The Big Influential?

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Posted by Sekou Smith

HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS — We could spend a week collecting, dissecting and analyzing all the nicknames for Shaquille O’Neal now that he’s officially a member of the Boston Celtics.

The Big Shamrock.

The Big Chowda.

The Big Leprechaun.

The Big Green Monster.

And one of our personal faves, The Big Cloverfield (courtesy of HT reader Jesse Giambatista, who explains that the alias is a “collaboration between an Irish 4 leaf clover and the movie of the same name with the ginormous space/sea creature.)

The list could go on and on, and we’re warming up to Red AuerShaq and Tip-In O’Neal. But we’ll offer up something a little different after doing a little research on the big fella. How about the Big Influential? … as in Shaq is far and away the most influential basketball player on the planet (in terms of his reach on social networking platforms) and one of the most influential athletes in any discipline.

He, and not LeBron James, is the King of Twitter, with more than 3 million followers, roughly a million more than the NBA.

That’s not just us talking. The folks at Fast Company have already worked the angle with Shaq, he’s participating in their Influence Project, exploring his Shaqprint for social media world domination in this Q&A with Mark Borden:

FC: I recently asked Twitter founder Jack Dorsey who he thought is using the platform in the most effective way, he mentioned you. He told me two things in particular. One was where you gave away game tickets to the first two people to meet you at a given place and touch you? That’s a pretty intimate thing, what made you take it to that extreme? Why was touching better than “hello”?

SHAQ: Ah… Mr. Dorsey. That is funny, and true…. I was on the Phoenix Suns then. Again, I try to do things differently than others. Not intentionally trying to be different, but truly to invite people to break down expectations. I am approachable. I guess that was what I was trying to do.

FC: Dorsey also mentioned how someone had tweeted that they thought they were in the same restaurant as you, you saw it and invited them to lunch. What made you do that?

SHAQ: Accessibility. That would be pretty rude of me to be in the same restaurant and not offer them to join me (this doesn’t mean I am always in the position to do this). It struck me that moment basically, so I invited them. They were cool, they were fans. Again, not really above any of it. Appreciated that they even care. Make it fun for someone. Make their day one to remember. I do not think about those things when I do them, but here we are talking about it now. That makes me feel good.

FC: Your bio says you’re “very quotatious” and there are times when I can feel an almost rap rhythm to your tweets. I know you have skills with a microphone, do you try to channel that flow in your Twittering?

SHAQ: I am a Quotatious genius! I add Shaquotes into everything. (Smile)

The Celtics didn’t get the “Most Dominant Ever” Shaq. They didn’t get the 15-time All-Star, three-time Finals MVP or the All-Star Game MVP Shaq, the guy that once teamed with the likes of Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade to win titles.

But they knew they weren’t getting those versions of Shaq him when they signed him to that two-year deal Wednesday. They’re getting a player that’s past his prime in a league he once owned on the floor, a league that he is still a major shareholder in off the floor.

What the Celtics did get, however, is arguably the greatest salesman the league has known, in terms of appealing to the masses — hanging with and singing with Justin Bieber introduces Shaq to a whole new and even younger audience. You don’t have to like Shaq’s personality or the way he has approached his career as a basketball player/entertainer.

Just know that there are millions of folks that do.

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99 Comments

  1. Jake says:

    I think his new nickname should be “The Big Mass” as in Massachusetts. I think it’s gonna stick.

  2. Sam says:

    Gotta be “Jolly Green Giant.”

  3. Shaq has been the best big in the NBA and as he gets older he has shown us that though his athelitc ability isnt what it use to be he still can play this game at an high level. Now the he is in boston I think they lucked up so I would call Shaq THE BIG CLOVER

  4. adriel says:

    the shaq lick!! haha

  5. Airness says:

    @unikr0n

    “i very much dislike jordan and i grew up in the early 90s watching bulls on their way to their 6 rings”. – Your statement clearly pictured out you’re a disheartened basketball fan whose favored team was always badly beaten by MJ everytime they met. You know just move on and enjoy basketball anew. You just hate the REAL GOAT that’s why you said untruthful things.

    Lots had been said and everyone made a point. But those who have broad vision and perception knew who’s the GOAT. If Kobe still wins rings from his current numbers. Kobe can’t still be the GOAT. There are a lot (I said a lot) of criterias Kobe can’t surpass of what MJ had. It’s beyond reach anymore. Plus an asterisk on Kobe’s 1st three. Here I go again. SORRY.

    You! Kobe fellas should be happy enough that your idol is compared to MJ. But putting Kobe ahead of MJ you really have to think twice or even consider shutting your ideas OFF!

    @K_Michel

    You’re doing a great respect to your idol. It’s clear to me your mind and vision are not clouded with egos but with great and admirable perception not like the other pretending fans. Glad to know there’s still a fan left like you.

  6. K_Michel says:

    HEy SEKOU, How about “THE BIG SHRAQ” ??

  7. Lakers-have-it says:

    your on crack

  8. Big three says:

    BTW.. Everyone is going crazy (and “insecure”) about Miami’s off season moves,and everyone is just thinking and talking about how they match up with LA, the Celtics and the Magic. But please don’t be surprised if there 2 dark horses face each other in the finals this year. The Chicago Bulls versus the Dallas Mavericks. If Boozer and Chandler will remain healthy for these 2 respective teams and no one from their core (esp.m Derrick Rose and Nowitzki) gets injured for the rest of the season, please ve ready to get the most surprising upset in NBA FInals match-up next season.

    Come on, comment and contradict all you want, but come finals this season, you would all remember that I was the first one who predicted it. Just wait and see how these 2 teams everyone is just ranking as just a good contender this pre-season be the last 2 teams to battle it out to become this year’s champions.

