaqs will always leave their Magic. Garnetts will always leave their Wolves. Kings of Akron will always leave their throne behind (without an ounce of respect haha), and the money will never be enough compensation for just “how much talent they have”.
No longer do the athletes work to prove to the owner’s that they deserve their salary. The owners work to prove to the players that the franchise deserves their loyalty.
Respect to Joakim for being a player and a personality that has proven he deserves a spot on that great franchise.
Yea shaq dumped the magic. won 3 titles KG dumped the wolves won a title right away LeBron dumped the cavs….. guess whats gonna happen.
Dude, no one is ever going to listen to what you have to say if you don’t learn some grammar.
At the end of the day, it’s about being the best. You can’t expect human beings to disregard their insticts to win just because they are getting paid. Garnett literally gave his best years to the T-Wolves and they were never able to get him a ring, he spent neary his entire career there. Shaq left the Magic to win a championship ring. Same as LeBron. What kind of franchise bashes and disrespects a player that they once claimed to love and support just because he left them? F.Y.I, LeBron was never a hometown hero. He is from Arkon. Not Cleveland. Yea they both in Ohio, but it’s not like he was Dereck Rose, who is from CHICAGO, and left Chicago. LeBron left because for 7 years they couldn’t help him win, and he didn’t want to spend 10+ years in a city like Garnett did just to never win. I don’t think he should’ve ran to Wade and Bosh, but the name of the game is winning. To be the best. That’s what makes the fans, the players, and the owners happy. Winning. That’s why the franchises try so hard to keep their best players happy. Because they want to win. If every team were on an equal basis, then no team would have and edge. People want to win. Period
Carmelo Anthony is a better player than Joakim Noah but the hustle and energy plays whom Noah provided could not be overseen. I think the tandem of Rose and Noah is extremely good. I am not against Carmelo but I think that the Chicago Bulls needs a solid frontline that could help Boozer manning the paint. This player is no other than Joakim Noah.
I see what you guys are saying, but it just depends. Noah is the man, and he’s got rad dance moves. But you can’t tell me that the oppurtunity of getting a perennial MVP candidate isn’t worth it. I like the idea of Melo for Deng and Taj Gibson… but you are just going to have to wait and see how desperate the Nuggets get. If the Nuggets find a better deal and deal him elsewhere… you might not have the chance to land him next year. Noah will get a raise, Boozer’s locked in for a lot of $$$, and you better save a little for your boy Rose. If Melo is looking to move, you better believe that he isn’t taking a big paycut to do it. NY is gonna have the $$$ to get him, and they are decorating his office now… so if it comes down to letting Noah go to get Melo, I’d make sure you think long and hard before turning anything down.
Melo is selfish and not a husle player like Noah.
Carmelo Anthony is the one of the greatest player at the moment!, Noah is good center but if they get Anthony, Chicago will be great contentor of MIAMI!
Chicago don’t trade Noah for Carmelo ! I repeat DO NOT TRADE NOAH !
You could have not said it any better man!!!
you could not have said it any worse too!!!!!!! why don’t you people want carmelo? i am a die hard celtics fan. But even i have seen how noah and melo play. And if the chicago wants to be more dangerous in the east then i have to say ship off noah and bring in anthony.
Deal for shawn marion and keep Noah, Rose and Boozer and u have a great defensive team..whos gonna guard lebron in playoffs? –> shawn marion.
boozer and derrick rose will provide offense, and noah and Marion will defend great!
problem solved!
I Agree with that.
who would you trade marion for?? And marion isnt the greatest defensively. Deng is a much better deal (much better offense and a little less defense than marion)
Why not a loul deng for gerald wallace all around better player defense better than marion offense far as points around deng’s level good third option can finish above the rim block shots rebound stat stuffer why not go at him chicago
I TOTALLY AGREE! This is a deal that is no good for Chicago. I must admit, as a Knicks fan, i want Melo in NY. But if i was a Bulls Fan, u gotta c this as a bad option. I would love to have a center like Noah. he is fearless and can pretty much guard any big in the paint. Melo is nice, no question but finding a Noah is hard pressed!
yea why do i have the slightest feeling you don’t want anthony in chicago bcoz you might miss him in NY.
Old:
Noah, Boozer, Deng, Brewer, Rose
New:
Taj, Boozer, Melo, Brewer, Rose
I don’t know guys, that new lineup looks pretty nice to me.
That is a good point that Taj Gibson should be a starter/ sixth man. But than again, Taj doesn’t have the defense and intensity and drive Noah has. Either way, Chicago is dominant, but im kinda leaning toward keeping Noah…
why not a melo and birdman trade for noah and deng andersen gives you energy night in and night out and top tier shot blockng night in and night out you still get melo enough said with taj being able to split minutes with birdman far as developement any objections
yea so IF chicago plays lakers some how in the finals when bynum and gasol and odom are out there 7’0″ 7’0″ and 6’10″ and chicago puts Taj boozer and melo out there 6’9″, 6’8″, and 6’8″? hows that gonna work kobe will get so tired from shooting so many extra shots from all the extra offensive rebounds
If noah continues developing than it’s not worth to trade him for melo, but it’s not a guarantee that he will. you may think that he is stil young and etc. but you must have forgotten tyson chandler.. when tyson was noah’s age he was putting basically same numbers 11 pts 11 rebs and somewhere around 2 blocks. but after that his numbers were going down.. and if the same scenario happens again . it will definitely be a huge dissapointment in chi that they skipped melo.
one think u are forgeting to think about is joakim’s heart. He brings toughness, heart, intensity to the bulls that tyson chandler didnt, which is the intangible things that dont show up in the stat sheet that makes joakim better than chandler
A trade like this would be idiotic honestly even if melo could help them In a lot (a lot) of ways They’d have no chance against the height of teams like the Lakers Magic and Celtics Not to mention I’m sure it would hurt the morale of the Bulls losing someone like noah
the magic isn’t an elite team dwight is an elite player other than that no one else on the roster is ” elite ” nelson isn’t a top tier guard carter isn’t vinsanity no more he just vincent and rashard lewis is rashard lewis no team the east or west miami included is as deep as the lakers or boston. Washington, chicago, okc, and memphis have the talent, but not enough glue to put it all together.
Yeah, without Howard they dont make the playoffs.
Who the hell would be dumb enough to believe Noah is enough to trade with Carmelo ? The Bulls would have to trade Rose or Boozer to get him this season lol. They have nobody that could be interesting for the Nuggets right now. That is non-sense. Plus Noah is really what Denver doesn’t need atm. They have to replace Melo with a 3 if they want to sell him, there’s nobody at this position to back him up at the moment.
You’re going to lose Melo anyways, might as well get something out of it. All the knicks have to offer is wilson chandler, money, picks, and other additional players. I dont know, but I would trade Noah by itself for Melo (Even though they would include Luol Deng and picks).
Even if Noah becomes what most of you think he already is, it is still worth getting rid of him for a player like Anthony. Are you telling me that sales would not increase if the team got Anthony for anyone but Rose? Are you telling me this team is better with Noah than they would be with Anthony? I don’t see how. It sounds like a case of putting too much value on your players and not enough value on players from other teams.
I know Melo is one of the top players in the league, but even if sales go up, just consider this
- You would have to send Deng to the bench… he is too good to be a 6th man right now, morale will go down and he is too expensive to trade for him right now.
- Melo will be calling the shots, is a coin toss mainly because you will either be inspiring Rose to increase his assists average or you will be telling him he is not good enough to be Bulls leader.
- To get Melo, you will have to send Noah and probably Brewer to cover Anthony’s salary, and you will weaken Chicago in the post position and mainly on the defensive end, Melo is sufficient defensively, but who will be guarding the post… Boozer??? For the love of God he can not defend against an average post.
- Chicago will expend the salary cap they might have in a sign and trade for Melo, or acquiring him as a FA, that will give you wayyyyy less money to renew Rose’s contract later.
- As you might be thinking, that having Lebron and Bosh in MIA, does not mean DWADE is not capable to be the leader as I said it in Rose’s case, this thing is different because Lebron was the one wanting to go to play alongside Wade, he knows that if they can find chemistry they will be like Batman and Robin or Kobe and Shaq (with chemistry because tis 2 did not know what that was), Jordan and Pippen, etc.
- Melo still would like to be “the man” for the bulls, and he has not proven to be the Nuggets “man” yet. Wouldn’t you stick with Rose as the main guy?
You would have to send Deng to the bench… he is too good to be a 6th man right now
Rocket are you from Chicago??? Do you see many Bulls games other than the 2 times you see him when he’s playing Houston? On a good team Deng is lucky to be a 7th man…he’s not that good, simply because Paxon was stupid enough to give him elite money, doesn’t mean he’s an elite player. He’s injured all the time and frankly has not come close to reaching the potential he had coming out of Duke. BTW Noah is not a post player thats why they had to get Boozer, the only reason Noah is any good is due to his hustle and heart….he has very little ability.
Melo isn’t a premadona player he is team player and a winner. If he went to Chicago he wouldn’t mess up the chemistry of the team lol do you remember that he and iverson coexisted as both being top 5 scorers of the league together that says a lot alone. He wouldn’t try to takeover the bulls if anything he fits in he doesn’t have to take 30 shot a night to get his points he hustle for boards he make the big shot at the end of a game. He gives you additional scoring in the post and all over the court he opens up the floor rose brewer and Korver he is a unselfish player and he eats up lebron everytime they play. Deng can be 6th man behind melo on my team any day. bulls line up taj boozer melo brewer rose equals better starting five than any team except the lakers celtics in my opinion
How many SF scored 17pts. and hauled 7rebs. a game last year. And you talking bout on a good team he would ge worse? Its harder to avg those numbers when you are on a bad team. The better your team is, the better you will be. Especially a player like Deng who would thrive when he is a 3rd or 4th option. He was the second best scorer on the team last year and a lot of teams focused on him. With the addition of Boozer, he will thrive and feast off of open looks and drives. Remember I was the one who told you first.
i really want to see melo in red and white and i would offer anyone but rose noah and boozer for him at first .
but it’s tough but i think i would trade noah if it were required .
but maybe it won’t be i would offer deng and korver for melo.
I would make this deal in a heartbeat.
This is from a die-hard Bulls fan. Dont trade noah for melo, bad trade. The Bulls have a very solid team and their still young, dont destroy that. Don’t trade Noah, who is our vocal team leader, who can get 20 points and 20 rebs just with his energy and hustle, who isnt scared of anyone on the court. Don’t make this trade!!!!!!!!!