  9. Big three says:

    We all criticize Lebron’s “lack of competitive spirit” becuase some think he joined Bosh and Wade instead of wainting to beat those guys…. Funny! coz if it were only the Heat and Raptors, LBJ has proven he can beat them. Remember his crazy shootout with Wade on the 2007 season both men got 40 plus points and the Cavs prevailed. And how about that game against the raptors where the Cavs are down 12 with 4 plus minutes and James got pissed off with the trash talking of Bosh’s GF and went crazy by scoring 17 in the last few minutes to beat the raptors (He even taunted Bosh’s GF by trying to hand her the ball at the end of the game). You see, other stars trying to carry a team bring out the best from LBJ, but the problem is it’s different when you are facing teams beefed up with 3 to 4 star players surrounded by perfect role players in the playoff. NO ONE CRITICIZED GARNETT and ALLEN forleaving there team’s orphan and without a champoionship to form the big three in ’08 just to win their 1st championship rings… NO ONE CRITICIZED PAU GASOL, the only marquee player of the grizzlies uniform to join Kobe and Bynum. Same goes for Lamar Odom and Artest. Jordan, Bird and Magic Johnson’s era is different from the trend of beefed up powerhouse teams today. No one man, even with the leadersgip skills of Jordan or Duncan iuf they are only surropuinded by a bunch of good role plyers stands a chance against Boston and LA right now. This is the harsh reality that forced the creation of the three headed snake in MIAMI.

  10. John M says:

    Top Ten Overall Players in The NBA to Most Likely Win a championship This Upcoming Season.

    1.) Kobe Bryant (Finals MVP Last Season, also the Best in the Game right Now)

    2.) LeBron James (Last Season’s MVP and the Most Gifted Player in the NBA)

    3.) Dwight Howard ( The Best Big Man In The Game )

    4.) Dwyane Wade ( He’s a good scorer, great talent and has plenty Heart )

    5.) Crish Bosh ( Would put Dirk 5th but Bosh Grabbed More Boards than Dirk last Season and Has a better supporting cast)

    6.) Dirk Nowitizki (Still one of the Best Shooters in the League and the Face Of Dallas with a Decent supporting Cast)

    7.) Rajon Rondo (Celtics behind him, and last post-season was the man in Boston)

    8.) Steve Nash (No doubt Nash is a better point guard than Rondo, but his supporting cast isnt like the Celtics)

    9.) Tim Duncan (Older but still has a Contendor team in the West, Dispite the spring cleaning from PHX last season)

    10.) Derek Rose ( Bulls have a good team now, and Rose has a better supporting cast to contend in the east)

    Sorry Carmelo, You are one of the top Five players in the NBA but the Nuggets arent strong enough to get past other teams in the West, never mind the East.. As proven the past years.

    Sorry Shaq, theres younger talent now in days.

    • dylano says:

      Bosh IS the supporting cast 😉

      I would switch Duncan and Nash with Roy and Durant. Imo, both the Thunder and Blazers can contend for a Championship.

  11. Jake says:

    that dance contest is classic. Shaq putting the young guns in their place. I think Shaq should be an honoree addition to every all-star game as long as he’s still playing.

  12. AIRBORNE says:

    The bottom line is, noone ( i repeat NOONE) really knows the best team until the season kicks off and the finals.

  13. caliluv says:

    Let’s stop with the MJ vs KOBE stuff. Kobe is the man of his generation ….. going for his 6th ring. Sure he got them with Shaq but averaging 22, 25, 28, 30, 27 & 25 ppg during the title years means that Kobe was just as effective as Shaq. All the awards given out by the league are media driven awards and the media don’t like Kobe. That’s why when he was scoring 35 ppg a game or 81 pts. or 62 pts in 3 qtrs. he only got 1 MVP vote. The only stat that matters when Jordan’s name is mentioned is rings and Kobe has them, wants more and will get more.

  14. Arnolj says:

    In my opinion I think that the lakers are the best team they have won 2 championships in a row thats very hard to do especially since they were going against the celtics their very good players!

  15. 80y4n youre right nobody can touch jordan but dont discredit Kobe, the man has played thru pain for years that would make some players drop out of the olympics. David lee ring a bell. Kobe is tough or gutsy in many senses far from wusville like yours truly. whats more Consider yourself an nba idiot for all intensive purposes for alluding to KOBE as a wus . About the hand check rules KOBE wouldnt have had the injury if players werent intentionally hacking at him injuring him in the process.you might as well slap yourself & jump off a cliff with a comment like that.get ready to watch Kobe splash another championship in your face. He is a champion with as strong a character that any1 will ever display on the basketball court!!!! the end.

  16. 80y4n youre right nobody can touch jordan but dont discredit Kobe, the man has played thru pain for years that would make some players drop out of the olympics. David lee ring a bell. Kobe is tough or gutsy in many senses far from wusville like yours truly. whats more Consider yourself an nba idiot for all intensive purposes for alluding to KOBE as a wus . About the hand check ruls KOBE wouldnt have had the injury if players werent intentionally hacking at him injuring him in the process.you might as well slap yourself & jump off a cliff with a comment like that.get ready to watch Kobe splash another championship in your face. He is a champion with as strong a character that any1 will ever display on the basketball court anywhere.

  17. CELTICLADY says:

    I like THE BIG SHAQROCK. or maybe the BIG CHOWDA

  18. i agree with you there.. Cleveland should form their own big three.. (Iverson,McGrady amd O’Neal)
    then clash with the Lakers during the finals.. =)
    impossible..

  19. John M says:

    Shaq the Green Hulk, sounds and looks like O’Neil. Glen Davis is still Baby Shaq Shrek.

    Celtics without a doubt filled up a whole they needed to fill, He is not in his prime but he defintley brings his Physique,Veteranship, and probably the same motivation with him to Boston that he had leaving to Miami from LA. Which helps to an already Experineced-Wise Celtics roster.

    Doc as Coach, you know he going to play Hulk right, unlike Mike Brown and The Suns Coach. Rondo feeding Him down low for easy buckets is defintley a THREAT to any TEAM.. NO MATTER WHAT HIS AGE IS. He never had the assists in Clevland and PHX was just to fast for him. Pick N rolls would be fun to see with KG or Shaq with Rondo,Allen or Pierce. Good Place to go should have done after the Suns when some Cap space cleared up after the Big Three came.

    Miami has a good team with players with playoff experience but have no Chemistry besides The Olympic Trio. I think it would be a good way to open the season, to see eachs teams weakness and how really age affects a Game.

    Remember, There is gonna be about 400 years total combined out there. With Shaq, Pierce,KG, Ray Juwan Howard,Big Z out there.. Wont be surprised if Alonzo suits up for the game to even the age on each team.

    Here’s the thing above all.. Celtics is the Eastern Champs, there still the team to beat in the East. How they pulled the upset in Clevland and took three in a row on the Magic.. Who will ever know? But with the reconstrcuted Miami Squad, Orlando, Chicago, Atlanta, and Clevland… CLEVLAND? Well cross them out now but with those other teams around. It’s gonna be tough out East, yet again this year. Feel sorry for Amare’s decision should have stopped being greedy for money and stayed with PHX and maybe would have some help with Turk or Childress in the Roster to give LA a run again.

    THE NBA IS GONNA BE GREAT TO WATCH ,THIS UPCOMING SEASON.. I have never been so anticapted to have the season start. Its a NEW DAY in the LEAGUE, exactly what it needs after the same teams been winning for the past ten years. Lakers and Spurs count for 7 ouf 10? Would have never thought the East would pick up the way it did after the West holding it down throught the 2000’s.

  20. dylano says:

    The Big St. Shaqrick!!!

  21. SHAQ is still the best, maybe not in terms of skills but in terms of personality. Nobody’s perfect but he is well loved around the globe, even here in the Philippines. Mabuhay SHAQ (Long live SHAQ) from the Philregalo Family

  22. Iwan fm Sydney- a heat fan of course says:

    happy to see shaq still has minutes in the NBA hardwood floor, now with the celtics.. cant wait to watch the season all the way fm Oz here down under. I would like to see this 3peat so called story(because their the defending back 2 back champion atm rite? so they’re the top dawg on the western) that the lakers are trying to pull against all new eastern contenders lining up for a piece of their own SHIP stories, I have been a 2003 draft class fan- now feat 3 tops lads (LBJ CB4, FLASH) playing in one team i am a fan since Glen Rice days. HEATS all the way!!!…

  23. Mamatheregoesthatman! says:

    This for the Kobe haters!(aGe Tha Artist) ———-Look, Kobe has back to back Rings God Damnit! With players nobody even heard of. Sahsa, Gasol, Brown, Mbenga, Farmar (maybe UCLA), Bynum, ……Artest, Fisher the only other stars. A low skilled and average team, but united they became great. They are the champs. 2yrs straight. Kobe has to be the difference maker and in my opinion the best player in the game right now, by far. Best and with 5 rings to prove it. 7 times in the finals is an amazing work ethic. Coach Phil is amazing too. Since MJ people have called many others the next one, Penny, Hill, Lebron,Tmac, Wade, U name it! But only Kobe has reached that kind of purity and piled on the rings. Remember Lebron isnt a rookie he’s been here since 2003 and aint got *hit to show!

    Like Rondo said he aint worried about the Heat only the Lakers. As far as people crying about the Refs, not one Celtic player is complaining they know we snatched that Championship right out there hand. Remember Kobe and Paul are taking a break this off season not like last year. Fresh legs, watch out u Laker haterz, “Mama there goes that man!”

  24. 80y4n says:

    @unikron Please, dont compare Jordan to Kobe, they are beyond comparison, first off, MJ left the league in his prime, took 2 year break and came to be the best for the next 3 years in a row.
    He didnt go to knicks or rockets or orlando for that matter to side with the best when he came back, he went to his old team to play against knicks, pistons, rockets and others.
    Bulls were a mediocre team, during those two Jordanless seasons as he was their leader, alfa and omega.
    I understand that Jordan had helpers, but he never had any great big man, unlike any other championship team in history, remember how good was Kobe when Shaq left the LA? Thats right he didnt even reach playoff, and it was like that for two more years, until Gasol came to the town and turned it all around. Dont take this the wrong way i like Kobe and Lakers, but like i said MJ was that good even with crappy big man on the roster especially in that era, when you had dominant centers , that you cant compare this Kobe with him and this league with no hand check and all new rules for wusses. 🙂
    So basically what i am trying to say Jordan among many other things was appreciated for was winning 6 NBA titles without a dominant center or power forward, in a league where Big men were rulers, unlike the NBA of today, which is owned by combo guards all trying to be like Jordan, and in that league we have a 38 year old man who can still easily be a starter for 27 out of 30 teams and be able to contribute alot 🙂

  25. KB8 says:

    The Heat are going home in the second round. The Lakers are going to take the Celtics in 6. Kobe is going to kick sand in Shaqs’ giant vag*na.

  26. Chris Ross says:

    This I think is a low risk signing for the Celtics considering their window of opportunity right now is very small. This might be the last chance they have, although I guess we thought this last year. But the fact of the matter is that they need a big man now that Kendrick Perkins is going to be out for so long and there aren’t very many quality ones out there. Shaq can be good but at this point in his career he just can’t get too many touches. All in all I think it is a shrewd signing but I guess we’ll find out this season. In didn’t work in Cleveland but who knows.

    http://chrisross91.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/shaq-to-the-celtics-sure-why-not/

  27. Karlton says:

    To the guy who said Lebron was a better basketball speciman than Jordan and Bird combined, he was completely right. Now I am not saying he is a “better” player than those two combined, but he is physically much more gifted than Jordan and Bird combined and everyone knows that. He is way bigger and stronger than Michael Jordan ever was, and he is also much faster (ran a 4.4 in football 40). Now granted Bird and Jordan are better players, Lebron is the better speciman. But F all that, My celtics just got the big S, we are going back to the championship and this time with a healthy Kendrick Perkins by the time the finals start, we will win the NBA title like we were supposed to. We didn’t have enough big men last year when KP got hurt, those rebounds are going to be ours this time with big Shaq…and he will teach KP some moves with the ball too. This is going to be crazy!