Hustle does not beat talent
Whoever told you hustle does not beat talent is wrong. Talent without hustle wins you nothing. Ask Michael jordan. He played hard and hustled every game. I much rather have a team of hustling defenders than talented ball hogs any day. Not to say Melo is a ball hog. And who said Noah isnt talented. He is very talented and thats why Denver would want him in that trade. We cant guard the paint without Noah and Boston Miami and Orlando would have free reign in the paint without him. Dont make the trade.
haha. No hustle does beat. Talent. And if you make Derrick Rose (who hasn’t peaked yet) the center of your franchise rather than Melo (Who has peaked), I think it would be better in the long run, with Carlos Boozer and Noah with hustle (probably the most excited, driven, determined player in the league) supporting him. Derrick Rose will probably start in the allstar game soon (him or Rondo.)
no hustle beats talent to the ball and talent is darn close to nothing with out the ball
yes it can, u need hustlers on a team, if u dont hustle then talent means nothing
So people are saying that noah is good enough to stop bosh dwight barngani lopez oneal ( either 1 ) horford and amare to name a few in the east. Please is that what people are saying if he isn’t shutting these guys down night in and night out. why can’t a melo deal be done from what i see tey still we a need a post defender. Noah has heart true so Melo has no heart is what you everyone is saying the same guy that has been the back bone of the nuggets. leading them to be a top tier team in the western conference doesn’t have heart that guy that was going shot for shot with Kobe the one that called out his team for their lack of play against the jazz last year lol yeah i see why that wouldn’t be a good trade.
Melo has the drive to score to help his team win. Noah has the drive to dive on the floor, run into brick walls, whatever it takes to win. I will not say that Noah is the most driven player in the league, but it would be hard to find one who is more driven than he is. You win with players like Noah no matter how many points he scores. Besides the Bulls signed new players who can score.
u need someone to grab rebounds and defend the paint, without oah the bull wouldnt beat boston or heat, and maybe not orlando but thepoint is without noah there is no championship
If they do trade Noah for Melo, that would leave the bulls with the centers Omer Asik and Kurt Thomas. Kurt Thomas has solid defending, but only being 6’9 and being at his twilight years, is at a serious disadvantage when matched up against dwight or amare. and even tho Asik had all star calliber when playing for his team in Turkey, the NBA is far more competitive and talented than the Turkish league. If you give Asik four or five years, under the wing of Thomas, he could become as great as Noah is right now and possibly be this season. But in order to do that, it would take time, somthing the Bulls dont really have if they want to be serious contenders. I’m not gonna lie tho, i would love to see Carmelo in a Bulls jersey, only depending on the cost of it. If the bulsl trade Deng, Gibson (i really hope Taj stays) and Johnson, that might be very considerable. Melo would also be a good forward considering that Boozer is prone to injury but I’d say that the Bulls are good for this season with the squad they have right now. And also, now with newly formed Bulls bench, the Bulls are still a very dangerous team, with or without Carmelo
the bull right now are like the jazz before same one-two punch boozer-dwill now its rose and they get 2 more jazz players so they are the jazz but obviously noah is greater than okur but the jazz can’t win a series against the lakers how can they win if they get the same players on the jazz team that cant beat the lakers if the bulls gets melo i think they have a good chance if they get k-mart or nene on the trade atleast it will be different boozer has no match for gasol and bynum
IM A HUGEEE BULLS FAN AND A HUGEEE JOAKIN NOAH FAN!!! I DONT THINK IS GOING TO BE A GOOD MOVE….WE NEED NOAH ON OUR ROSTER…!!!
IF THEY AGREE A DEAL FOR DENG,TAJ AND JOHNSON….WE WILL BE A TITLE CONTENDER TEAM!
Go ahead Paxson show us what you’re made of.
This move makes no sense . The bulls are a defensive team now and its dumb they would think about giving up their best Defensive player? If they trade Noah that would make coach thib’s job alot harder .
they gave up hinrich therir best perimeter defender.
who was coming off the bench alot
Now they have Brewer, a taller and better defender. Are you even a Bulls fan. Sounds like you are hating because they got better.
Melo should go to Charlotte. If they can use Dampier’s expiring contract and maybe add Diaw and a Draft pick, both teams would receive basically what they need: Charlotte would get an elite scorer and go-to guy which they desperately crave, and Denver would get a few assets that would provide financial versatility and good pieces to start building over. Imagine an offense run by Melo and Stephen Jackson with Gerald Wallace as a third option. Besides, Melo would be working for the guy that owns the brand that produces his signature shoes, so I see it as a win-win situation.
deng, taj gibson, kyle korwer and one first rounder for melo. Guys dont forget ömer aşık the new turkısh center is coming to town. With a point guard like rose that dude will rock the rims. He is a great rebounder and fine finisher around the rim. Just watch him. I watched him for 2 years. He can be like taj gibson next year no dought.
You are right man about ömer aşık, I forgot he is coming to Bulls, well this deal must be done if its possible, Noah-Dang and if needed some1 else are for sure worth trading for such a good player like Carmelo is.
I think Bulls should trade for Carmelo, Noah is good center and he can do defensive job, but man Carmenlo is top 5 player and is only 26!!! If you get Carmelo then Chicago has absolutely all in offence for many many years to come and for defense they will need to get 1 big man, maybe they wont get it this year, but for real they will get him next summer if its their only and main target. Chicago would need center like Kendrick Perkins or some1 like that which is much easier than to get such a talent like Carmelo.
In my opinion deal for Carmelo is chance you get once in 10-15 years and it must be taken! Rose-Boozer-Melo trio would be something amazing for Chicago, maybe not title awarded this year, but in next few they would get ring 100%.
You don’t mortgage your future….You don’t have a future without at least one top 5 guy on your team. Melo is that franchise player, that top 5 player. I love Rose but there is no garantee he’ll ever be a top 5 player, he should equate to a top five at his posiyion, if he isn’t already…but that’s not enough. I’d trade Deng, Noah and the next 2 first rounders for Anthony straight up. (of course only with a deal to keep him long term in place.)
To just be very honest Noah isn’t that good…….at all….to refuse a trade for melo..stop all this patriotic crap…You don’t need a dominate center when u got a dominate play maker and a wing man like Carmelo who will make room for just about anybody inside. And if u worried about defense, u must forgot who’s Chicago new coach….Boston Celtics didn’t ever have a “great” center, they just had a decent one…
can someone name one team that won the nba championship in last 20 years without a center that was able to at least play defence andgrab rebounds, u cant name any which is why the bulls need noah
i think it s a pretty good deal but chicago should try to trade luol deng+taj gibson for anthony
why is it so ridiculous to project how good the miami heat will be when it seems every bulls fan is doing the same thing regarding this trade?! rose boozer and noah have not played one game together. we dont know how their chemistry will be together. why not trade for carmelo if you can get him? carmelo is a top ten player (just entering his prime) and the bulls have lost a huge go-to guy in ben gordon. carmelo is one of the few guys in the league that can erase the loss of gordon’s impact. the bulls would have enough firepower offensively to still be a major force with any serviceable center.
remember, none of the 2k champion detroit pistons were noted for defense until it was pressed upon them by larry brown (defend, or don’t play). rose and melo will have to put in the work like lebron has done to really improve their individual defense if they want to go to the next level. if they do so, noah’s departure will be minimal.
I have seen a couple people make comments that Noah is not a game changer like Melo. The only truth is Melo can change the game offensively but Noah changes the game defensively. And it is harder to find a defensive changer than an offensive game changer. Especially at the center position. Center is very thin in the league and you dont give up a center that can defend, rebound, run the floor, has good passing skills, and intangibles that dont show up on the stat sheet. Melo is only going to score for you. So why get rid of a better all around player for a scorer when you already have guys who can score for you but dont have guys with Noahs potential. It doesnt make sense and I am glad the Bulls are not stupid enough to do that.
In comparison of the 2 if you were to swing a deal that brought melo and birdman then they have evrything noah does and then some melo would be what gordon did but even more consistent melo is a 25= and 7 to 8 boards a night and is commited to playing defense. when comes down to it melo would and is a greater peice to making a title run than noah is. chicago doesn’ have a homerun guy or a closer to lean on ( no disrespect to rose ), but you need a closer in the nba to put the game away defense or not thats why the great teams win finals the closers bulls MJ celtics Bird Pistons Isaiah lakers Shaq/Kobe 08 celtics Pierce 04 Pistons Chauncey every championship teams needs that guy that seals the deal in the last few minutes. right now in the nba there is only about five of them 1. Kobe 2. Melo 3. Durant 4. Wade 5. Pierce For the next 5 years or so each team that wins the finals will have one of those guys on there. The bulls have been outed every year with their good defense.
The Bulls gave up 106 pts a game in the playoffs last year. You call that defense. The Bulls have the pieces to be a whole lot better defensively. Thats another reason they added Thibs. He is a defensive minded coach. Adding Melo and subtracting Noah would be defeating the whole purpose of bringing Thibs in to coach. Noah heads the defense. All I can say is wait til the season starts then you will see. With Noah they have an identity. Without him then they are searching for a new identity.
Any real Chicago fan and ppl who watch every game know, including Noah in a trade is a “NO NO” I live in Chicago and watch every gm I can, Noah is the “HEART AND HUSTLE” Of this team, I don’t see the bulls being anything without him. I beg do not trade Noah, even tho MELO has good offense, we need def. NOAH WILL always be a bull.
If you saw melo play everyday, you might change your view.
someone should tell the bulls players they can score, because i am not sure they are aware of it… the bulls averaged 96 points last year; their opponents averaged 106 (in the playoffs)…
in the playoffs they faced the Cleveland Cavaliers and Lebron James! It’s hard to be the 8th seed going in there and defend a two-time scoring, defending and dishing MVP. Lebron was on top in that series. I know you’re going to say how did they lose to Boston but they lost to Boston because Lebron was playing so-so and wasnt getting help. But in that Chicago-Cleveland series, Lebron was showing why he was MVP.
In regard to Noah (I know you didnt say anything bout this but im just ranting right now
), He is one of the most underrated players in the league. During the playoffs and the end of the regular season, he was averaging 20 points and 20 rebounds, and also bringing energy to the rest of the team. Dont trade. Just Dont. You’ll see in a couple of years if you dont when the Bulls are in the Eastern Conference Finals or maybe even the Finals (If one of Miamis figures is injured… *cough* *cough* Chris Bosh *cough* *cough*)
Who rebounds for the cavs i could get 20 boards right now lol. Lebron choked against boston and then he quit on his team. Noah averaged 15 and 13 sir in that series. Melo averaged 30 and 9.
Currently, the Bulls have the deepest young roster in the league. The only changes need to be made are adding another perimeter shooter who can also defend. If they decide to trade for Anthony, I would package Deng, Johnson, and two picks (1st and 2nd rounders) for Anthony. If that doesn’t work possibly include Gibson but takeback the 1st round pick. I would not trade Noah.
Have you looked at boston washington lakers lately
lakers are old, celtics are old, and washington vs bulls cmon now the bulls are way better, that is why he said best young deep team, read please
I think I have this issue sorted out.
Clearly Melo is a much better player than Noah BUT Bulls fas are hesitant to accept the trade… Why?
Because they have gone so long without winning. Now that the team has potential (at least perceived potential) they don’t want to rock the boat at all and risk having it all go away for another decade.
It’s like a scientist working on a new potion… he gets his mixture close to where he wants it, not exactly, but close… and the closer he gets the more nervous he is to add any new ingrediants because he doesn’t want to risk ruining the hard work he has already put in.
Either way, I hope they can find a way to make the league better.
ps. congrats to everyone on not letting this comment section degenerate into verbal warzone.