  28. D Potts says:

    I have one question where will the great shaq jersey retire. which team does anyone know.

    • good game says:

      Lakers for sure will retire it, he won 3 titles for them after all, but who knows maybe Miami and/or Orlando will too, he won for now the only title for Miami and was to only Fonals for Orlando.

  29. Lakers-have-it says:

    Although im a die-hard Lakers fan, I wont deny…this Boston Roster is rediculous! This Roster is as stacked as my Lakers. (Stacked meaning, its not about the talent you have, but its the way you fill every position with a capable replacement.) Look at this….Kendrick and Kevin then sub Shaq and Jermaine…and depending the matchups…Glen Davis…thats an unbelievable amount of size and Talent…and im sorry, but even the high-flyers of Wade and James would dread having to drive the lane against Boston or Lakers..then having to chase Ray, guard Rondo, deal with Kevin, and try and use fouls against shaq?? im sorry but realistically speaking…Celtics cause as much mismatch and problems as Lebron Wade and Bosh would…so next year I see a rematch of Lakers and Celts….and for the guy who said Kobes a winer and not a winner…your a hater and dont respect greatness. We have witnessed the guaranteed second (if not first) best basketball player of all-time “Kobe”. He is after Michael and so we say there will never be another michael jordan, but before Jordan there were many palyers that same quote was said about..then Jordan changed that..and now Kobe changed that. With the additions of teams and talent in the leaugue…I believe its harder to win now then it was then…but because very few Gm’s have the basketball intelligence as higher powers like the Lakers, Celts, Magic etc…we have few teams chasing titles each year…. but guys like Sam Presti in Okc, or Bulls, Riley with Heat, Otis with the Magic etc…are coming up big for their ball-clubs, and I expect alot of teams to be rising soon…..but until then….LETS GO LAKERS!! SIX FOR KOBE!!

  30. Los Angeles Lakers and Miami Heat Fan says:

    The Giant Green Man!

  31. lavalle holman says:

    How about Shaq and the GreenStalk.

  32. think says:

    @ Elxsound

    that’s the problem dude… why not consider duncan to be amongst the greatest players?

    the spurs was build around him, he didnt need a superstar teammate (david robinson was in the twilight of his career, manu was a 2nd round pick and even started at the bench, parker was just a young rookie)… he’s lead his team to win 4 rings after the MJ era (more than the KOBE-SHAQ tandem), has been consistent throughout his career (even with old age and injuries slowing him down, the Spurs are still very dangerous during postseason and HE is the reason why)… and arguably HE is the BEST power forward to play the game

    now why he isnt included with the great ones? here’s why… because he plays fundamental (boring) basketball, not much endorsements because he doesnt have the flair or the highlight moves, he doesn’t play for big markets like LA or NY, the Lebron-whippin’ Finals match was the least-watched series…

    NOW THERE’S THE PROBLEM… here’s a guy who just plays the game right and wins… but the focus now is on personality, flair, “superstardom”, endorsements and being “the man”.

    This is basketball dude, people who knows how to play it wins. If you want to be entertained and have larger-than-life personalities… i recommend the WWE for you bro.

  33. lavalle holman says:

    How about Shaq and the Green Stalk!

  34. c-money 85 says:

    1st off – Kobe is the most hated guy in the NBA Y because he keeps ehoopin ass and takin names . Y because he is not open to the public, that he can care less about the popularity ALL he cares about is winning SHIPS and being the best at what he does. Kobe hands down has 2x as much talent/skill/and drive than the 2nd best player in the league.

    Kobe keep doing ur thing get that 3-peat and let all these haterz make xcuses
    KOBE is the MJ of this era so guys learn to appreciate greatness cuz u guys idol like LBJ just prooved he doesn’t have the heart of a champion them guys down n miami will win ships but not for a couple of years . Lakers are gnna 3 -peat and if Phil stays could be the first to 4 peat

  35. PUNISHER says:

    No one is against lebron for leaving his hometown in pursuit of his dream ring, but rather they are agaisnt his unprofessional actions. Like taking part in manipulating the sytem just to be with 2 other big star in one team.
    And announcing to the whole world where he will gonna play the next few years without even informing his
    former boss(from cleveland) leaving cleveland out of nowhere. Let me ask you, what would you feel if someone you thought is a member of your family and a very dear one to you, leave you in a middle of a desert. would you not feel the same? Do you understand now?

  36. Mike says:

    imagine how rediculous this Boston roster would have sounded 8 years ago with the likes of KG, Pierce, ray allen, Jermaine O’neal, and Shaq. To little to late I suppose.

  37. Christopher Christou says:

    New Nickname: ShaqZilla cause of the Green uniforms

  38. The ghost of Red Auerbach says:

    @Matthew Walsh

    Dude, do you realize Shaq never “left” LA, Miami or Phoenix – he was traded each time, so he didn’t exactly “pick a contender” as you say. The only team he left was Orlando, for which he was criticized (and still is), but at least he did it to be like Wilt and Kareem and continue the line of “Dominant Centers of Their Decades”.

    ‘Bron at the other side, left the best regular season team (that accidentally was his hometown team) to chase supermodels in Miami with his buddies.

    • RJLA says:

      Shaq demanded a trade from LA because he was a “BIG FAT CRY BABY”. Jerry Buss gave into his demand because he knew that the Lakers would never win another title with Shaq on the team.

  39. kobron says:

    Shaq new nickname should be INCREDIBLE HULK because he is green & a monster
    anyway if shaq changes team it doesn’t matter because he is past his prime but back then when shaq went from magic to lakers he did get blame.

  40. Lakers are champs! says:

    Wow! The Lakers just won a back to back title in a 7 game series against a great Boston team. And yet you have people who claim with a straight face that the REFS did it for them!!!! It sounds to me like you’re the winers and complainers, not Kobe!!!! Why don’t you give the champions a little credit. I have no respect for what you say! And, by the way, Bynum was injured through the entire series. Maybe the refs helped him along too!