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The Bulls shouldnt trade Noah, NOT for the future, but for now. The Bull, right now, have a GREAT team and in my eyes should be able to contend for the title in the east. They have pretty much EVERYTHING a team needs to be elite right now (elite point guard, shooters, low post scoring, wing defender, hustling big man, defensive minded coach) and are probably one solid big body in the middle away from being NBA title contenders (hopefully they found that in their rookie big man). If the bulls did however included noah in a trade for melo it would absolutely have to be for money and publicity…
Let’s be serious here, you can always find another defensive minded center to replace Noah in the draft with skills enough to score points and get rebounds but finding another player like MELO that has at least 5 to 8 more productive years of playing time is a deal you do not pass up. I understand wanting to keep Noah, but please!
Name 10 players that have the potential to average a double double. It is more rare than you think. Its hard to find players of Noahs pedigree. A center that not only rebounds and defend but hustles like he is a little guy. If there are so many players to sub him that are availabel name em and the maybe I could understand what you mean but if you cant you got to second guess yourself.
al jefferson, zach randolph, al horford, josh smith, dwight howard, gerald wallace, david lee, kevin love, amare stoudemire, andrew bynum ,demarcus cousins, brook lopez, derrick favors, javale mcgee, Robin Lopez, Andrew Bogut, Chris Kaman now name 10 of them you wouldn’t choose to have over Noah.
Again Otis you dont understand nothing I posted. I said name 10 who are available that we could pick up. Everyone you named are under contract with other teams and not being traded. And we are talking about centers not forwards. You named six centers but the only one I would want over Noah would be D-Howard. None of those other guys made a huge difference to their teams success like Noah. Check the Bulls record with Noah and Rose playing together compared to when they were injured last year. Noah does things that most of those guys including Howard dont do. He dribbles well, hustle, he is quicker than all of them. and he plays better defense than all of them except Howard. I do like the potential of Javale Mcgee though. He looks like he is going to have a big year.
the thing is how can the bulls get them to leave their teams to come to the bulls, and most that he listed are not better than noah or are power forwards. the thing is u dont need an elite scorer to win a title but u do need a good defensive center and good rebounding center
I say trade deng, gibson/johnson and asik for melo, but never include noah into the mix. Sure Melo is a GREAT pickup but imagine having a team with no legit center that’s just stupid.
I think that melo is one of the best players in the nba but he dont have heart , he is like lebron and chris bosh they need a player who take control of the game and take the dificults shoots and the responsability for bad decisions . Noah is the chicago bulls defensive heart , he’s young , agressive and attletic .. that’s not a commun combination in this days in the nba .. he know what he need do to win a game and ho know he’s spot in the team .. carmelo is a good scoring player but , he is not awesome ( like the miz ) .. chicago need shooting guard maybe one like jayson richardson or manu ginobili
Did you watch any nuggets playoff games before to say that melo is like lebron is false melo has never quit on his team and he avg. 30ppg and 9rpg a game last playoffs and when denver needs a shot they go to him 1st I think you may want to look at some highlights sir before making that statement. Far as scoring he is definitely one of the top 5 scorers in the league, but top 3 far as scoring versatility he can score from everywhere from tabove the rim to 3 point line with or without the ball efficiently. there aren’t too many better all arond scorers than melo name 5 players that are better scorers all around i’ll give you 2 Kobe, Durant……..
The Bulls should NOT TRADE NOAH. Melo is a very good player and if they can get him for Taj, Johnson and Deng I would do the trade. Trading Noah leaves a big hole in the center position. Noah competes well against all but the most dominate centers(Howard,Shaq). if we lose Noah we have to go find a center to anchor the team. Who is available??? It is easier to find a Melo than a Noah plain and simple. You can’t teach size
Noah owned Shaq in the playoffs last year. He is too slow.
Okay all you guys are retarded… this would not be a good move because they would be throwing away Noah for 1 season of Melo. Do any of you seem to understand he already said he intends to sign with the Knicks NEXT SUMMER?! Sure the Bulls would be an elite team but they won’t beat Miami’s big 3 with Boozer Rose and Anthony. He is coming to New York because he is a man, (unlike LeBron) his wife wants him here, and if Melo comes to New York, CP3 will be on his way the next season. If the Bulls are smart they will not trade a young center who is set to have a breakout season to get Melo for one season then losein the Eastern Conference Finals. And my man Danilo Gallinari is getting NO RESPECT. he is the best replacement SF Nuggets could ask for. and they are looking for cheap and young players like him. The Nuggets organization is completely stupid for not considering Gallo and they are also stupid for saying they can contain Carmelo Anthony??? The new GM is lame. Just trade him already. He’s Gone.
Everybody goes East…
what’s up with that?
Besides winning the All-Star Game, I don’t see any good in it
F, it leaves LAL open door to Finals
Just ain’t fair
(But we’ll be ready/healthy next 7th Game, you just wait)
I think it is just a matter of perception. The CHANCE that a team in the East can end up in the playoffs is perceived to be much better in the East than the West. A 41 or 44 wins season can get you into the Eastern Conference, in the West you wouldn’t get a sniff at the 8th spot. Players are tired of slogging their way through the West only to see Eastern teams, in the past, reach the playoffs with a .500 record.
Plus over the past 5 years Eastern teams have been dumping salaries in hopes of the great free agent signing, so the Eastern teams have (had) more teams there with money to spend.
Haha who are you zanzibar!? You know so much and are always here! Wise comment. Boozer will not be missed though. Jefferson stay’s healthy this year and he’ll put up the same offensive numbers and twice the defensive. Phoenix is probably gonna hurt though. Nash’s scoring will go up. Which is actually a bad thing haha. Where will his passes go??
To zzanzabar, how long have u been following the nba cuz most of the times i like wat u read, u seem like the type of dude dat could make a good potential fantasy team without going by name, i would like to have u in a fantasy nba to see who would u just when things get thight, last year i won 6 of my 10 fantasy by going with players that had bad record but broke out. Anyway i like ur commnets at time keep it up
melo should go to the magic and get traded for rashard lewis and a rookie
I think the deal exchanging Melo for Noah and Deng is worth it. Bulls would be strong with Boozer, Rose, and Melo (BIG THREE)
It is Noah who gives them the biggest advantage against Miami. They dont have a center they mathces his defense and intensity at all. Mathcing Melo and Lebron still gives them the advantage at SF. It does not make the bulls better against elite teams because all of them have size. We cant afford to lose Noah.
why settle for melo rose and boozer when you can have melo rose boozer and noah with all the depth behind them to take on bron wade and bosh?
why do the bulls need a good center? name me the centers they won all those championships with in the 90s cuz they were hall of famers right? oh wait they werent? your jokin they werent even good defensive players? who knew….idiots lol you have to take anthony if you can get him you can find a servicable defensive center pretty much every year on the wire
If you take a look in history not many teams won a championship without a valuable center. Lakers had Kareem in the 80′s. The Celtics had Parish. Houston had Olajuwan. San antonio had Robinson and Duncan. Lakers had Shaq. Do I need to go on. Those were all the champs in the last 3 decades. I did not mention the bulls because they didnt have a good center but they had MJ. That is what made him so great is that he won without a good center. But they did have height. All the other stars had good or great centers to help them win a championship. We need Noah. No one is as good as he is that is avalilable.
Noah isn’t a bum true, but you just put noah in the same catergory as olajuwan robinson duncan shaq kareem and parrish reall y come on he doesn’thold a candle to any of them. Also he isn’t even as good defensively as they were.
Noah is good buut he isn’t even top 5 at the 4 or 5 position valuable yes top tier big man he is not. Emerging possibly allstar selection nope not for a long while people.
I was stating the fact that you need a reliable center to win a championship. I didnt put Noah in there category. But for todays centers, he is definitely capable of being top 10. The only center that could of played in that era is D-Howard. Noah has a lot more talent and skill and hustle than most of the centers in the league. And if you dont know that then you havent seen him play that often. Noah has gained a lot of respect around the league and many coaches would love to have him on their team. Why do you think
Denver would want him. He is no slouch. Matter of fact the top 3 centers in the east are Howard, Bogut, and Noah. Dont be ridiculous dude.
I love Noah in chicago too. but you also left out detroit. unless you consider ben wallace a great center? defensively he was but never averaging over ten points a game in his career? i cant consider him an all around great. plus they beat the lakers who had shaq AND the mailman karl malone that year. ben and rasheed against karl and shaq. hmmm.
Trading for Carmelo in exchange for Noah isn’t a great idea for my hometown Bulls. Carmelo is a gifted athlete, but Noah has potential to be great. He’s improved his game each season. If the Bulls were to aquire Carmelo, he could opt out of his contract after the 2010-2011 season – it’s not worth the risk.
Now you made a good point, but noah can be great and melo can’t be? About the contract situation I see why they shouldn’t trade, but other than that???????? Everybody melo is more talented true and people are saying has defense the coach can’t help Melo with his d which isn;t like it garbage?
If Chicago don´t get Melo, probably New York or New Jersey are gonna be more than interested on signing him. I say get Melo now, secure him and sing a decent free agent like Louis Amundson to do the dirty work that needs to be done in the paint.
I think it all depends on the terms of the deal. You all (including you Mr. Smith) can’t be serious about not trading Noah for the Melo Man if it’s a straight up swap. I recognize that Noah is a good center and those can be hard to come by, but Melo’s one of the top three scorers in the world, and a top ten player for sure. You can’t pass that up. I don’t think it will happen though because Denver won’t trade Melo if all they got in return was Noah.
i cant believe what im hearing. i agree with raf, i would make this deal in a second. i cant believe that people are even debating this. Should of been me, goodbye Noah hello Anthony. Melo is top three best scorers in basketball, Noah is still developing. Oh and if he does go, sorry but it would eventually be Melos team not Rose. I really cant believe this is a debate.
How many top scorers have won championships. You see Kobe has chosen to score less to win rings. We dont need scoring, we need defense and rebounding like ever other championship team.
Jordan Kobe Shaq Bird Olajuwan Kareem Wilt Wade Pierce West the question is which team has only won it with defense besides the 04″ Pistons?
@Otis
You are right. I meant scoring champions not top scorers. My bad.
i think that if carmelo gose 2 chicago that the bulls will b a better team with him on the team and they will b able 2 compete with teams like the celts and the heata and the magic.and the nuggs will have a good back-up 4 nene and k-mart.so ala and all both teams i think get a big boost from these players.
Trading Noah will not be a good idea..we all know Melo is a superb athlete and he can put points in the tab but if the Bulls have to cut an leg to get a stronger arm that wouldnt help at all, Chicago already have a strong core (rose,noah&deng) good additions (boozer,korver,brewer,asik,watson&bogans) promising backups (gibson,johnson). If Chicago really wants to have Melo onboard they need o find a better way to acquire him.
Off topic… but who made the NBA summer report cards? Giving the celtics only a B while ranking numerous mediocre teams ahead.