  41. The ghost of Red Auerbach says:

    I loved Shaq when he was a young player in Orlando shattering boards and introducing the 90’s to the NBA. Then he went to that team that doesn’t deserve to be named and I had to, well, suspend my fandom. I never forgave him until now (teaming up with ‘Bron certainly didn’t help), but all is forgiven now. Except for the nicknames. Would you all stop that please. The man has a nickname – Shaq. That’s just about all he needs.

    • RJLA says:

      Shaq was NOBODY until he came to LA.

      • good game says:

        LOL dude, his transfer in 1996 was maybe bigger thing than LBJ’s this summer! He was force of nature from 1st moment he came to NBA! He was in finals with Orlando 1995, and if there wasnt for that dude with number 23 in Bulls jersey he maybe would won title year after he was in finals!!!

      • think says:

        wow hahaha

        shaq led orlando to the finals, and they are the ONLY team that can say they have beaten MJ in his prime (though MJ was in baseball form lol)…

  42. aGe Tha Artist says:

    Look.. point blank.. shaq is shaq.. he never left one team and said hey .. let me call up tim duncan and vince carter and lets make this work.. the teams he went to.. first was miami right?? only had wade… nxt team was who?? The suns?? by this time shaq wasnt shaq anymore… he wasnt even half the player he once was.. and going to a fast pace team wasnt even in his style of play… Shaq didnt reach out to houston to play with ming and tmac… which wouldve been epic and things probably wouldve turned out different… Wade lebron and bosh on the same team in their prime?? come on now.. now ure limited to watching certain teams becuz three of the best players are on one team.. not only that. wheres ur competitive spirit?? wheres ur morals and values?? that make u say i wanna beat these dudes and not join them?? Lebron took the ez way out.. that to me in my eyes.. isnt earning a championship… i lost respect for all three of them… i am a basketball player… and i dont even choose the best players on the court in a pickup game.. i love the competition… thats what SEPARATES GREAT PLAYERS AND PLAYERS WHO HAS GREAT TALENT! LEbron has great talent.. but no heart.. Mike Had Great talent and heart.. which made him a great player… u win with ur heart.. not talent!

    And to Ola .. Miami isnt winning this yr.. They will b put out by the celtics.. KOBE AND COMPANY FIRST AND FOREMOST DONT DESERVE THE LAST TITLE the way that series went .. it looked fixed to me.. first three games the big three were all in foul trouble.. thats takin the rhythm from them.. kobe traveled hacked double dribbled his way to the title ..and cried more than a newborn my dude… like he cant win without refs.. AT ALL! ure forgetting the celtics have rondo.. ray .. pierce KG and Jermaine oneal.. the bench … Tiny Nate.. Shaq! BIG BABY AND PERKINS!!! i dont like kobe .. i cant stand the man.. and its not that im hating.. i just figure someone with so much damn talent .. who cries sooooo much takes away from his game.. the greats like reggie miller.. bird.. magic mike.. USED TO GET BEATEN DOWN!!! i never saw any of them cry the way kobe does… and i even had a laker fan CALLED ME UP AND ADMITTED TO THE REFS FAVORING LA!!!! Miami needs chemistry… before u just throw them a championship… i dont believe theyll win this yr.. but the upcoming yrs.. yes i do .. and thats if u dont put Carmello Anthony on my home team The Bulls!!!!! lol =).. hes a free agent nxt yr! with all this said.. celtics have just as good of a chance to win the title as the lakers do.. and both lakers and celtics have a better chance winnin over miami…

    • unikr0n says:

      check the games. mike was also a cry baby. he was about to cry himself to sleep intil pippen came along. and in this day and age. every player carries the ball in the nba. i’m so sick of everyone on mike’s nuts. get off of them, you damn sickos! 🙂

      it’s funny because people don’t think about about how mike had nobody to compare too in his prime. everyone talks about how mike having better stats. well kobe ain’t done yet and he’s already on his way to his 6th ring and he’s just now turning 31. i believe jordan was 35 when he got his 6th ring. also, you take jordan in his prime and you take kobe in his prime. kobe would run him off the floor. kobe’s finessed moves are insane and jordan doesn’t stand a chance offensively. now defensively, yes, i give it to jordan and we all know thats what wins championships. if kobe just focused on his defense, he would be completely unstoppable! screw jordan. he’s almost wearing diapers again. i very much dislike jordan and i grew up in the early 90s watching the bulls on thier way to thier 6 rings.

      • uoykcuf says:

        Man, you should watch MJ before the first retirement. When you compared their age, did you forget MJ went to play baseball(took a yr off, lost to orlando and comeback killing everyone) Or did you forget MJ has literally no help when he arrived in Chicago? Ok, maybe Woolridge. Kobe had O’neal, Jones, van exel, fish, Ceballos and Horry at his rookie season!!! I can assure you a prime MJ would killed Kobe! MJ has no rival at his prime? Let’s see, Thomas, dumas, Clyde, Dominique?? I don’t know much about fixed games but I do know kobe shot like 6/22 in the final game and won MVP? Still think he’s better than MJ?

      • unikron is a genious says:

        yup… pippen came as a rookie… even traded to chicago on draft day… is that the all-star player youve been comparing when kobe got gasol?

        maybe on a one-on-one game kobe has a chance against MJ… but in the TEAM perspective, kobe has nothing compared to MJ… 2010 LA against 1996 Bulls would be a mismatch…

      • Airness says:

        @unikr0n

        “i very much dislike jordan and i grew up in the early 90s watching bulls on their way to their 6 rings”. – Your statement clearly pictured out you’re a disheartened basketball fan whose favored team was always badly beaten by MJ everytime they met. You know just move on and enjoy basketball anew. You just hate the REAL GOAT that’s why you said untruthful things.