Bostons summer
Convinced Doc to return
Resigned Pierce and Allen (maintaining the big 3)
Signed J Oneal
Shaq
D West
Plus a few rookies
Sounds like a good summer to me
and sorry posting this here but I am so angry at those silly little rankings. I’ll get back on topic and say that Noah is a great fit for Chi, after the 09 playoffs he is by far one of my least favorite players but he definitely deserves some respect. Hes one of those guys that will get under your opponents skin and come up with big plays
about boston having a good offseason, because they didn’t have a good summer at all, you say they maintained the big 3 but they are now the Old 3 and by adding J Oneal (who is, as you have seen in miami/boston series not very good) and adding Shaq who is now 38.
they didn’t accomplish anything this summer from my point of view.
melo should go to the bulls, cause he would screw up their chemistry, i bet they can get to the 6/ 7/ 8th seed just by having great chemistry.
You goofs who say don’t trade Noah are the same idiots who didn’t want to trade Deng for Kobe! How’d that work out for you? Make this trade in a heartbeat!
One names come to mind when you consider the trade Melo for Noah: Dwight Howard. Dwight is the center to beat, if you can’t beat him one on one, it’s been proven again and again that Dwight will take control of the game and the Magic will win. Noah is a tough defender, and he’ll only get better cause he’s so young, to trade that away for a offensive master will destroy a good team (don’t believe me, ask Detriot.) There also really aren’t any replacements for Noah, Miller is gone, and Gibson is not a true center. Melo is an attractive offer, but why take a risk and potentially ruin a good thing?
Also, offense wins regular season games, but defense wins chapionships, just saying.
AGREED. Totally Right.
Then how did boston beat orlando dwight howard is a force, but he isn’t there offensively to takeover a whole game thats why the magic will continue to get bounced every year and are you guys saying that noah can one on one dwight really Perkins did a better job
bulls don’t need ‘melo this time.he’s a star yes, but giving up noah would be a waste as well. bulls can actually make orlando and heat run for their money with these line up – rose brewer deng boozer noah … so melo will just clog the SF spot and bulls will miss the middle.
I do have to admit that I enjoy watching Noah’S (better version of mark Madson ) hustle, rebound, and defend like crazy performance on the court every night. I think he is a good overall young center (He needs to improve his post game though) with a lot of talent. However, the Bulls are still the either the 4th or 3rd beet team in the east. I like the additions that they made during the offseason, but they are still not championship caliber. The east is very strong and we don’t know yet how good Miami is going to be, so Melo makes a lot of sense. He is one of the best scorers in the league and would defiantly make them a better team. (Rose= penetrate at will to the lane, Boozer= decent in the post with good shot, Noah =great rebounder, great at blocking shots, good defender, and outstanding energy. And then Melo= really good jump shot which will spread the floor for rose, good post player for his position, Melo= 27-30 points a night. (Hey Kobe said that Melo is the most difficult player for him to guard). It’s tough because Noah needs to stay, so trade Deng. Melo instead of Deng makes the Bulls a lot more dangerous. Will they be championship material with Melo? I am not sure (maybe one more player), but they would definitely be able to better challenge the elite of the east.
I agree that trading Noah for Carmelo would be a huge mistake. ‘Melo puts up huge numbers, is a great offensive player, and has had a lot of success in Denver, which brings me to my next point: Why is he so upset that he is demanding a trade? I think that, fundamentally he is a me, me, me type of player and could potentially ruin the team chemistry in Chicago. Think about it, how well did the AI, ‘Melo experiment work? The nuggets didn’t really reach the upper echelon in the Western Conference until they traded away AI (another selfish player) for Chauncey Billups, who is the ultimate team first type of player. Don’t do it Chicago.
Does anybody actually watch Melo games he doesn’t even take massive amounts of shots the dude was able to share the rock with a.i. and still be tops in scoring. Melo wants out of denver 1st his family second denver doesn’t make any moves to get better the billups trade didn’t pan out to be any better they gave big contracts to kmart and nene that jammed thier pockets they won’t trade anyone to get anyone jr smith never panned out and in the off season all they did was go get al harrington horrible management is why he wants out they could have got pieces to make that team a contender but they didn’t a.i. honestly was their best move, but they didn’t stick with it they would have been way better with building around those two then chauncey honestly. all the players that moved around they didn’t do anything. could have shopped Jr Smith and chauncey this off season to get better. A selfish player Melo isn’t anting to comepete to win he is lol watching L.A get better every year while your team picks up Harrington.
Guess mello is pulling a lebron. I don’t think he should tho. The reason why is, his team doesn’t suck. Denver just need better bench players and they had an assistant coach as a head coach for the entire post season and part of the 2nd of the regular season.
Carmello, stop bitching and give denver one more chance. Hell, at least Bosh and Lebron waited until the contracts was up. I mean they haven’t did much this summer, but they did get al harrington, which would improve your bench.
I understand with the big 3 looming, mello wanting to be in “win now” position. I mean there roster isn’t that much of a upgrade then denver’s roster. I mean you have an elite point guard at bulls and one at denver even though chauncey is getting old, he’s coming off his best scoring season. So he must still be in his prime…SG you have affallo which i believe is a better defender and shooter then ronnie brewer. PF you have boozer which we can all agree is better then the inconsistent kenyon martin. And at Center you have noah who has great potential but still i don’t believe he’s better then Nene yet. He will be in another 1-2 years.
So all and all…..why not just give denver one more year dude. I mean i understood lebron situation watching the cavs since he’s been in the league, he got sick of them putting old washed up players by him expecting them to perform like they did in their prime (ben wallace, antawn jamison, shaq). At least lebron gave them one last chance, mello you’re QUITING on denver and your coach George Karl if you leave denver before the season starts.
I mean cmon dude, you were coachless for 1/3 of the season! you can’t blame your team on that factor.
He can’t leave they want to trade becaus he won’t resign for 3 more years
i would’nt trade noah 4 melo bcuz like sum one said earlier melo said he would sign with da knicks nxt season so we would lose noah4 just one year of melo. melo’s contract is up nxt year so he could easily b gone i dnt thnk thats a good trade even doe melo is talented scoring wise but noah brings life to da bulls point blank
But what if the Bulls trade Luol Deng and someone else with an addition of a first round draft pick for Melo
Joakim Noah is a good player on the verge of being very good. His minimal offense and recently-injured feet are more than offset by his aggressive rebounding, defensive length, passing ability, ballhandling and end-to-end speed. His screaming and gesticulating make people happy.
Carmelo Anthony, however, is an elite player who would immediately create a contender with Carlos Boozer and Derrick Rose. There is no reason not to do this, especially with a contract extension as part of the arrangement.
Dan Bernstein WSCR
My sentiments exactly.
without a doubt Noah is a solid piece to the bulls rebuilding but in no way can you pass up one of the best players in the league! It will be the same mistake when we missed out on Kobe because we didnt want to give up Deng, and we saw what happened. People dont be fools, ofcourse trade a solid good player for a star, you need stars to win championships, melo is CHICAGOS STAR
Lets take a look at the bulls team right now. They want to be a championship team do they not? With the team the have right now, are they? I highly doubt it. Sure they are a good team but would they be able to compete against the top teams like the lakers, celtics, miami, etc. for the championship? i don’t think so. If they get melo and add a few more pieces regarding the fact that they’ll have to give more than just noah for melo, i think then they will have a team capable of competing for a championship. To say that melo would not help this team is absurd. I’m not even a fan of the bulls but if i was and heard that melo wanted to come to chicago and we would have to give them noah along with a few others, i would be pretty excited. You guys must not know about melo if you guys are still debating if this would be a good move or not. Melo is one of the best players in the league! I doubt anyone on the bulls team besides rose could become as great of a superstar as melo. If it was me, i would definitely give up noah and probably deng (a few others too) for melo.
for me i will keep noah and give deng and gibson instead plus a futre 2nd round pick for melo i think denver will agree with that! imagine NOAH, BOOZER, MELO, ROSE! WTF AWESOME FAVE 4! FANTASTIC FOUR!
Chicago Miami
Boozer < Bosh – Boozer is an elite awesome power forward….but Bosh is just a tad more talented
Melo < James – Sorry, Melo is a scoring machine & I hate James but come on! Its Lebron James!
Rose < Wade – I really would like to put an (=) there but think its still a season away…..
Now….No trade…..
Chicago Miami
Boozer < Bosh – see above
Deng < James – see above….Its Lebron James Biiiiiaaatchhh!
Rose everything the heat can throw at him!
LOL do you watch the Lebron Melo games melo always owns lebron when play every year you might want to make that a equal sign sir.
why the heck does it keep editing my comment? I put rose everything the heat throw…why is it edited?
replace rose with noah…..in that last line….
DEFENSE win titles not offense
I think melo should go 2 miami
Well to be honest.. The nuggets might be forced to lose Melo if they don’t trade him this season.. Bulls has Deng and Knicks has no one except Gillinari.. so it will be interesting to see if the Nuggets will hold out and risk losing him for Nothing..
Please dont include noah on the deal. Id agree for taj+deng+korver/johnson for anthony indeed. chicago would be the best contrary team for the miami heat if that happened .
pg:rose
sg:brewer
sf:carmelo
pf:boozer
c:noah
IF THE BULLS CAN TRADE TAJ GIBSON AND J.JOHNSON FOR MARC GASOL THEN THEY COULD EASILY TRADE FOR MELO. BUT NO MATTER WHAT I TRADE FOR MELO BECAUSE THERE NOT WINNING THIS YEAR ANYWAY AND CHANDLER AND DALEMBART ARE FREE AGENTS NEXT YEAR. L. DENG J. NOAH FOR MELO !!! CHICAGO HAS TO DO IT. I’M A LAKERS FAN, I FEEL THEY HAVE NO CHOICE IF THIS IS ALL IT TAKES TO GET MELO.
noah sucks lol u guys are all dumb with you( omg noah is the heart and soul of chicago dnt trade him) lol i would trade him for melo any day they could pick up a replacment center later if you guys will regret it when the bulls dnt get melo cause of you guys all because you didnt wanna give up a cry baby center when he dosent get better you will all regret it lol! and then he will win a championship with the knicks along side stat and cp3 or t.parker just wait andd see
it would be better to include luol deng instead of noah. the contracts would work out if the bulls included a little more, or if they inclulded a lot more and got j.r. smith
don’t be Joe dumars, granted noah is not darko
Never ever trade Noah except if it is for dwight hahaha
To me i dont see y Melo wanna leave so bad when ur team had 53 or more win but played crappy in the playoff n martin wasnt there but will come back, all the need is better player as a bench n Bulls would b stupid to go for Melo cuz he is on of the top 5 or great scorer, i believe rose could score, boozer will b better will rose n knowing knowing also will b there in paint n Deng will give u 18 n up points a night so just b happy with ur team right n ur bench not dat bad, n let Melo act like a little girl else where
noah will stay with the bulls up until the end of his career if they want him. boozer is there only for the money. they’ll lose him eventually
Say no to “Melo” in Chicago
Having the chance to pick up a superstar like Melo is an opportunity that cannot be passed.
YES noah has become a solid player with the bulls… But come on,,, NOAH or CARMELO?
Rose, Boozer, and Anthony is almost like having Wade, Bosh, and Lebron…
Bulls,,,, go get your Superstar
but remember this, having a star SF isnt always the best, to have a championship caliber team, a team must have a good PG and or a good PF and C, such as the Lakers, both Gasol and Bynum can shut down the paint and can also score in the paint, rebound, block, etc, they also have a good PG in Fisher who can hit big shots, but they also have the addition of Kobe, who is the star, but having a star SG or SF isnt the best idea.
what about the bulls pippen and MJ
I think Melo for Deng is just enough to make the trade(without including NOAH).
Why? They are both SF with shooting as their primary offense without low post ability. I mean for a 6’8 guy with a huge body and a high leaping skills but cannot post up is just an upset for me.
joakim noah a great center are you kidding me he plays no defense he scores like 8 points a game lets be serious noah in a trade for melo would be a steal.
We will see how miuch defense he plays when he has 20 reb. and stops Amare on christmas day.
ur dumb. noah is all about defense. he is one of the best defensive centers in the league. and he scores 10 ppg and grabs 11 rpg, that is real good. and in the playoffs he had a couple 20+ point games and averaged 11 rpg. well, u are a knicks fan, its not suprising that u have no basketball knowledge
If melo goes to chicago then the Bulls will be a great team to watch again just like the jordan era.
rose – brewer – anthony – boozer – noah = Championship caliber team
with korver as a reserve wow this team is awesome
but that cant happen, not enough cap space for them, they gotta send either Noah, or Boozer out.
west will loose their starting SF all star! good thing they have kevin durant..
and yes trade noah for anthony! bulls survived almost half of the season anyway without noah, and they got boozer now, they have omer asik a 7 foot rookie which will develop(hopefully) and taj gibson is there too so why not trade noah? orr bulls should do what the cavs did last year, trading big Z for jamison! noah will be inactive then nuggets will waive him then wait for 30 days then welcome back noah! hahahaha!
NO WAY to Carmello! Noah is the Bulls rock and future. Carmelo is too selfish to be any use to any team… he’ll bump up the numbers, but is no guy to take a team to a championship.
Go Paxson it’s your call not these people here…
But for me I honestly think you should get Carmelo even if Noah should be traded for him, here are my reasons:
-you say Noah and Rose tandem was good but did you consider what Carmelo and Rose tandem would be like.
-Carmelo is a born scorer and can take clutch shots anytime it would help Chicago specially in playoffs.
-its worth the risk and Chicago’s sales would definitely if not dramatically increase.
-he’s better than Lehype Lebron, he can contend even with Kobe and the Lakers plus he can defend people underrate his defensive ability.
-yes hustle (Noah) is good but without talent (Melo) you are limited.
-you could always find a hard working center that can produce rebounds and low post at draft night but Melo come on he’s one of a kind gifted player.
This debate is useless, I understand the meaning of heart in Noah but this is NBA win or go home pack your things and watch the playoffs as losers.
i think meLo for Noah will be a good trade..they still have a fine center on ömer aşık..dont forget it guys..with Rose-Melo-Boozer on the team..it will stand a chance against the elite teams of the east..remember on jordan era..they dont have a great center..but they have a defensive minded player on Rodman which i think Boozer could provide..and on second thought..how about a package of Melo and Anderson on the team..it will be GREAT!(:
the bulls suck …. melo would make them better like the jordan days . noash wack , never an allstar , and he thinks hes good . if he is the face of chicago, i would hate to be a fan of that team. he aint mj or even an allstar i prefer rose being the face – u can only have one . again noah sucks and toronto smashed chicago so many times ,. we fell short at the end of the season not because of chicago , that was a bird win we gave you and it seems like it made u feel good going into round one. what ever haha . Bosh eats noah every time at th 4 or 5 and its so funny to watch. noah foul trouble , bosh and 1, bosh step back jump shot in your face , bosh poster that chump lol. noah never gets and 1s , derrick does so tell noah to beat it like he loves himself !
Right now the Bulls have one the best starting frontcourts, both Noah and Boozer are great rebounders, shot blockers and can score in the paint, and giving that up for Melo, sounds real tempting but I wouldnt do it, no matter how good Melo is. I would still prefer Melo goes to Orlando, a trade deal sending Melo and J.R Smith to Orlando and VC and maybe Pietrus or Richardson to Denver, Melo is the great player and can form a feared duo with Dwight Howard in Orlando, also a player like Smith who is similar to VC except a much better 3pt shooter, him and Melo in Orlando will help beat the Celtics, Heats and Lakers, Melo is a great defender and will be able to guard Pierce, Lebron and Kobe really well and he can also match them shot for shot, but Melo can most likely beat Pierce offensively. Melo please go to Orlando, my favourite team to win a championship.
couldnt agree with you more!!!!!! every team needs a solid center and a gud passer for a championship!…..and with joakim out of the equation, the bulls will lose their potential to win a championship!!!!!! and the team is already gud enough………..trading noah for carmelo would be a mistake!!!
im gonna join the dont trade noah for melo fan club. thats because i want him here in new york.
you foolish little girls are acting like the nuggets would make the playoffs if they traded noah for melo. and just to tell you i think birdman is just as effective as noah minus the complaining. all i know is that its gonna be fun to watch melo with the knicks beating up on the bulls in the playoffs.
and just to let some people know melo has very good anticipation and quick hands…hes great on defense.
In 10 years noah is going to be known for 1 thing being trade bait for carmelo.
Get Melo and Anderson for Noah and Deng! its a steal baby! come on!
Bull’s line up:
pg-Rose
sg-Brewer
sf-Melo
pf-Boozer
c-Asik
it will stand against MIA/ORL/C’s/LA for sure!
it wouldnt be the owrs thing if they got rid of noah because they have Taj Gibson who could easily flourish in the role Noah PLayed.
Anytime you have a chance to land a superstar you do it.Carmelo is a good fit for the bulls. Remember MJ bulls never had a dominant center when they won 6 titles. Go for it Chicago.
Never a team won a championship without the best insiders to rebound and defend. If bulls trades Noah, i’m afraid they are going the opposite direction acquiring a champion.
How I wish Denver would be stupid enough to get Deng, he’s sort of expendable now if their upgrading the SF spot. Maybe find a third team willing to be conduit and send a couple players their way to, the Bulls are going to be very good this season as they have an top rated PG, maybe Anthony or even Deng is already good, then Boozer and Noah. Not to mention you have Korver and Gibson off the bench.
A incredibly good coach who will emphasize defense, if he can make Boozer commit to defense and the whole team shall play defense as a unit it’s going to be scary. The only hole I wish they plug as well is at the two guard, Brewer is good no doubt, but if an upgrade swings by I should say they take it. I’m not really sold that Brewer is your ideal starting guard if you want to be playing late in may or even june, chicago will find it hard if they face the likes of Wade and Kobe, plus the problem of when on offense he gets placed on a small forward which he”ll have a hard time defending. Just a thought, teams might abuse the Bulls at the 2 more than any other position.
I say trade DRose and Noah for Melo…
Please dont do it CHICAGO
The Bulls are well on their way to becoming contenders, Melo is an exceptional talent but with a ball dominating point guard like Rose, its not the best fit for Melo or the Bulls. The defense displayed by Chicago was anchored by Noah and with Tom Thibedeau at the helm, that defense will be even better this season. Chicago definitely has the pieces to make the deal but in my opinion, they should pass and stick with the team concept.
If we cud trade Deng n a couple of bigs, while still keepn the most important big n Joakim 4 melo……….then I’m all 4 it. Can u just c this line-up: DRose, Melo, Boozer, Noah? That’ll b crazy rite there. Miami who? LMAO!
Honestly, I think Chicago should pull the trigger for this trade. If Noah is not an option maybe try the next best deal. How about; Melo for Taj Gibson, Deng and a future 1st round pick? In this way, everyone wins. Melo would be playing for a true contender and may upset the Heat in the East while Denver would will still have a descent scorer in SF, a healthy PF with star potential and a future possible star.
Chicago had chance to get Kobe before and they were too scared and never passed in the 1st round. Now, they are given a 2nd chance while Melo is still in his prime. If they didn’t go with this trade not they’ll hurt their chance on a championship but they’ll their chance of gaining a superstar.
ei knicksareback1 what u saying.. noah is good and determine player and he have a god character. he is a spark for bulls and rose we can get melo withouth lossing noah
Every single one that voted that noah leaving the bulls was a goOd move is not really a bulls fan
as everybody knows championship teams are built around matchups. and in this case melo, rose and boozer match up quite nice against lbj, bosh, and wade. and 3 allstars look a lot better than two plus you potential. you no longer have to ask deng to throw up 18 a night and he can become the defending presence he should be. at least this way, you have a chance to get to the big dance!!!
@Dongz23 SERIOUSLY??? Forget the salary caps and all the money problems those teams will have if that happens.. Deng just for Melo, there is just no comparing them both.. Melo is a great player, Deng cannot match him.. Have you seen Melo play or are you just retarded? You said, “They are both SF with shooting as their primary offense WITHOUT LOW POST ABILITY..” SERIOUSLY??? WITHOUT LOW POST ABILITY?? And again, have you seen Melo play?? I mean for someone like you, with a head but NO BRAIN is a huge upset for me..
i agree with you wade the better Boston Big 3 is back meaning they had a terrific summer ready for 1 more run. Anyways
i loved the Chicagp and Boston series before when they still had Capt Kirk and Ben Gordon. So, i think they should wait till Ben’s contract expires or do a sign and trade since hes been a dissapointment in Detroit. Get Gordon back, keep noah and i’ll get my intense series back. Everybody wins
They should trade noah and deng for melo!i dont think noah has a lot of room to improve anymore. what you see now is what you’ll get. he is not that athletic. they definitely need a big man though! If bulls will stick with noah, they’ll never get over the hump coz with east centers with the likes of dwight howard and shaq, noah will be eaten alive every year in the playoffs. at least with melo on the roster, they have a better chance. just trade another piece for a low profile big man who can bang bodies with really big centers. they could go with that big russian center mozgov who played in fiba.
You guys are being ridiculous. Noah is a solid center and that is all he will ever be. He’s never going to become a superstar. Not in this lifetime. Deng is a good player but he is no where near melo’s level. Bulls will most likely have to give up both Noah and Deng. There is no way nuggets would give up melo for a second round draft pick. You can’t find superstars like melo in the second round. You guys are already getting a bargain for melo if you only have to give up deng and noah and you guys want to give them even less than that for one of the BEST in the league?? You bulls fans are hopeless. You guys can keep noah and the bulls will never be able to compete with the best teams in the league for a championship. He’ll either get traded for what he’s worth to another team or he’ll just go to the knicks after his contract and you guys are going to regret not trading for him when you had the chance.
There is no inbetween to this possible trade…Just look at it. ChiTown loses Joakim Noah for Melo who could jump ship and play with Amare next season leaving the Bulls with a big hole at two postions…Center and SF. Thats the worse case scenario.! The best thing is offering Deng, Johnson, and maybe a couple of picks for Melo which wouldnt be as big of a blow if Melo still decided to sign as a free agent with the Knicks. I agree, Noah has the potential to be the second or third best Center in the Eastern Conference and if you keep him and get the best scorer in the league along with the best PG…you have a seemingly unstoppable young core with a deep bench.! But altogether you HAVE to keep Noah or simply pass on Melo.