        Lots had been said and everyone made a point. But those who have broad vision and perception knew who’s the GOAT. If Kobe still wins rings from his current numbers. Kobe can’t still be the GOAT. There are criterias Kobe can’t surpass of what MJ had. It’s beyond reach anymore. Plus an asterisk on Kobe’s 1st three. Here I go again. SORRY.

        You! Kobe fellas, you should be happy enough that your idol is compared to MJ. But putting Kobe ahead of MJ. You really have to think twice or even considered shutting your ideas OFF!

    • old school says:

      You must be another young buck. SHAQ WENT TO MIAMI FIRST? REALLY? YOU MEAN THOSE 1ST 5 SEASONS(’92-’97) WITH ORLANDO DIDN’T COUNT? WHEN HE WAS PLAYING WITH 2 PERRENIAL ALL-STARS PENNY HARDAWAY AND HORACE GRANT AND CAME UP SHORT EVERY YEAR? REALLY? Please know your basketball history before you make comments. It simply makes you sound ignorant.

    • good game says:

      You are wrong dude, Shaq’s 1st team was Orlando and after 4 years and no rings (1 NBA final) he left to LA. His case is so so similar to LBJ’s, but I suport both of scenarios!!!

      If Shaq didnt left from Orlando to join LA he maybe would have 3 rings less, and you realize that means 3 less for Kobe too!!!

      Dont be hypocrite to justify Shaq and than criticize LBJ for doing the exactly the same thing!!!

      • K_Michel says:

        good point “AIrness”…im a huge kobe fan and i think it is a honor to see Kobe beeing compared to jordan all the time,,,
        I mean no one can deny similarities in their game, in their physical attributes, height, weight, etc…
        it is right there…and kobe is the second greates of all time…dat is good enough.

        @ uoykcuf:
        I dont know the games exactly, but Jordan had bad final games too….just like kobe…
        But he was the mvp for the whole finals, not just the last game. and even in his last game, besides his shooting, his defense was tight, rebounding off the cahrts…he did it all.

  43. think says:

    @ matthew walsh

    actually, malone left to try and to get a ring in LA, but they met the Pistons in the finals… Clyde did get his ring playing with Hakeem in Houston…

    on the topic, shaq did get a lot of heat leaving Orlando to join LA before. But LA is a well-loved team around the globe that once he’s winning rings, people tend to have forgotten that fact (except for orlando ). but anyways, i guess it isnt just about LBJ leaving cleveland, its how he left them. the hate from cleveland is understandable (but Gilbert’s reaction was crossing the line). maybe its also because of the narcissistic-prime-time announcement that added fuel to the fire (consider being dumped on prime-time TV haha).

    I guess there was undue pressure on LBJ since he came, that he’d be put in the same stratosphere as MJ, Magic, Bird, Shaq and Duncan. With these individuals, teams are built around them, and through their leadership (or mere presence), their teammates evolved and thus having the rings. Though a lot may disagree, but Kobe and Wade’s abilities are unleashed because there was shaq drawing all the defenses. TP and Manu (a second round pick) developed and fitted well in a team around duncan. Bird helped Parish and McHale… Magic the whole LA with his play… and MJ with pippen, grant, paxson, kerr etc. (though kukoc, rodman and harper with acquisitions, they were the to fit the team built with MJ as anchor, not to be his all-star teammates).

    I guess its more of a disappointment, rather than anger, that people are criticizing LBJ. Everyone knew he is a better basketball specimen than MJ, Magic or Bird (combined!). But hey, it’s still about winning championships. he can join the club with Kobe (was with shaq, then needed pau), KG (w/ Pierce and Allen) and the others who may have superior skills, but just dont have it to have a team built around them.

    People are just disappointed they havent “witnessed” anything.

    • Elxsound says:

      Duncan is a great player, but how did he end up in the same sentence as MJ, Magic, Bird and Shaq??? Really?

      • erivas says:

        Duncan was/is a franchise player me has gotten more people rings than jordan thats why he’s there

      • think says:

        that’s the problem dude… why not consider duncan to be amongst the greatest players?

        the spurs was build around him, he didnt need a superstar teammate (david robinson was in the twilight of his career, manu was a 2nd round pick and even started at the bench, parker was just a young rookie)… he’s lead his team to win 4 rings after the MJ era (more than the KOBE-SHAQ tandem), has been consistent throughout his career (even with old age and injuries slowing him down, the Spurs are still very dangerous during postseason and HE is the reason why)… and arguably HE is the BEST power forward to play the game

        now why he isnt included with the great ones? here’s why… because he plays fundamental (boring) basketball, not much endorsements because he doesnt have the flair or the highlight moves, he doesn’t play for big markets like LA or NY, the Lebron-whippin’ Finals match was the least-watched series…

        NOW THERE’S THE PROBLEM… here’s a guy who just plays the game right and wins… but the focus now is on personality, flair, “superstardom”, endorsements and being “the man”.

        This is basketball dude, people who knows how to play it wins. If you want to be entertained and have larger-than-life personalities… i recommend the WWE for you bro.

      • good game says:

        I very often see questions like this and here is part of the answer:
        4 times NBA champ
        3 times finals MVP
        2 times regular season MVP
        every single year voted in NBA best team (13 times)
        every single year voted in NBA best defensive team (13 times)
        every single year All-Star
        1 All-Star MVP
        Rookie of the year

        All this is done by Duncan, in my opinion Tim is top 10 player of all time! “Problem” with Tim is that he dosen’t play too attractive basketball, he is not big media figure, but dude is arguable the best PF of all time no doubt abut that!

      • uoykcuf says:

        Duncan? won more rings than jordan? Please go back to school.

      • Elxsound says:

        @think, I didn’t say he wasn’t great, but I did ask why he was included in the same sentence as MJ, Magic, Bird and even Shaq. There’s a big difference between Duncan and all of them. Duncan is great because he’s reliable, but he doesn’t dominate and doesn’t take over games like any of those players IN THEIR PRIME. And since you mentioned it… That lone championship with David Robinson was during the lockout, when almost every player returned to their teams out of shape. Phil Jackson argued correctly that their championship year should include an asterisk next to it.

      • think says:

        @uoykcuf

        i said… “4 rings after MJ era”, that means he won his rings after MJ retired… nobody said about TD winning more rings than MJ… you have a problem with comprehension bro, i think you should be good at that after the 2nd grade…

        @Elxsound

        Still, why not include TD in the same sentence after all these accomplishments? He did dominate during his time, although not the shaq-type of domination pummeling everyone who tries to guard him. Duncan’s style was different, if you have at least watched one Spurs game, youd see how effective his movements were… he can shoot jumpers using the board, drive through the lane, pass to open teammates… he’s a better defender than shaq, and a dominant rebounder also. The thing is, his moves are not top10 material, but does will his team to win during his prime through his effeciency and sad to say boringness.

        A season is a season. 50 regular season games could still put you in shape come the playoffs where teams square-off with the top contenders. San Antonio won its way to the top. If less than 81 games isnt enough, then lets discredit all leagues and games such as the olympics and the world basketball competition?

    • uoykcuf says:

      LOL, I am replying to erivas’s “Duncan was/is a franchise player me has gotten more people rings than jordan thats why he’s there.”

  44. Tdott says:

    i wanted shaq , iverson and t-mac to make there own big three in cleveland . .. that would of been somthing to watch BLAST FROM THE PAST

    • good game says:

      Hehe I agree that would be fun, not that I think they would had big chance to win title, but still would be blast to watch 🙂

    • basketball :D VC,LBJ,WILT says:

      yh i wanted to see that another ‘big three’ (sort of) it would have been fun

  45. Greg says:

    Bill Walton played late in his career here. Is Shaq the first star that played with both the Lakers and Celtics? I like the move for him. Boston’s depth will mean fresh legs in June. Doc and Ainge prove why they lasted in the league so long as players; high basketball IQ and tenacity.

    • RJLA says:

      Future Hall of Famer Gary Payton played in LA then got traded to the C’s after Shaq left.

      • DragonLord55 says:

        anyone remember Rick Fox aka Celtics prior single season steals record holder until this year when Rondo broke it. Played in L.A. rest of his career. I think. if anyone knows how long he played in L.A.

  46. Elxsound says:

    Moving to the Celtics is the best move for him.

    Miami or LA would move too fast for Shaq, so being on a veteran team that plays solid half court defense and offense is the best way for Shaq to go out on top.

    Miami has a lot to prove and first of which is proving they can get along even when the all don’t have 20 and 10 nights. Boston is past that already and they simply want to win a championship.

    Again…. for the Big Shamrock, this is the best choice (but damn, Miami will be fun to watch as long as Bosh buys into the system).

  47. Steven says:

    Dang look how much bigger Shaq is than Dwight Howard that is almost comical!

  48. Ceddy Ced says:

    It would be nice to see him get a ring with the C’s. On top of it all it would be nice to see a player of his caliber obtain rings with 2 teams that are one of sports biggest rivalries….WHATEVER though!! the BEAAAAAAAN stand up! Its my hometown!

  49. Matthew Walsh says:

    Sekou what do you think?

  50. Nikos says:

    Matthew Walsh, I completely agree with you!

  51. Olu says:

    Seems kinda SAD to see Shaq go to the Celtics, I like Shaq but what does it say about him that Miami and LA are not options for him to end his carreer? both Miami and LA have a better (maybe slightly better but still better!) chance of winning. Any thoughts?

    • Olu says:

      and it’s certainly nothing to do with the $ because he signed for $1.5m/ year! somebody please help me make sense of this!

      • Matthew Walsh says:

        Miami he wasnt working anymore after they won, and LA he and kobe had issues, and the Lakers made the right choice. But that is exactly my point. Why hasnt Shaq picked a spot to stay and finish with dignity and loyalty? Im now realizing that he has been used by teams as a trade option because he will always hold value, I just wanted to comment on why i disagree with Lebron being looked at as a villain, because Wade could have left for chicago, and you cant say he would have stayed if Bosh and Lebron didnt help him make that decision. And everyone seems to completely excuse Bosh for leaving because he most likely wasnt going to win a ship in TO. Players move these days and go to dinner and are all friends most of the time. Ask Larry Bird if he was “buddys” with Magic during the season. Dont think so.

    • LAKERS says:

      LA has a much better chance of winning the title this year than either Boston or Miami. Especially miami!!

  52. Matthew Walsh says:

    It is good to see Shaq move to the celtics, because if he resigned with the cavs, it really wouldnt serve any purpose and people wouldnt even get to see him play that much this season because lets be honest, cavs games probably wont be the most popular any more outside of Cleveland, unless they are playing the heat. So on that note, im glad im able to see the Big Diesel playing for a team that will challenge for the title, and give the fans of the nba in general something to look forward to. However, why is everyone so quick to criticize Lebron James and not Shaq for moving around… because he didn’t play for his hometown crowd? Granted, Shaq is in the end of his career, but how many teams has he played for since leaving LA? All in the persuit of playing for a contender, Shaq has signed for a Club and then left because he thought he could win elsewhere. In my opinion, Shaq’s persuit of his 5th ring is exactly the same as Lebron joining forces in Miami, and at the same time, different in the fact that he’s already won four championships, and should have less reason to keep switching teams. Is Shaq immune to criticism just because he is older, likeable, and past his glory days? Maybe, because Im not judging him for it. Im only pointing out that committing to a franchise in the nba these days seems to be of less importance than winning championships, than it once was. And we as fans need to realize that. Stockton, Malone, Reggie, Sir Charles, Clyde the Glyde… All no championships because they stuck with their teams, and with their cities. If one is going to criticize Lebron for leaving, then one has to criticize the idea of star players leaving the franchise when they depend on them. Im a Raptors fan, and as hard as it is to support my team when players keep leaving for championships, it perplexes me to see that nobody ever has anything to say about Shaq except for what new nicknames would be catchy… anyone remember win a ring for the king? Well it didn’t work, oh well, on to my next chance of winning another title. Now maybe its a little harsh considering Miami and Pheonix maybe didnt want or need him anymore, and Clevland NEEDED Lebron, badly. But there is still something to be said for reasons to criticize a players decision to leave, and IF he should have stayed or not. Lebron NEEDS to win championships, thats it. And I dont care how much of a force he is, i dont think a Cleveland with Lebron could have stopped the Celtics, Magic or Bulls this coming year. But now im ranting and it looks like this might be a good point to wrap it up, just something ive been thinking of while ive been sitting in class the last couple days. Please tell me im not alone.