Rose = 20+ pgg + assist/handles
Brewer = 12+ ppg (solid player)
Deng = 17 Ppg + Defence stopper
Boozer = 18+ Ppg Allstar
Noah = 11-15 Ppg Great defender and hustler
If they do the trade it’ll look like this:
Rose = 20+ pgg + assist/handles
Brewer = 12+ ppg (solid player)
Anthony = 25+ ppg
Boozer = 18+ ppg
Omer Asik = Who the hell is he?
They’ll give up one of the best centres in the east and a decent 17 point scorer in Deng for 8 more points on offense from the small forward position? Most likely will lose Gibson so yeah it’s a total net loss on offense and defense if you really look at it; they’re better off getting Fernandez for some picks.
They’ll even have
If you are a real BULLS fan, I think you know that there is no real benefit from this rumored suggestion. The Buls already have scorers in Boozer, deng and even Rose, I think we all know Rose can step up when he needs to(09 playoffs against the Celtics, probably one of the best sport series ever). Boozer can do his thing on offense and rose can still average 20 points and 10 assists a game without beating himself. And for the defense, no need to question that, the coach will take care of it. So my point is, the only good thing that i can see with Melo joining the Bulls, is a power scorer,I don’t think there’s anyy doubt that Melo is th best scorer in the league, but his help to the Bulls would not be the kind that much of you are speculating. But if the Bulls can make something happen to get Melo without trading Noah or Rose, then I’m all for it. Back in the summer after the whole D-E-C-I-S-I-O-N DRAMA, there was A headline in the Chicago Bulls front page with a picture of Rose and Noah together and the word on the page said, “UNTOUCHABLE.” And that’s exactly what Rose and Noah are.
Sure, the idea of acquiring Carmelo is more than alluring. But it could be a little too soon to talk about trading now. Its similar to chess. We recently bought an additional rook and knight, and now there’s an option of giving up 2 rooks for a queen. Is the additional offense worth the gamble? Or is it safer to keep our pieces and watch how the previously much anticipated team of Rose-Noah-Boozer unfolds. I’d say we keep things the way they are.
Are you serious??? OF COURSE THEY SHOULD DO IT!!!
“And you can take all the fancy metrics that explain how you can survive without him and throw them into the lake. We don’t want to hear that noise around the hideout.”
Why don’t you want to gear this??? Isn’t that part of a debate too??? So what should we take in consideration? Noah is a pretty good player and I really like him so he should stay?
I hate this whole notion that teams should give up only bad players to get superstar players… this is a great opportunity… I’d take the gamble, I’d put my name on the line. There’s no way the Bulls are acquiring a player like Carmelo in the Rose era. However, they can fill Noah’s hole. Boozer is a great rebounder too.
It’s OK guys… the Heat would still get some attention…
i love the idea of having melo in a bulls uniform but i do believe true bulls fans know that making this trade happen with noah isnt going to work. even though we be even more of a threat with melo i think the team would be hurting on the front court side. the bulls have always in my opinion had okay legitimate centers but never a true star at center and thats fine because the bulls always have needed a power forward. noah is the kind of center i like the bulls to have. knowing that he wont back down from anyone and even though he may not be the best player on the team he has great team chemistry and isnt afraid to speak up to anyone who thinks the bulls arent going to be great. he hustles his butt off and knows he doesnt need to score to win games. his aggressiveness and energy is a bother to opposing players and i love that type of player.
if a deal is made without noah then i say the bulls should go for it. if it has to include noah then i dont see it happening unless a third team gets involved and the bulls can pick up another center. other than that i say dont pull the trigger on melo.
Are you high Joakim Noah sucks so bad he is so inconsistent and is just flat out horrible if you want the bulls to have a better chance at a far play off run get rid of that loser and bring in carmelo an experienced player that is still one of the greatest in the game today
I like Noah and Carmelo, but Noah is the Bull’s Big Man in the paint! Yes Carmelo would be a great addition, but who would fill in at Center since Brad Miller is no longer with the team! Its a very important position to have along with a great point guard. Carmelo with Knicks…. not so much, Houston Rockets need him.
Nevermind…celtics roles!!!the revenge is near…..
WHATEVER YOUR PLAN…BOSTON CELTICS RULES, NO TEAM CAN MATCH IF ALL CAST ARE ACTIVE AND HEALTHY….LOUD AND CLEAR ANYWHERE….REVENGE IS NEAR…….
hey, its good for the chicago to have anthony and trade noah.. just sign a defensive player who can back up boozer anytime!!
why you guys bringin’ denver down? melo aint goin anywhere coz he aint like lebron or bosh. he’ll make his franchise at denver. with chauncey and good role player like jr smith who should grow up they’ll be great. all they need is a consistent big man like nene coz k-mart is about to lose it they’ll probably be alright.. plus nuggets is not a bad team. they beat most of the good teams last season like laker and cavs. they just need more size so id rather suggest that noah goes to denver so they add more bigs on their roster.
i suggest that melo must not leave denver. wait for noah’s free agency and sign him. just remove some stupid guys like petro and allen.
I WILL NO LONGER SUPPORT THE BULLS WITHOUT NOAH!!!!!
Deng, Taj for Melo
WOW ARE YOU GUYS CRAZY???????? TRADE WEAK NOAH FOR MELO …. NOAH IS TRASH PLEASE GET MELO
they should offer Deng and a draft pick that should be a descent enough offer..,.
Just try to put it this way, It’s hard to look for a decent center nowadays. Noah might not be as gifted like Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum, but he has helped the Bulls anyway he can, on and off the court. Small forwards can easily be acquired from other teams, and too many good small forwards in the league. And also, try to analyze the roster of the Bulls if ever they acquire Melo for Noah, who will fill in for the center position?
Carmelo Anthony SUCKS! So overated and just an average player.
what noah for melo is a great idea, why not get melo one of the top 5 best players in the nba who is still young, noah is good but no where near as good as melo, melo is a superstar who can be compared to kobe or lebron and noah is certaintly not a player like melo, so people who decided to keep noah and not take melo then i dont know whats wrong with you
Seriously, Noah is VERY important to the Bulls, actually, i think that he is the backbone of the entire team. Just my opinion. And Luol Deng is still a solid player, so stop complaining about his age, if he can average 18 ppg at his age, he is very good.
There is one more aspect. Melo is the last chance for the bulls to sign one of the absolute superstars in this league for years. Bryant, James, Wade, Durant, … everyone has a big contract. Paul is no option because of Rose and so there remains one name on the the elitelist to get sooner then in 5 years: Anthony. Don´t get me wrong, I think Noah is great and really needed, but what if it is not enough? You will always regret, not bringing Melo in. Won´t you?
the bulls don’t need a super star like melo…
i believe that rose,boozer,deng,noah and brewer are good enough to be one of the best contender for the playoffs…
they might not be the best for now but i believe they will improve their game if they will enter the playoffs…
gudluck bulls…
I appologize if this comes out rude but….are u out of your mind? Why would u not take the deal Noah for Anthony? Anthony is a top 5 player in this league for the next 10-12 years…Derrick Rose is a top 5 point guard for the next 10-12 years, and Boozer is a top 10 Power Forward for the next 4-5 years. No offense, but Noah was amazing in the playoffs against a slower shaq and big Z, but lets be real, when Noah came into the league, nobody expected him to be this good, and that is for a reason. Emotional leader….yes, but be real, Noah cant guard Bynum, Howard, Shaq, Duncan, Yao, Stoudamire, Bosh, Bogut, Dirk Nowitski, Pau Gasol….and although im not saying many people can guard these guys,
You at least have a somewhat unguardable big 3 of Anthony, Rose, and Boozer! You trade Deng after and get a young Shot blocker like Ibaka for the Thunder (not nessasarily Ibaka), and you have a team destined to compete for the forseable 10 years. Im sorry, but I would take my chance on a top 5 scorer (which they do not have right now…not even a top 10 scorer the bulls have). I thought the Bulls gave up a great chance to get a star in Mcgrady at 1.5 million, but this is going on Stupid. The Chicago Bulls can get a Jordan-esque in Anthony, and will likely have sold out games until he retires! Noah on the other hand as good as he is, it is not as hard to find a solid replacement at all. Try and replace the 28-30 ppg Anthony would give you….DUHH?? Its a no-brainer.
the probability of trading noah over carmelo is not really 100% , i believe denver will give way and trade anthony for taj, deng and johnson were taj and johnson would become the dynamic duo in denver! i hope denver would give way and it would be a better start for them unlike cleveland who lost their main man without realizing that lebron wants out haha! chicago would be more beast than miami! carmelo vs. lebron , boozer vs bosh, dwayne vs. rose, its obvious that miami wins 3 out 3 but the rest of chicago is better than miami’s remaining players. i hope anthony goes to chicago:)))
I believe Noah is a central piece of Bull’s roster and trading him would be big mistake. Don’t forget he still has great potential and he’s the kind of guy that can average 15 pts / 15 rbds per game in a near future! (All Star potential and I really believe he ‘ll became all star this year).
Above all he is the emotional leader of this team and in playoff ‘s time, we’ll need this guy to change Bull’s players into gladiators! Carmelo in Bulls roster F..K YEAH !!! but not at this price… Bulls will need Noah if they want the title back home!
The group Chicago has is solid and well-balanced, with plenty of scoring and defense to contend as early as this year. Bringing in Melo would upset things, as the Bulls would have to trade at least two starters (probably Noah & Deng).
As for Deng, nobody is really talking about him because he quietly goes about his business like a model professional, rather than making unnecessary noises like many other “star” players. In 8 Eurobasket 2011 qualifying games this summer with Great Britain, Deng averaged 22.6 ppg and 8.3 rpg, good enough for 3rd and 4th respectively in the whole 15-team competition. That included an immense 38 point, 13 rebound, 4 steal effort in a berth-clinching game vs Bosnia & Herzegovina.
The front-line of Deng, Boozer and Noah is relatively young, feisty, athletic and talented- it is arguably the best starting forward group outside Miami & LA. Add Rose running the floor & this Bulls team should go deep into the Play-Offs.
People People People….Boozer was on the Utah Jazz! hE FLOURISHED under a Hall of Fame coach Jerry Sloan, a number 1 or 2 point guard in Derrin Williams, and a extremely deep bench, but they were never legitimate title contenders, where as Anthony lead Denver for years and made them a favourite to knock off the champion lakers. Please keep in mind that Chicago is a fast break team, and by virtue of that, teams choose not to always go after rebounds because they have to get back and stop penetration. Half court offense was one of the worst in the league, and that is because they lost their top scorer Ben Gordon. You cant dump the ball into Noah and expect to draw double teams, and because they lost Heinrich, They only have Kyle Korver as the only natural shooter. That means teams will double down on Boozer, be able to help out on Rose, and the Bulls will always be a first round, maybe second round team at best. Put Anthony, and it becomes a pick your poison type of Matchup… you know, the same dilema Miami, Los Angelas, Orlando, and Boston have created. As much as I like Derrick Rose, he is very soft spoken, and does not appear ready at times to be the Franchise player that people expect him to be…..Carmelo is a proven Franchise player that will open up a pleathora of oppurtunities for his teamates to improve and shine. 1 more time…Anthony for Noah….duuhh
I think this is a great trade for denver I hope they do get rid of ‘melo & send him to chigago, if the nuggets get noah,deng, taj, combined with chauncy & nene, that would make them a force to be reckoned with when it comes to the lakers, melo doesn’t empress me,so i hope chi-town is stupid enough to trade for him, this would be a nugget Gain.
FOR LAKESHOWSOPRO. .
“Melo for Deng is enough to make the trade”
Im sure with what ive said bcoz im an NBA fan and not just a NBA team fan. .
If you say Melo is a special player, why cant he do it in Denver. I mean Denver reached the playoffs and conference finals because of him but never reached the finals then that is not enough. He has a very good team in Denver but just couldnt win for the title. A very respectable point guard on BILLUPS, a good defensive starting shooting guard to match Kobe (but still not enough because the name speaks for itself) on Aflalo, Melo at the small forward, Kenyon Martin at the Power forward (very good in rebounding and shot blocking) and Nene at the C (One of the top ten center in the NBA right now). And a very energetic bench players in the name of SMith, The bird man, Lawson, etc.. .
Just to make the point straight to the fact if youre really an NBA fan you need to see the contribution of a player to a team and not just by looking to their individual statistics. .
And for Melo who doesnt know how to post up? Try to watch his games and tell me how many times in a season when he scores more in the paint than other areas on the floor.
He just dont know how to handle the team in clutch time and plays with a slight effort on defense. Oh dont get me wrong because you would say he does defense when he stole the pass from MIllsap and dunks over him. Thats not enough my friend. . .And oh Millsap, He and Melo have almost the same height but produces differently in the paint.
As a conclusion, Melo for Deng is still enough to make the trade happen. . .
I will give up boozer in a heart beat and put taj in the startin line up melo will pick up the scoring may be top 3 scores in the league
No please give the nuggets a good deal in trading Melo possibly for Deng,James Johnson,Taj Gibson for Melo and a pick but not Noah..D.Rose and Noah along with Boozer will be the core of this young and improving Bulls..Noah may not put impressive numbers like the other big man in the League but he is the other corner stone fot this Bulls team it’s the intagibles that makes Noah special..His intensity, Defense, and all out heart.. What a team then if they’ll acquire Melo.. D.Rose,Korver,Melo,Boozer,Noah..
I’m french so i have a special look on joakim since he’s playing in nba. that would be a VERY big mistake to not keep joakim. Star system is not good trust me. Everybody is not the celtics!!!!!! Sorry for my bad english
I think that Noah should not be a trading piece for Melo. Though Melo is, statistically, better that Noah, Noah has something that Melo doesn’t have, and that is the energy and the heart… Noah brings something into games which a lot of people do not realize. A team needs a good motivator because it can really make a difference on how the team plays. People say that they should trade Noah for Melo but I assure you that in the long run, Chicago would regret trading away a sparkplug like Noah for Melo.
noah is hustle but melo is the bully…we talkin about carmelo anthony people yes he gets frustrated sometimes but he’s only right to be he doesnt get superstar treatment unlike other stars he go against but dont compare defense if you play on a team that shows up sometimes and you know you do then you would want to go noah cant guide lebron nor contain him in any sense of the word or maaek him work hard the only persons who can do that is dwyane wade (his team mate and carmelo) this is not rocket science melo wont go anywhere if the team show they want to win but he wants to win now i would of prefer him to stay in the west to make it to the finals but getting pass miami’s three headed monster that feeds solely on larry obrien’s for me feels impossible a the moment i really want melo cp3 stevee nash and amare to get a ring. another thing noah can oonly do onething very well bring that energy sso can carmelo if his team is in it to win it noah lacks freee throws can’t guard any one but a center slower than he is lets be honest here carmelo is the offensive threat they lack and carmelo is better than durant and kobe at scoringkobe and durant proved they an bee contained (lebron james/dwyane wade) (lakers vs thunder) offensively if yo watch kobe and if a taler defender is on him hes conained but hey just my five cents
There is no way in the world that anyone could make that trade sound appealing. It would be like trading a Benz for a Sentra. Yeah the Sentra is a good car but its value just doesn’t compare to the Benz. Denver would turn into another Cleveland…a team no longer in contention for anything but close to last place. With New GM Denver is definately not looking into rebuilding their entire team, and if so the New GM better had start looking for a new job as well because the rule is if you don’t produce then you have to go. Now if he can somehow get rid Smith, and Martin and attract to allstar caliber replacements during next seasons free agency or even before the trade deadline then maybe he can convince Melo to stay.
The Bulls are now set up well to make an honest effort to dominate the East … We need Noah, we need Taj Gibson and I find it very disturbing that the rumor mill pushes this B.S. Hey John Paxson…WAKE UP You want to peddle the second best re bounder… Mr. Energy Taj Gibsion who has shown that he will be a key dominent player..
As much as emotional Noah is, as much would be leting him go for the fans. There is no warranty of having championschip shot with Noah, or Melo instead. I would not trade Joakim. He’s passionate about winning, feeling good in Chicago and he’s good. Wait for offseason and try add some peaces if passible. Keep Joakim Noah!
Talkin about Melo here, one of the best scores in the game. I love Noah but I think it has to be worth trading him, dont be emotional, its just business,
Could not disagree more with this article more and I am from Chicago. Noah is great at what he does but the simple fact of the matter is its a lot easier to find a big man that can play defense and rebound than it is to find a concencus top 10 player who averages 28 a night. The bulls may not be a championship team with Melo and Taj Gibson at center but they are certainly not a championship team with Ronnie Brewer as your starting 2 guard. This is like the Kobe for Lou Deng deal relived, remember when we didnt want to give up Lou Deng in any deal for Kobe Bryant? Yeah I still have night mares.
IDC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY TOP FAV 5 IS CARMELO, DERRICK ROSE, NOAH, DERRON WILLIAMS, CHRIS BOSH . carmelO is da best but noah neeeds to stay in da chi< so dnt do it he is a hustle player he is a beast inda paint he average a double double by hustlen they dnt even feeeed him inda paint he get offesive rebounds an go up wit it
i think noah should stay on the bulls because he has that great mentality were he’s not scared to make comments concerning other players in the leauge, and other teams. besides derrick rose carlos boozer and noah thats a 3 peat. And lets not for get about luol deng who helped the bulls out plenty of times
u are not closer to a championship with melo and no center like noah
who cares lakers all day
Then, why bother posting?
Bulls fans will have stars in their eyes at this opportunity to get another allstar/player of Carmelos calibur on their team. Fact is though, if they do trade “joke” noah, as I call him, tha leaves them with another lost season.
Heres why.
Shaquille oneal, ken brick perkins, jermaine oneal, dwight deezy howard, ilgauskas, al horford and all players who live in the paint.
Bulls will be severely undersized in the paint and will pay for it come playoff time. Heck, even the reg season will show the importance of some heart/muscle down low.
Bu it matters not, for my team has made some great additions and we will once again prove that the chip belongs in its west coast home.
Lakers 2010-2011 lets get it.
Trading your only decent player taller than 6’8″ to get a player who is only a moderate upgrade on Luol Deng offensively and an actual loss on the defensive end is absolutely, positively retarded.
I’m sorry, but anyone who thinks this trade is a good idea knows absolutely nothing about the game of basketball, and how very essential talented big men are to championship teams.
So, what would be the trade opportunities with the Knicks? Is there a possible deal, that sends Melo to the Big Apple?
Guys please take into consideration that Carlos Boozer is one of the most injury-prone players in the league!! He will not play a full season, and depending on when he gets injured, the Bulls might even miss him for a few games in the playoffs.
The Bulls right now have absolutely nobody who they can rely on come fourth quarter, and that is what seperates them from the “elite” teams in the league!! Also, this whole, “Noah will be a 12/12 or 15/15″ type of player in the future…maybe, but its the same kind of “build for tommorow and f**k today” type of mentality that is causing gm’s to lose their star players in such foul ways! (Lebron, Melo, Bosh, Stoudamire, Boozer, at one point almost Kobe) and the list goes on. At the end of the day, teams dont respect until you earn it….they will not show respect because of potential! Anthony is now and the future…Noah is a solid piece for the future. Whoever says dont trade noah is not a Bulls fan, and although im a devoted Laker fan, the idea of this trade is appealing to even someone like myself who for years only watched 1 team…LAKERS!! Noah for Anthony….DUH
NO to trade noah to melo..
1.chicago needs a frontcourt that will help boozer defend the paint
2.no more 7 footer guys are well as compared to noah(free agent)
3.melo is kinda selfish. he wants to get his same avg for his career.
4.denver would not trade melo only for noah.they might add some players like taj gibson etc.
5.there could might a lack of chemistry bet. melo and rose as compare of years of precious moments to noah.
6.lack of salary cap.
7.something is bothering melo.
8.most of the big men(7 footer) are accident prone but noah is an exception.
9.there would be a star comparison bet. ROSE,MELO,BOOZER, like what happen to cavs last year..MO is like covering the lights upon LBJ,,
10.melo is great but chicago needs someone to make a rebound.that noah.
Noah is like a Haslem, but better. Very rare to have guys stay with one team, i’d like to see that with Noah. then again, he could blow out a knee, or so could Melo….. ya never know.
chicago needs carmelo for strong wing side and shooter but in the fact of getting melo is suicide for trading noa with the package he is good center and young so bulls need a big guy for a defense….
Why not trade Boozer and luol deng for melo?
Starting five would be:
C-Noah, PF-Gibson, SF-Anthony, SG-Brewer, PG-Rose…..
With Boozer’s post offense gone, you put C.Anthony on the post or isolate. T. Gibson can be replaced for a PF who can shoot the midrange or 3pt. Maybe try get Bargnani from the Raptors for some picks and T. Gibson.
Although, I’m not sure if this is possible at all with the finances. What do you guys think?
they should just trade him to the lakers
the lakers would then give the heat a run for their money
gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
noah is a center and carmelo is a forward .he would be a great a addition but we dnt have brad miller so there would not be any good defense.. there are enough expendable players on our team to trade with the nuggets.we need a big man down low to defend these other big guys melo just wouldnt fill that void …
Sorry I keep commenting….this article is great…..