    • think says:

      actually, malone left to try and to get a ring in LA, but they met the Pistons in the finals… Clyde did get his ring playing with Hakeem in Houston…

      on the topic, shaq did get a lot of heat leaving Orlando to join LA before. But LA is a well-loved team around the globe that once he’s winning rings, people tend to have forgotten that fact (except for orlando 🙂 ). but anyways, i guess it isnt just about LBJ leaving cleveland, its how he left them. the hate from cleveland is understandable (but Gilbert’s reaction was crossing the line). maybe its also because of the narcissistic-prime-time announcement that added fuel to the fire (consider being dumped on prime-time TV haha).

      I guess there was undue pressure on LBJ since he came, that he’d be put in the same stratosphere as MJ, Magic, Bird, Shaq and Duncan. With these individuals, teams are built around them, and through their leadership (or mere presence), their teammates evolved and thus having the rings. Though a lot may disagree, but Kobe and Wade’s abilities are unleashed because there was shaq drawing all the defenses. TP and Manu (a second round pick) developed and fitted well in a team around duncan. Bird helped Parish and McHale… Magic the whole LA with his play… and MJ with pippen, grant, paxson, kerr etc. (though kukoc, rodman and harper with acquisitions, they were the to fit the team built with MJ as anchor, not to be his all-star teammates).

      I guess its more of a disappointment, rather than anger, that people are criticizing LBJ. Everyone knew he is a better basketball specimen than MJ, Magic or Bird (combined!). But hey, it’s still about winning championships. he can join the club with Kobe (was with shaq, then needed pau), KG (w/ Pierce and Allen) and the others who may have superior skills, but just dont have it to have a team built around them.

      People are just disappointed they havent “witnessed” anything.

      • aGe Tha Artist says:

        better basketball speciman than mike magic and bird combined?? are u smoking?? lmmfao!!! boy … mike had almost a 40 point game Season! tha man was unconscious he played until the last whistle was blown.. Lebron gets frustrated and gives up too easy ..his level of skill isnt better than mike.. hes just bigger… mike played with his head and heart and then it was talent.. lebron doesnt do any of that… he just rely purely on talent… and that would get u nowhere…

      • good game says:

        Man I am LBJ fan, but dude if you ever saw MJ in his prime (before 1st retirement) Im sure you wouldnt say this. He was like 10 time quicker than James, just perfect body, really mate MJ in his prime was closest thing to basketball perfection, if not even matched!

      • James says:

        OMF!!! Better than MJ, better than Bird, Magic??!!!! You are sadly misinformed my friend….or you are too young to have “witnessed” their feats….have you ever seen the (now famous) clip of Bird reading the bounce, getting his own rebound (with opposite hand)?? And “the steal” and pass to DJ that stole the series from the Pistons in the late 80’s?? Like any good fan of the game, I strongly suggest learning the history before you diss it (else you show your age and youthful exhuberance). Enjoy the trip to the archives – I highly recommend it (you owe it to yourself if you want to call yourself a real basketball fan).

      • Jake says:

        Think, I think you made a very insightful comment. On LeBron being better than Bird, Magic, and MJ combined, I’m assuming that you’re talking about physical aspects alone (if not then you’re wrong). Even that’s debateable though because I think MJ has kind of the ideal basketball player body (like Kobe).

      • think says:

        Dudes…

        I hope you’d be understanding the statement first before commenting, it just shows you dont really understand what you read…

        “a better basketball specimen” means he’s better physically. MJ may be quicker, Bird may be a better shooter, and Magic had better court vision, but with the combination of size, quickness, strength, length and agility of Lebron, he has better overall basketball physique and potential than these guys. Although we know there are other traits a player must have like IQ, will, leadership etc., to become great players… but I’d still say LBJ has the most lethal combination physically…

        now i hope you understand…

    • Candid says:

      For the one millionth time, it is not the fact that Lebron left Cleveland, it is the way he left people are upset about. Every player has a right to switch teams in pursuit of a championship, money or anything else but, I think Lebron could have done so under more dignified circumstances.

      • Double Jay says:

        It really doesn’t matter Candid. Whatever way he did it he was going to be critisized. Clevelanders are just crybabies. You think if the “Decision” had just been a footnote on Sports Center that it would have been any different. NOOO. Clevelanders would have just found something else to bitch about. The guy gave you 7 good yrs. Get over it. Even though I would have rather seen him stay and finish what he started he is entitled to do what he likes….

    • LAKERS says:

      At least Shaq won 3 rings for LA before he went running to another team. Lequeen couldnt do that.

      • old school says:

        And exactly how many rings did Shaq win before leaving Orlando? 0 RINGS. You must be to young to remember he left Orlando and people had similar reactions(except for the whole narcassisstic interview). And Moses Malone left Houston to play with another top 5 player by the name of Dr. J with the 76ers and there both top 50 hall of famers. When ‘bron wins a couple all these comments will be forgotten and the people that existed in this historical period will be forgotten too(LMAO). But he’ll be top 50 right next to Moses Malone.

      • good game says:

        But he won zero for Orlando before jumped to LA!

    • Deron says:

      Matthew,

      The Lebron and Shaq situations were different. LA let Shaq go and didnt want to resign. There is nothing wrong with what Shaq or Lebron did, to be honest by what Lebron did, it made other teams in the east also try to stack their teams up. The Eastern Conference playoffs will be exciting this year