1 More thing for all of those people who think Noah is irreplacable….Ben Wallace is 6’6 and he was rebounding champ, defensive player of the year, and the starting center on the same Pistons team that went to 5 straight conference finals, and won the championship! Oh, and to win the nba title, he guarded Shaq!! So keep telling yourself that “Noah’s intensity” can not be replaced, and I will tell you this….intensity fires your team up, it can fire the fans up, heck it could even fire the whole city of Chicago up….but in all honesty, intensity doesnt put the ball in the basket…Carmelo will. Also intensity will not in the least way rattle the Heat, Champion Lakers, Spurs, Celts….or anybody. They will just see a young, promising Center in JoKim, they will see an aging Boozer (who even at his best will not average more than 23ppg) and a young point guard that as great as he is, he would rather make the plays for others than score the ball himself! Once again, the Bulls build for tommorow mentality will be their major downfall!! John Paxton of all people should know the importance of having a guy who gets doubled and triple teamed! Because if it wasnt for a certain player back in his Chicago playing days, he would not have got a chance to seal the deal against Pheonix, and he would have forever been nameless. Noah for Anthony……DUH!!
if we can land Birdman with melo i say go ahead and let Noah go. Im a big time Bulls fan and I know what Noah brings to the table but in order to compete in a 7 game series with the Heat Melo is a must for Chicago. If The Bulls were to land Melo their roster 1-12 would be better than the Heats roster don’t forget that the Bulls now have Omer Asik who is a force at shot blocking and if we get Birdman we also have Kirk Thomas so we would still have centers to make up for the lost of Noah. I dont think people realize how good Melo is he is a better fit for the team than Lebron would have been because him and Rose are tottally different players unlike Rose and Lebron. JUST DO IT BULLS
trade him into New York! for Galinari and Chandler! problem solved! everybody would be happy!
Guys,
Let’s consider this for a moment. Back when Charles Oakley was with the Knicks, most people I knew at the time were so against trading him for Marcus Camby. These people said that Oak was (as I see many people here saying) the “heart and soul” of the Knicks–mind you, the same thing was said about John Starks right up until Spree started making people forget that Starks was only a one-time All-Star). Yet, when the smoke cleared (and when Camby proved to be a lot more resourceful than most people thought), the Knicks made the Finals in the lockout-shortened season (and almost made that a back-to-back trip to the Finals at that).
Carmelo Anthony has clearly proven himself in the league (and please understand that I’m NOT saying that Joakim Noah hasn’t, by any stretch of the imagination), and by all means would be a tremendous catch for any team in the NBA. Additionally, consider the possibilities that both Joakim Noah and Carmelo Anthony can sustain injuries that might put out of commission for some time. While I do believe that Noah will EVENTUALLY become an All-Star, I would certainly take my chances at developing a NEW “heart and soul” of my team. That said, Derrick Rose is now the engine that runs the vehicle that is the Chicago Bulls. However, an engine is not all that any vehicle needs. I believe that having ‘Melo on the Bulls could take them to heights not seen since the days of Jordan and Pippen–yes I said that!
Finally, there was a time when there was a plethora of great centers in the league all at one time (Ewing, Robinson, Smits, Mourning, Mutombo, Shaq, etc.). As we are all aware, the game has dramatically changed. Gone are the days when great centers were a dime a dozen. Moreover, when did the Chicago Bulls ever need a do-it-all center to win a championship? Yes, I know that (in my Rick Pitino voice) “Phil Jackson, Jordan, and Pippen are not gonna come walkin’ through that door”. However, with having Carmelo, D. Rose, AND Carlos Boozer, it REALLY becomes a “pick your poison” situation.
I know that many of you are saying the Bulls would be idiots for pulling the trigger on a trade that includes Noah, but they would look like geniuses in the end. This includes moving Luol Deng to the bench, which would certainly give any other team’s bench a serious run for their money. In this sense, the choice should be obvious–’Melo to the Bulls all the way!
Best Regards
Demetrios
I Think carmelo is a great player,but i don’t think chicago should give noah up for him, They will need him in order to battle the east power teams we know who they are…. I also think denver should be smart i would not want to trade melo either,but MR. Big Shot C.Billups made two interesting points he said melo is a grown man he will talk to him but not try to force him to stay,but then he also said there is no trade out there worth it,I disagree. Now the fun part that might not every happen i think there should be another 4-5 team trade if melo goes or wants to be traded i should say, the pistons should send tay an rip to denver since they are rebuilding there is no need for them here anymore i still love them an wish them the best. thanks for the years we had. but starting over means starting fresh also we need a big man maybe a PG Also stuckey to me is a SG that would help denver compete if they also get another big man in that trade it would be a win win for all teams involved tryin to rebuild or be one of the elite NBA 2011 that was my shout out. lol to the game .these are just my thoughts make it happen it’s all ready been one hack of a summer for the nba an free agency why not finish. calling all teams GM”S an BOSS it’s Business Make some smart moves as a recovering econmy we want to see different even if u don’t win at that moment we will be happy some is happening. think of it this way same stuff different day.that will not bring us in the money thats so tight to the games unless u give us a reason to spend the cake. until next time
Chicago will need some offence, if they think Carlos Boozer was thier missing piece they are in for a surprise. He’ll collect paychecks and sit in the first row just like he did for the Jazz. I’m telling you Boozer’s heart is not in it unless it’s a contract year. He doesn’t play defense, he get pushed out of the paint, and he sits games out because of hangnails.
wow this is a hard decision…i read someone say that noah is overrated?…no partner he is underrated this is the kinda guy coaches dream about…puts his heart and soul into the game and will do the dirty work if he has to…this guy is a winner…he said he doesn’t want to just make it to the playoffs but win…and he is the only guy in the league who confronted lebron james on his sportsmanship and later even on the city of cleveland and on his “decision” sayin it will be hollywood in maimi…i love this guy and believe he deserved to be an all-star over ?horford? last season…he and rose r the future of the franchise…but passing on carmelo anthony? man idk what i would do carmelo is incredibely incredibley offensively talented…i would choice carmelo over lebronze anytime…that’s just my opinion though i know the world doesn’t agree wit me…i would just take ‘pick ur poison’ offense drivin it, jumpshot, fall away, etc over just cutting and slashing and dunking…:)
I think if it comes down to it, the Nuggets are going to have to make a quick decision, at least before the trade deadline. Let’s face it, the Nuggets won’t make it to the conference finals with or without Melo, I think it would be better for them to trade him early rather than be like Cleveland next summer. If Denver was smart, they would go ahead and set up a trade to either Chicago or New York before the season starts so that way they will at least have some new players to play hard for their team, because you know Melo won’t if he’s unhappy. I think trading him to Chicago would be smarter than New York because New York doesn’t have the right pieces to trade, even though the possibilty of seeing Amare, Melo, and maybe even Chris Paul play together would be insane. I think that Denver should trade Melo and Kenyon Martin to Chicago for Taj Gibson, James Johnson, and some draft picks. I think that would be better for Denver so that they can build toward the future with younger players. And obviously, if Chicago gets Melo and Martin then Miami will have a lot tougher time getting to the finals. Chicago will become an elite team for years to come.
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I THINK GIVING AWAY NOAH FOR MELO IS THE BEST CHOUICE FOR CHICAGO I BEG FOR THAT TO HAPPEN PLEASE MELO COME TO CHICAGO I GAURENTEE U WOULD LOVE IT
Typical US ignorance, you know nothing about the non-us based rookies. Trust me guys Chicago Bulls’s newly added Turkish center Omer Asik will show you that he has more potential than you can imagine. So just trade Noah for Melo and wait for Asik to bulk up for 1 year.
I think New York will get Melo simply because that is where he wants to go it was not a rumor that he wanted to play for the Knicks its true the best trade i see happening for Denver is : Danilo Gallinari & Wilson Chandler with Draft picks and money for Carmelo Anthony because with or without Melo nuggets have to rebuild plain and simple.
I’m from Chicago and am a die hard Bulls fan…….I would love to have Melo here but it’s kind of iffy when it come to trading Noah… Every team need a legitimate big man and thats our big man. Melo would bring alot to the table. But what happens when we play a big team like the lakers where all there big man are 7’0 and taller…. We Noah to compete with them and grab the rebounds. Melo will win many games for us but idk it’s a complicated process these are to very good players….
Just to correct somebody who says Ben Wallace is 6’6″ tall only. Ben Wallace is 6’9″ brother for your information. He just looks small because he is facing all the centers in the league. How come he will be called “BIG BEN” if hes only 6’6″.
In a 7 game series against the Heat…what, the Bulls are gonna throw Noah Boozer and Rose at Dwade, Mike Miller, Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Udonis Haslem, Big Z, Juwan Howard?…….Get real. Make this trade Paxson, You should learn from what the Heat did….Superstars attract superstars.
The Bulls organization is not gonna trade Noah for Carmelo.. Period.. Why would they trade Noah and keep Deng? This would mess up the whole chemistry of the team. All the critics can say what they want but Luol Deng is a All-Star in my book. Its alot of good small fowards in the league and Luol Deng is one oof them. He may not have played to the potential that everyone has been expecting of him, but he does has good numbers and his defense is top notch. If you look at it, he had to do alot of work for the Bulls in the past years and he is just now getting key pieces that’s gonna make him better. How many 6’9 forwards out there can play any position. Deng is the most under-rated player in the league. Sure he’s had some injuries but look at how much work he had to put in on the court, picking up the slack for Kirk Hinrich, Drew Gooden, Eddy Curry, the player that held his own in those years prior to Rose and Noah is Ben Gordon. And he still had to do it all when Gordon was on the bench. But now that the Bulls have Rose, Boozer, Noah, and te best bench in the league under Houston, Deng can focus more on doing his job. I say Forget Carmelo and go with what we got.. I’d keep working on Rudy Fernandez or Sam Young or even Allen Iverson.. I was a little worried about the depth on the center position but looking at Omer Asik during the World Games, I’d say Noah got himself and nice backup along with Kurt Thomas aswell.. The Bulls are ready for action! Just pick up a SG thats more of a scorer and leave it alone.
Joaquim Noah is no Carmelo Anthony = period….If the Bulls is leaning toward trading Noah for Anthony, then Loul Deng is part of the package deal with Noah and another no name player or perhaps a future draft pick. Carmelo is a top 10 to 15 player – a scorer – Olympic Player, and an All Star don’t get traded that easily without a package compensation. You have to weight it by pound for pound. Like Michael Jordan, if he had asked to traded back then with Chicago, what package deal – players would take part of his $alary of around $30 million before retiring (3 to 5 players).
no one knows what joakim noah can do yet and hes still averaged almost 13 RPG in 26 minutes so who knows what he can do in 36 minutes?
I cannot believe that Chicago isn’t throwing Noah out the door for Melo. Would they pass on Lebron for him? What about Kobe? Wade? Durant? Then there’s no way they should pass on Anthony to keep a sinlge member of that team.
People can go on about how a team has to be a cohesive unit or how intangible aspects like emotional leadership factor into play, but the truth is, a player of Melo’s caliber is can be the difference by himself, he can close games on nights where the team is behind late, he can carry the load himself sometimes when he’s needed.
melo is much better than noah and we all know that.. noah is the voice of the chicago…consider this.. well MELO is the heart and soul of the denver nuggets… if melo will be traded to the bulls for me it is better that noah would stay so they can have a center instead involve another player or option in replace of him and with these team adding melo who can stop the bulls in winning the championship?? its like the bulls of michael jordan was been revived..
Noah is a great defender but this team will need somebody to score in the crunch somebody unstoppable” Carmelo” if not who will
take this team to the next level? Rose lol… he still has a lot to learn and hes probably the go to guy to score, hell force too many shots. booz will be solid, dang ok. Who’s the go to guy?